Ok everyone, take my advice, and stick it to the man, never fucking buy an HP anything again. My hp 3820 didn't last through the first set on ink cartrages. HP offered to do nothing but sell me a new printer, I said fuck you, im telling everyone I know to never buy HP again. I wouldn't have been so pissed if they would have just admited a design flaw, but they denied it and said tuff shit. So i'm trying to get an anti-hp grassroots movement going.