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    Quote Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234
    Quote Originally Posted by lynx
    The AMD Athlon64 X2 is more equivalent to Intel's 840EE chip, the price of which is astronomical (well over $1000).

    The AMD Athlon64 X2 4200+ is effectively a 3500+ with a second core while the Intel Pentium D 840 is effectively a P4 3.2GHz with a second core, and the 3500+ eats the P4 3.2GHz.

    At the moment, Intel can't even make a chip to compete with AMD's top end dual core processors.

    Pass the cheese.

    AMD!
    make that 2 helpings of cheese

    AMD all the way

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    Quote Originally Posted by Djtima

    How do you like that AMD Cheese Munchers?
    Just fine, thanks.
    Since AMD has superior memory bus architecture (the Opterons were designed for dual-core from the beginning) AND has stated that the current 939 platform will accept the upcoming chips, I feel downright comfy.

    While YOU are out buying a whole new system (priced DDR2 RAM lately?), I shall be leisurely contemplating which dual core AMD I might want to slot into my current rig.

    Pass the Brie, please.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Djtima
    How do you like that AMD Cheese Munchers?
    Dual core cheese for you!


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    Hate to be the bearer of bad news (I use a P4 myself), but there is a disadvantage to Intel's dual-cores:

    Intel quietly adds DRM to new chips

    Microsoft and the entertainment industry's holy grail of controlling copyright through the motherboard has moved a step closer with Intel Corp. now embedding digital rights management within in its latest dual-core processor Pentium D and accompanying 945 chipset.

    Officially launched worldwide on the May 26, the new offerings come DRM-enabled and will, at least in theory, allow copyright holders to prevent unauthorized copying and distribution of copyrighted materials from the motherboard rather than through the operating system as is currently the case.

    While Intel steered clear of mentioning the new DRM technology at its Australian launch of the new products, Intel's Australian technical manager Graham Tucker publicly confirmed Microsoft-flavored DRM technology will be a feature of Pentium D and 945.

    "[The] 945g [chipset] supports DRM, it helps implement Microsoft's DRM ... but it supports DRM looking forward," Tucker said, adding the DRM technology would not be able to be applied retrospectively to media or files that did not interoperate with the new technology.

    However, Tucker ducked questions regarding technical details of how embedded DRM would work saying it was not in the interests of his company to spell out how the technology in the interests of security.

    The situation presents an interesting dilemma for IT security managers as they may now be beholden to hardware-embedded security over which they have little say, information or control.

    Conversely, Intel is heavily promoting what it calls "active management technology" (AMT) in the new chips as a major plus for system administrators and enterprise IT. Understood to be a sub-operating system residing in the chip's firmware, AMT will allow administrators to both monitor or control individual machines independent of an operating system.

    Additionally, AMT also features what Intel calls "IDE redirection" which will allow administrators to remotely enable, disable or format or configure individual drives and reload operating systems and software from remote locations, again independent of operating systems. Both AMT and IDE control are enabled by a new network interface controller.

    "We all know our [operating system] friends don't crash that often, but it does happen," Tucker said.

    Intel's reticence to speak publicly about what lies under the hood of its latest firmware technology has also prompted calls to come clean from IT security experts, including Queensland University of Technology's assistant dean for strategy and innovation, IT faculty, Bill Caelli.

    "It's a dual use technology. It's got uses and misuses. Intel has to answer what guarantees it is prepared to give that home users are safe from hackers. Not maybes, guarantees".

    Caelli said it was "critical Intel comes clean" about how the current DRM technology is embedded into the new CPU and chipset offering.

    Microsoft was unavailable for comment at press time.
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    I think Intel has already lauched thier next gen chips....
    and planted one in djtima's brain

    hey could you guys pass the american cheese?
    wanna make me some nachos

    or....nacho cheese.....or.....nvm
    Last edited by FKDUP74; 05-29-2005 at 01:39 PM.

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    You make nachos with American cheese?

    Philistine.
    "I am the one who knocks."- Heisenberg

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    There's story here on the DRM enable chips.

    http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915

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    Quote Originally Posted by peat moss
    There's story here on the DRM enable chips.

    http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915
    Actually, that's the source I quoted above


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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminati
    Quote Originally Posted by peat moss
    There's story here on the DRM enable chips.

    http://www.digitmag.co.uk/news/index.cfm?NewsID=4915
    Actually, that's the source I quoted above


    Oh sorry I did nt see that . Great minds think alike. But anyway what are they thinking ? Their brain dead if they think that will sell. Its like your post about the Sony cd software protection that limits cdr copies . Oh well someone will figure a way around it .
    Last edited by peat moss; 05-30-2005 at 11:55 PM.

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    ok AMDs numbering scheme is wierd...4200 is now a 2.2Ghz...thats like wierd...it should be like 23500 for a dual core 2.2ghz or something
    [SIZE=1]AMD 4200 X2 @ 2.65Ghz, ASRock 939-VSTA
    1.75GB PC3200, 2 X 160GB Seagate w/ 8MB Buffer
    HIS Radeon X800 Pro, Antec Super Lanboy Aluminum

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