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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    The people don't vote on whether we go to war, their elected officials do.

    Republic.
    Heh, cheers Busy - Guess that was what I was trying to say about no democracies

    Democracy's the dream. Republic's the reality.

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    Ok lets change the words Bush and Macain etc. used


    Are democratic countries less likely to attack other countries..... same reasonings apply
    Last edited by vidcc; 03-02-2005 at 08:05 PM.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminati
    Heh, cheers Busy - Guess that was what I was trying to say about no democracies

    Democracy's the dream. Republic's the reality.
    I feel kinda bad because I initially didn't read your post before I posted.

    I end up saying essentially the same thing.

    Our elected leaders go about their decision making without our approval. We vote for the leader but not the decisions they make.

    I, for example, did not have a vote on whether my taxes would be raised.

    Washington D.C. residents can't even elect a congressman ffs.
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    I live in what is by name a monarchy, tho' it's most often referred to as, and works more like, a democracy.

    But repooblics are in a sense democracies too, although the people are a further step removed from power I think.

    As long as there are elections it's still a democracy by some definitions.
    Last edited by Snee; 03-02-2005 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Ok lets change the words Bush and Macaine etc. used


    Are democratic countries less likely to attack other countries..... same reasonings apply
    Yes since there are no democratic countries that I know of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SnnY
    I live in what is by name a monarchy, tho' it's most often referred to as, and works more like, a democracy.

    But repooblics are in a sense democracies too, although the people are a further step removed from power I think.

    As long as there are elections it's still a democracy by some definitions.
    Are you in Europe? I didn't know there were any monarchies left there.

    Republics have elected officials by democratic process. The decisions by those elceted officials are not up to the people unless a referendum is made, which is rare.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Yes since there are no democratic countries that I know of.
    Eddie izzard had a line that suits your above comment.

    MCCAIN: I mean, let‘s show a little progress.

    I guess what I‘m saying, the root cause of terrorism is societies where there‘s inequality, depravation, socioeconomic, etcetera, and a lack of hope and belief in the future.

    I think the way we win the war on terrorism is that if you get democracies in these countries—democracies don‘t attack other countries, you know that, generally speaking.
    source

    so you are saying that the statement is true because no democratic nations exist?
    Last edited by vidcc; 03-02-2005 at 08:15 PM.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    I feel kinda bad because I initially didn't read your post before I posted.
    Busyman feeling bad? Don't ever do that again - It doesn't suit ya

    (And besides, you said it better than I did - I was on a trip at the time, philosophical & chemical )

    I live in what is by name a monarchy, tho' it's most often referred to as, and works more like, a democracy.

    But repooblics are in a sense democracies too, although the people are a further step removed from power I think.
    UK, yah? Britain's only a monarchy in title - The government has the power which we elect, ergo if we dropped the title we'd be calling ourselves a republic as well as acting like one

    Then again, I'd most likely prefer having a technocracy instead so listen to me as your own risk
    Last edited by Illuminati; 03-02-2005 at 08:17 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Eddie izzard had a line that suits your above comment.

    source

    so you are saying that the statement is true because no democratic nations exist?
    Ok then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminati
    Busyman feeling bad? Don't ever do that again - It doesn't suit ya
    Well I try to read every one's post before I post to eliminate "piggybacking" too much. I read vid's initial post and immediately replied and further might skipped yours because it looked lengthy instead reading for substance. I used to do the same with posts from Biggles and j2k4.

    It's also why I don't read many fictional novels......spend all that time for what might be a good book.

    There are many here that like to get their word in when in fact they have said nothing new or remotely profound. Maybe I did offer something new to what you said.

    I hope so and thank you.
    Last edited by Busyman; 03-02-2005 at 08:22 PM.
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