I prefer to pretend he is a kindly Canadian lending a helping hand.Originally Posted by Mr. Mulder
Edit: KS was born in England
The first point about fox were meant as a joke, sort of.Originally Posted by Skizo
It does indicate which side of the fence the producers prefer though. [I doubt it's paid marketing, with the show airing on fox. If it is, it coincides well with their need for a news source other than CNN.]
@Busyman. It's the way I see it, and may not be purely republican. Though more prevalent amongst them for sure, IMO.
In any case, it's propganda - I mean - entertainment. To each their own indeed.
Edit: Cheese said it well.
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Oh I do something similar but I look at the story elements, music, sound effects, and acting quality so the people watching can be entertained...if I wanted to convey a political message, that can be thrown in as long as well placed.Originally Posted by Cheese
Imagery, symbolism, and everything else is great but the show still may suck.
24 is pure visceral action done right...symbolism can suck ass.
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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It's a Fox TV show and they used Fox News. Picture that.Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS
I don't understand why they didn't use a competitor owned by another company.
It must be the Christian right spewing their views in an action series.
Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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That's why 24 was a good show because it caters to the simple-minded with lots of gunfights, car chases, handsome actors and cool music whilst providing strong character development, plot development and other elements of the storytelling craft to the more demanding audience.Originally Posted by Busyman
I don't know about all that shit. Shows with gunfights, car chases, cool music, blahblahblah, are a dime-a-dozen.Originally Posted by Cheese
Character development and blahblah is shit if it's boring.
24 is an excellent mix.
The main draw to 24 is cliffhangers. A good cliffhanger has to be developed properly and create lots of tension. 24 does it beautifully.
Jack Bauer is not the deepest character in the world. He gets the job done even by skirting rules. I did like how he was essentially addicted to drugs in one season though.
Many folk get the gist of show without psychoanalyzing it. Hell even folks who like the show think many times it is far-fetcched but that doesn't stop them from liking it...well not everyone actually.
I remember a friend of mine who made good music but mine was like better.
He took music theory. I did not.
Plot and character development is the skeleton but it in itself does not entertain. It's just the starting point.
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Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!
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So I should have a show with the right mix of character/plot development, violence, cool music and loads of cliffhangers. Maybe a cliff-hanger at every ad-break?
Shame Prison Break beat me to it with its 56 cliffhangers an episode but don't even get me started on that show.
Mmm, so a lot of the popularity of the show (24) has to do with the cheap trick of the cliffhanger. Much like a soap-opera uses. Interesting.
I guess Lost uses a variation of this with its "onion layer mystery" thing it has going on. "Tune in next week when we reveal the answer to your questions with more questions".
The more I think about it the more I realise television sucks.
noot sky sports, football and aerobics oz styleOriginally Posted by Cheese
As long as I've got a face
You've got a place to sit
aerobics oz style>soccer AMOriginally Posted by Cheese
As long as I've got a face
You've got a place to sit
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