9800 SE install question...

[Skiz]

Which model shuttle do you have, exactly?

I have a Shuttle XPC

[lynx]

I'm intrigued though, why downgrade from a 6800 to a 9800SE?

[Snee]

Which model shuttle do you have, exactly?

I have a Shuttle XPC

I had a look, and the layout appears to be the same as in mine. _

Your PSU is situated to the right of the case, seen from the front, and if my machine is anything to go by, you might a have a problem reaching the edge of the graphics card with a cable, although it's possible that you can pull a cable underneath the drive bay directly to the card from the psu and make that work.

I solved it by adding an extension cable, myself.

[Skiz]

I'm intrigued though, why downgrade from a 6800 to a 9800SE?

LP told me it was better...

[Snee]

He may be a tad wrong

Lets just put it this way, It owns that card you have now 1000x over.

WRT that quote, this is tad:


I can't actually find a ti version of the 6800 now, but assuming that's the right gpu series, even a crippled 6800 should be a bit better than a 9800SE, I think.

Sorry 'bout that.

[Skiz]

Can't the 9800 be opened up to a 256 card though?

[lynx]

I've heard it is possible to mod some cards to enable more pipelines, but I don't remember the SE being one of them (though I could be wrong). Even if you can, you need to remember why those pipelines were disabled - it is because they could not meet the specifications, but rather than just destroy the chips they put them into cards with fewer pipelines. So if you find a way to re-enable the pipelines, you run the risk of having faults in the displayed output.

In any case, remember that ATI's main competition for the 6800 series is the X800 series, so it is doubtful whether anything less than the top end of the 9800 series is going to match the performance of the 6800, and since the SE is bottom of the range, even a modified one still won't give anywhere near top end performance.

[Skiz]

Well that just plain sucks.

[Snee]

I've heard it is possible to mod some cards to enable more pipelines, but I don't remember the SE being one of them (though I could be wrong). Even if you can, you need to remember why those pipelines were disabled - it is because they could not meet the specifications, but rather than just destroy the chips they put them into cards with fewer pipelines. So if you find a way to re-enable the pipelines, you run the risk of having faults in the displayed output.

In any case, remember that ATI's main competition for the 6800 series is the X800 series, so it is doubtful whether anything less than the top end of the 9800 series is going to match the performance of the 6800, and since the SE is bottom of the range, even a modified one still won't give anywhere near top end performance.

A 9800XT does about 1-1.5k less points than a 6600GT with the same amount of VRAM, in 3d mark -05 for me.

And a regular 6800 is supposed to be almost as good or slightly better than the 6600GT

Sorry Skizo

[Skiz]

OK, I don't know what the hell is wrong with me. I have a 4800ti, not a 6800ti.