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    I would like to rant and rave about it then....but I am going to have to look at this bill myself before I take that leap. Do you have a link to it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Under this bill a head start school administered by the city cannot discriminated against a person of faith, yet one administered by a religious group can discriminate against a person of different or no faith. Remember, both are funded by the tax payer.
    Oh.

    You mean this bill specifically says, "Forthwith, pursuant to the standards set forth in this document, publically-funded educational institutions may, upon determining the religious faith of any applicant for employment in said institution may regard this information as disqualifying, depending only upon the whims of the hiring authority"?

    Give it a rest, vid-it only means the subject is not closed to discussion-perhaps the aim is to specifically give oral notification to a fundamentalist Muslim applicant that any hint of Islamic instruction or propaganda in the classroom will not be tolerated and may be grounds for dismissal?

    Without such legislation, such subjects cannot be broached for fear of a lawsuit.

    Sounds pretty common-sensical to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Under this bill a head start school administered by the city cannot discriminated against a person of faith, yet one administered by a religious group can discriminate against a person of different or no faith. Remember, both are funded by the tax payer.
    Oh.

    You mean this bill specifically says, "Forthwith, pursuant to the standards set forth in this document, publically-funded educational institutions may, upon determining the religious faith of any applicant for employment in said institution may regard this information as disqualifying, depending only upon the whims of the hiring authority"?

    Give it a rest, vid-it only means the subject is not closed to discussion-perhaps the aim is to specifically give oral notification to a fundamentalist Muslim applicant that any hint of Islamic instruction or propaganda in the classroom will not be tolerated and may be grounds for dismissal?

    Without such legislation, such subjects cannot be broached for fear of a lawsuit.

    Sounds pretty common-sensical to me.

    yeah right

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Under this bill a head start school administered by the city cannot discriminated against a person of faith, yet one administered by a religious group can discriminate against a person of different or no faith. Remember, both are funded by the tax payer.
    Oh.

    You mean this bill specifically says, "Forthwith, pursuant to the standards set forth in this document, publically-funded educational institutions may, upon determining the religious faith of any applicant for employment in said institution may regard this information as disqualifying, depending only upon the whims of the hiring authority"?

    Give it a rest, vid-it only means the subject is not closed to discussion-perhaps the aim is to specifically give oral notification to a fundamentalist Muslim applicant that any hint of Islamic instruction or propaganda in the classroom will not be tolerated and may be grounds for dismissal?

    Without such legislation, such subjects cannot be broached for fear of a lawsuit.

    Sounds pretty common-sensical to me.

    sounds unfair to me. was that a suggestion that muslims can't talk about their faith but christians can. in fact if that is the case it seems to be worse than what vid said

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4

    Oh.

    You mean this bill specifically says, "Forthwith, pursuant to the standards set forth in this document, publically-funded educational institutions may, upon determining the religious faith of any applicant for employment in said institution may regard this information as disqualifying, depending only upon the whims of the hiring authority"?

    Give it a rest, vid-it only means the subject is not closed to discussion-perhaps the aim is to specifically give oral notification to a fundamentalist Muslim applicant that any hint of Islamic instruction or propaganda in the classroom will not be tolerated and may be grounds for dismissal?

    Without such legislation, such subjects cannot be broached for fear of a lawsuit.

    Sounds pretty common-sensical to me.

    sounds unfair to me. was that a suggestion that muslims can't talk about their faith but christians can. in fact if that is the case it seems to be worse than what vid said
    Must you always be so unrelentingly thick?
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins


    sounds unfair to me. was that a suggestion that muslims can't talk about their faith but christians can. in fact if that is the case it seems to be worse than what vid said
    Must you always be so unrelentingly thick?
    so you were being sarcastic... or dumb as fuck?

    why is it ok for catholics to discriminate and promote, in fact force their ideas on children. yet muslims can't even be openly religious


    that's an answer to your theory, not the actual situation

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4

    Must you always be so unrelentingly thick?
    so you were being sarcastic... or dumb as fuck?

    why is it ok for catholics to discriminate and promote, in fact force their ideas on children. yet muslims can't even be openly religious


    that's an answer to your theory, not the actual situation
    Sarcastic, though I'm not sure why you might have been fooled...

    Is the Catholic faith (which I do not hold) mentioned in the proposed legislation?

    Is the Islamic faith mentioned?

    My post was a reply in the form of the legislation as vid seems to see it, and as such was aimed at him.
    If you choose to take up on his behalf, be sure you have fully assumed his mantle, and are prepared to argue the point as he would.

    As I was, by way of sarcasm, asking if he indeed saw the proposal as I stated, you might answer as to whether you yourself have that interpretation.

    That, or give up this penchant of yours for insinuating yourself into places you do not fit?
    Last edited by j2k4; 09-28-2005 at 07:04 PM.
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    if someone is an radical (extremist) in its believes yes i think schools should be able to ... :/

    (whatever believe they practise...)

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