Torture doesn't just happen from our side. Both parties do it. Remember that.
Torture doesn't just happen from our side. Both parties do it. Remember that.
Well that doesn't mean we shouldn't punish those that did it on our side.Originally Posted by Samurai
We can only set examples that we wish for others to follow. Whether the Iraqi soldiers get their just deserts for torturing our soldiers is neither here nor there when we're dealing with our own crimes.
@manker..agreed. Here is something else to check out:
American Justice?
Disturbing pictures appear to show an Iraqi man arrested and then executed by U.S. troops
If you have information relating to these images, please forward it to [email protected]
Oh I didn't say they should get away with it... far from it.Originally Posted by manker
It's just that these pictures are quick to surface after it's happened, whereas I'm more concerned with those times when no pictures were taken if you know what I mean.
As I said before, it's not only America, UK etc that have done these things. Every country in the world has used torture at some point in history. And that includes Iraq
Hmm. It's now that I'm concerned about though. Again it is wholly irrelevant what's gone on in the past.Originally Posted by Samurai
I do appreciate that you're trying to present the big picture, particularly to those who attempt to paint our soldiers blacker than they really are. That's fair enough. I mean it's not as if you're justifying or attempting to make the crimes appear any less heinous, right?
@ Ruthie, I can't really see why that appears as if those soldiers have executed the man on the ground. They could be different Iraqis in the pics for one thing and the time lapse between the photos is not given, anything could have happened.
The soldiers are people too, I'd prefer to give the ones in the pictures the benefit of the doubt - I'm not pretending unwarrated executions didn't happen, but that pic proves nothing.
this is true..posted it for interest sake. As you saw, he asked if anyone had info about it.
Remember: they could have avoided all this if they just would have turned over their weapons of mass-destruction.
Serves them right.
What are you talking about.Originally Posted by Sid Hartha
Even if your point had some merit, which it doesn't, then it was Saddam who refused to comply with UN mandates, not his soldiers. To say it serves them right to get tortured and smeared with their own excrement because of what their leader did is absolutely abhorrent.
As an aside, I don't know if you heard but there weren't any WMD in Iraq. We looked, couldn't find any.
That's right. I've said it was absolutely disgusting what happened (at the time) and I still believ thatOriginally Posted by manker
Originally Posted by Sid Hartha
words fail me
on the subject.
When we treat anyone like this we cease to be soldiers, we cease to be liberators, we cease to be civilised humans.
this goes for WHOEVER does it, be they Iraqi, American, British or any other nation.... This point has no racial side.
To say that someone else does it is simply removing any defense for ones actions.
All concerned should be punished.
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