well sArA...if you dont try it, you will never know...and then the moderating problem...why not ask JPaul to do that?
well sArA...if you dont try it, you will never know...and then the moderating problem...why not ask JPaul to do that?
Its not the moderating problem for me so much as the idea of discussions being reduced to flaming, trolling and stuff that is basically out of order. I doubt if JP would want to play policeman anyway (although I haven't asked him)Originally Posted by thewizeard
I don't really have a problem with 99% of the lounge stuff myself but I can't imagine how much further people would want to go so that the lounge is insufficient do the job.
If everyone agrees, I am fine with it, I just don't see the point.
The Lounge on a forum is to keep spam away from proper discussions. That works and for the most part people use the Lounge, or threads are moved there as appropriate.
On this forum we also have The Drawing Room, which is supposed to be more highly moderated than the lounge, but isn't really. that's kind of slipped a bit and it's kind of become a Lounge for big words.
The reason for a Smoking Room is so that people can have friendly banter, in the Lounge, without any trolling or flaming etc. Then they can have nice wee chaps with minimal hassle.
Anyone who wanted to get involved in more "lively" debate could use the Smoking Room. Which I would expect to be subject to the normal rules of legality and decency. I would not propose for a second that racism, sectarianism, bigotry etc would be tolerated. Neither would anything like links to porn, warez etc.
It's just an idea and if people think things are OK as is, fine. However please don't make a decision based on "Rule 9". Rules are for the obedience of fools and the guidance of wise men.
"there is nothing misogynistic about anything, stop trippin.
i type this way because im black and from nyc chill son "
Yes but, I thought that was what the lounge was also for.......
True, but the lounge is public and it has rules and moderation...on the other hand...it could become a bit of an elite forum..especially if it were password protected...
Password protected is an idea.
We could also make it visible only to members who have a certain post count. That way we wouldn't scare the noobs away (or whatever you mods will invent next).
I think things have been more-or-less fine until just recently.
A problem easily solved gets out of hand, for what reason one can only speculate. ( )
That it has not been forthrightly addressed is a constant enigma.
The inanity of a "Super Lounge" should be apparent to all, and we certainly have no need to create an area that is defined by it's exclusivity, when such perceived as snobbery or snottiness is already (according to some) keeping people out of the Drawing Room and the Lounge.
Dodging the problem won't solve anything.
"Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."
-Mark Twain
Have to agree there isnt much point in this as well stated by j2 above. Had considered this also at some point but in truth would have to admit it would only be to dodge an issue. As for the issues that appear at times we can come to terms with them as we have with others. It would be nice if they werent fed though so we could get through them quicker and have an even better place for us all...
You know half our problems would be solved if the mods would just close .... not delete some of the offending threads or posts . Just leave them worts and all .
Let the members decide to read them or not , just a suggestion hopefuly worthy of thought . Nothing worse than seeing a good rebutal deleted ! That always pissed me off to see an honest attempt to solve a problem thrown out with the trash . I thought we were better ?
If the point is to have "lively debate," use the Drawing Room. That was its original intent. If the perception is that it's nothing more than Lounge2, I may be culpable for that; I imagine I'm the most active mod in that section, even if I've not been posting recently. Though I'm not much a fan of schlepping threads around, I could be more stringent if it's truly desired.
RatFaced's sticky in there says the following:
Though it's not explicitly stated there, at the time it was evident that vulgar language itself wasn't going to be basis for a warning- provided that it wasn't a one-off comment, held some meaning to the discussion, and wasn't fucking after every goddamn single fucking word.Please remember that this area is for SERIOUS discussion and debate.
This is not an excuse to say one off offensive remarks... If you have a point to make, then make it with evidence.
One off remarks such as "I hate Muslims" and anything else construed as being beyond the rules of civilised behaviour will be dealt with. This is not to stifle debate... if you have a controversial comment to make, then by all means make it... BUT BACK IT UP.
things are quiet until hitler decides he'd like to invade russia
so, he does
the russians are like "OMG WTF D00DZ, STOP TKING"
and the germans are still like "omg ph34r n00bz"
the russians fall back, all the way to moscow
and then they all begin h4xing, which brings on the russian winter
the germans are like "wtf, h4x"
-- WW2 for the l33t
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