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Thread: jailed for denying the holocaust

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    hamza was jailed for incitement to commit murder which i think is fair enough. Griffin hasn't been jailed and is up for incitement to commit racial hatred, which is a bit more shaky imo and i suppose it is vaguely comparable to what irving did if he claimed the jews made up the holocaust for some purpose (I haven't really followed this story).
    Just claiming the holocaust didn't happen wouldn't be a problem at all in this country would it?

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    Which country?

    After looking, it is apparently a crime in Austria, France, Germany, Israel, Belgium, Poland, Lithuania and Switzerland.

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    It's illegal in Austria.

    They are understandbly touchy about the subject and presumably did not wish the survivors and the relatives of those murdered to be put thro' any more than they had already suffered.

    I think their rights outweigh his right to spout hate and bile.

    EDIT - It was Austria.

    He's also been fined in Germany, for publicly insisting the Nazi gas chambers at Auschwitz were a hoax.
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    I think their rights outweigh his right to spout hate and bile.

    rights?

    disagreed.


    the guy is a cawk, but being jailed for saying something stupid is wrong IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    I think their rights outweigh his right to spout hate and bile.

    rights?

    disagreed.


    the guy is a cawk, but being jailed for saying something stupid is wrong IMO
    Agreed, it's an opinion thing.

    I think if someone stands up in public and says certain things, then they should be jailed. I don't think that people can be allowed to say anything they want. Well they can, but society can say "no, that's beyond the pale" and do something about it.

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    laughed and pointed at, ja.

    jailing someone is no longer an *opinion thing, it's an infringement of his rights.


    *opinion, as in my opinion verse his opinion, even if one opinion does contradict the facts

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    Do you think it's ok for a christian to be jailed in a "non christain" country ?

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    laughed and pointed at, ja.

    jailing someone is no longer an *opinion thing, it's an infringement of his rights.


    *opinion, as in my opinion verse his opinion, even if one opinion does contradict the facts
    I don't understand what you mean there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Do you think it's ok for a christian to be jailed in a "non christain" country ?
    Again, I don't really understand the question.

    People get jailed if they are convicted of an offence in a country and the sentence is a period of incarceration. What has Christianity, or any other religion got to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JPaul
    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins
    laughed and pointed at, ja.

    jailing someone is no longer an *opinion thing, it's an infringement of his rights.


    *opinion, as in my opinion verse his opinion, even if one opinion does contradict the facts
    I don't understand what you mean there.
    i think i forgot half way through typing.



    well, regardless of facts and if people take offence, the law shouldn't get involved in peoples opinions

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