9800 SE install question...

[Smith]

I have never heard of a 4800ti. Although i kinda fell behind in the computer parts stuff a few months ago

[lynx]

OK, I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. I have a 4800ti, not a 6800ti.

Ah, that a tad different (no whale pictures this time - far too small).

The GF4 ti series (with the 4800 at the top) effectively came to an end when they were outclassed by the 9700 Pro. But then again a 9700 Pro is almost twice as fast as a 9800SE.

I bet the ti4800 could still give an unmodified 9800SE a pretty good run for its money, but of course it isn't DX9 compatible, which is a big downfall when it omes to playing the latest games.

BTW, I was right about the possible mods - software upgrade to 8 pipelines is a possibility on some cards. However, some boards are have a 256bit memory bus and these are the only ones which can be modded.

If your board has the memory chips layed out in the format shown in your photo (ie 2 across the top and 2 down the side) then you have the 9700 Pro PCB and you are ok for the modification. If you've got all 4 memory chips in a row then you have the 9500 Pro PCB and you are out of luck.

[Skiz]

Ah, that a tad different (no whale pictures this time - far too small).

The GF4 ti series (with the 4800 at the top) effectively came to an end when they were outclassed by the 9700 Pro. But then again a 9700 Pro is almost twice as fast as a 9800SE.

I bet the ti4800 could still give an unmodified 9800SE a pretty good run for its money, but of course it isn't DX9 compatible, which is a big downfall when it omes to playing the latest games.

BTW, I was right about the possible mods - software upgrade to 8 pipelines is a possibility on some cards. However, some boards are have a 256bit memory bus and these are the only ones which can be modded.

If your board has the memory chips layed out in the format shown in your photo (ie 2 across the top and 2 down the side) then you have the 9700 Pro PCB and you are ok for the modification. If you've got all 4 memory chips in a row then you have the 9500 Pro PCB and you are out of luck.

OK, I got the new card up and running. The only real game I play on any regular basis is Call of Duty:UO. With the new card, I am able to set any and all graphics settings to the max, as where before, I was only able to turn them up about 75%. I have overclocked the core about 25 points and I'll leave it there. The memory clock I'll get to later, and I'll turn that up until I begin seeing artifacts and then I'll turn it down about 10 points.

I did try opening the other four pipelines in order to turn the card into a 9800 Pro, but I get a bunch of artifacts, so I think one of the pipelines is screwed. Any thoughts on that?

Thanks for all the help so far btw.

[S!X]

When you open pipelines you can fuck up your video card If your getting artifacting, the cards too hot, so lower the overclock job you did a little bit.

[clocker]

If your getting artifacting, the cards too hot, so lower the overclock job you did a little bit.

Not necessarily.
Refer back to Lynx's explanation of why the pipelines were disabled in the first place...t'wasn't because they ran too hot.

[lynx]

On the other hand, with the extra pipelines enabled it will be doing almost twice as much work, so it will definitely get a lot hotter.

Another thing is that the reason for pipeline "failure" can simply be that it can't operate at the designed speed. If that's the case, enabling the extra pipelines but underclocking could well make it stable, and it would still outperform an unmodded SE.

As you can see, I've done quite a lot of research on this, despite the fact that I will almost certainly never buy a 9800SE. The things we do when it is too hot to sleep.

[Skiz]

The things we do when it is too hot to sleep.

Turn on the AC...?