I also like frugal or austere but stoic would be my choice
Virtueous, depending on decadence's usage.
things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
so, he does
the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
-- WW2 for the l33t
personally i find virteous to close to decadence but still aplicable
Thank you all for your contributions and time in dealing with this decadent semantic problem
I would hereby like to conclude the most precise winners are
Stoic : Seeming unaffected by pleasure or pain; impassive
Ascetic :Pertaining to or characteristic of an ascetic or the practice of rigorous self-discipline
Spartan : Resolute in the face of pain or danger or adversity
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on a side note
Decadent : Paris Hilton
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Last edited by 100%; 12-13-2004 at 02:31 AM.
I most certainly do not seek to complicate the problem; I merely acknowledge that, while your admittedly elegant antonym suits fairly well, it is not perhaps as perfect as another might be, and so the problem remains, you see?Originally Posted by manker
For example:
I find ascetic(-ism, in proper and equivalent form) to be reasonably accurate, but lacking the elegance of your stoicism, which, BTW, has always been a favorite of mine, antonymal propriety as re: decadence notwithstanding.
I am loathe to argue with Webster or Roget, in any case.
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-Mark Twain
Ironically the word decadence is decadent initself as it has an excessive choice of vauge antonyms yet has no sense of responsibilty to anti-define itself
According to Microsoft Word it's "decency", maybe not perfect but nicely poetic: Decadence and Decency.
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You actually seem to be agreeing with my assertion there, rather than your initial condemnation.Originally Posted by j2k4
My point was that we should find the most common meaning of the word decadent and find an antonym to that given it would be the most fitting antonym due to it's popularity.
Previous to my post there had been all sorts of antonyms bandied about for definitions of decandent which haven't been used since the 1700s, no doubt
I am willing to chat about the validity of my claim of the most common use of decadent, or that there may be a better antonym to this than stoic.
I feel that my method as to us finding the most fitting antonym is beyond question, however.
Why. They clearly have not facilitated matters for us in this case.Originally Posted by j2k4
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By God, you're arguing with me...Originally Posted by manker
Someday your resistance to my having you on will be sufficient, Manker.
In the meantime, it occurs to me that JPaul is absolutely correct, and I am chastened thus-
Are you, too?
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
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