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    The Corsair 620 would easily power such a rig and save money to boot.
    I also agree that a Conroe based system makes more sense than an AM2...a 6600 Core2 Duo paired with the Gigabyte GA 965P should do nicely.
    As fun as the iRAM is, I'm not sure what use you see for it.
    Forget the Raptors as well- a pair of perpendicular SATA Seagates run using Matrix RAID would blow the Raptors away.
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    OK, I've got a ton of Answers and Questions. Thanks for the help btw, You guys are awesome.

    Why do you want to use performance RAM in the Gigabyte i-RAM? There's a bottleneck at the SATA interface so you won't benefit from faster RAM.
    Thanks for letting me know. Which ram would you recommend for i-Ram instead to save money and get the best possible performance from it? We are thinking of install XP (or Vista...if it's out) on the i-RAM "only" to help it run smoother. Everything else will be stored on the hardrives and server.
    Reinstillation of the OS is no problem. I-Ram doesn't shock dead anytime soon does it? I remember having memory chips in cartridges (from the 90s) that would lose all their data if there was a power failure or so. I-Ram may just have potential risks. hmmmm


    Why do you think you need such high power 850W PSU?
    Wasn't sure, with so many parts going to need power. I remember reading something about the faster components get, the more power they consume. Correct?


    Do you plan on running the Raptors in RAID 0? If so then do you know the risks for data loss (considering this a "company" computer)?
    Hmm...probably would be better to stick without RAID. How much higher are the risks? Twice as high?


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    Quote Originally Posted by lynx View Post
    What's the point of the Gigabyte Ram Drive? The only practical use I can see in a commercial setup is for the page file, you certainly wouldn't want it for permanent storage.
    Well I didn't say it but I really don't see the point of the system as a whole. It doesn't make sense as a "company's main workstation".
    Probably should have said the company is pretty small. Only 3 people will be using this system...not at the same time of course. 33% of the time each on average...some days more or less. Some days 1 guy'll probably use it all day...yadda yadda. It will be the super computer for PROCESS INTENSIVE tasks only.

    Warning! The chosen CPU doesn't match the Motherboard socket!
    Holy shit, 940, AM2...I must have missed something in the past year. Wtf is up with 939 and 940 anyways? Why the extra...pin? AM2...is that like 1000? hah. Still...thank goodness. I'da had to send the damn thing back and wait a month.

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    That cpu needs a socket 940 mobo, and wut you have is a socket 939.
    That's not true. That CPU needs an AM2 Socket.
    lol

    Never hear of that brand PSU. But if you're willing to spend $283.99.

    Then get the best brand PC Power & Cooling. Maybe even clocker would agree.
    Thank you. I hate most power supplies, because very few are actually good. They have caused me more problems than any other component in the PC. I'd replace them with a better one and every would work great for years after. Goes to show...some are just crap. (especially PowMax...those evil bastards)

    Where is the HSF?
    I've got a ton here, but it probably wouldn't hurt getting a nice Zalman or something. thanks anyways

    The Corsair 620 would easily power such a rig and save money to boot.
    I also agree that a Conroe based system makes more sense than an AM2...a 6600 Core2 Duo paired with the Gigabyte GA 965P should do nicely.
    As fun as the iRAM is, I'm not sure what use you see for it.
    Forget the Raptors as well- a pair of perpendicular SATA Seagates run using Matrix RAID would blow the Raptors away.
    I'll have to convince everyone to try an Intel chip instead. I remember when Nvidia's new gfx cards wooped ATIs gfx cards in most benchmarks last christmas and the begining of this year.
    I see the I-Ram for running the OS, but I am now thinking it might be risky and I'll be reinstalling the OS more often than I'd like due to how easy data can be dropped from memory. Heck, I remember having SNES games drop all their saves when the house had any brown outs. Tiny memory, but I assume it's similar. As for the Gigabyte motherboard...I'mmm kinda startin to dislike Gigabyte, due to strange glitches in the BIOS I've had to face on 2 different systems. Settings would change without me every modifying anything...or if I reset the settings, I'd start getting Nvidia RAID checks that were unable to be removed and normally just went away after like 10 restarts...can't explain that one. heh
    Asus still good? I had one before and just loved it.


    Ok, let's see what's going to be modified...
    1. Intel Core2 Duo cpu, (Drop the AMD CPU)
    2. Intel Core2 Due supported Motherboard made by Asus...or maybe Gigabyte, (Drop the AMD asus motherboard that wouldna fit the AM2 AMD CPU anyways...damn socket types sneak up on ya when you look at several boards or cpus)
    3. Probably drop the I-Ram due to risks of data loss from power outages, static, etc
    4. Drop one of the Raptors, since RAID has much higher risks of data loss that running a single Raptor.
    5. Get a nice CPU HFS
    6. Use the bathroom in 10 seconds causing me to possibly forget to mention 1 more thing.
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    If you're planning on overclocking i would recommend the e6600 over the e6700 and x6800. you can easily overclock the e6600 way beyond an x6800. I'd only recommend the x6800 if you just have alot of cash to blow, or you're an extreme overclocker. The main siginificant thing about the x6800 is the unlimited multiplier which is only usefuly when you overclock. Save the money to get a good 24 inch LCD monitor ...

    Processor intel e6600: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819115003

    Motherboard, Asus seems to make the best mobos for intel core 2 duo but at a high price, this board should do http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131028 , or if you wanna go overboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131025

    Ram: They recently increased the price of ddr2 ram by around 60$ due to supply and demand. This corsair seems good http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145034, OR IF you can afford it, you could try getting ddr1000 instead of ddr800 , http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231077

    Most of the other stuff i assume you can decide on your own. Remember the 7600gt is a much better card than that 6800xt, so if you're trying to get a decent for this workstation, then just get a 7600gt for the hell of it. And if you're not going to buy 2 graphics cards for one system, then an 850 watt is pointless, my 2 cents.
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    i also vote e6600 and pc power and cooling!
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    Wolfie:
    I've had the i-RAM for several months and never experienced any data loss.
    The backup battery is good for about 12 hours.
    That said, XP will just barely fit on the i-RAM's 4GB drive and there's no way Vista would.

    You can run PC2700 on the card without slowing it down and remember that you cannot have heatspreaders on the modules as there just isn't room.
    The speed and silence are great but unless the three users are all fairly experienced and mindful (no more dumping files willy-nilly on the desktop, for instance) it would be more trouble than it's worth.


    PCP&C supplies are nice but you don't need that much power and they tend to be noisy as well.
    The Seasonic S12/M12's are powerful and virtually silent.
    The Hiper 580 worked well in Sprocket but you have to be aware of the extra length.
    The previously mentioned Corsair is also highly rated and has an interesting cabling design.

    I'd also skip the Asus Vento case and look at the CM Stacker TC-T01 (the original)... more adaptable layout and great cooling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
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    Forget the Raptors as well- a pair of perpendicular SATA Seagates run using Matrix RAID would blow the Raptors away.
    Which type of seagates? What's Matrix RAID?

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    This one: Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3320620AS (Perpendicular Recording Technology) 320 GB

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148140

    http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets...ge_sb.htm#desk

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    what's RAM Voltage? Is it only good for Overclocking or does a higher voltage give better performance?

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    Ram voltage is electrical power to the ram on the motherboard. Usually ram is given the highest voltage possible it can handle, to allow stability and greater overclocking of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Formula1 View Post
    Ram voltage is electrical power to the ram on the motherboard. Usually ram is given the highest voltage possible it can handle, to allow stability and greater overclocking of it.
    oh ok. thanks.


    hah, after making all those changes to our wishlist, the price dropped all the way down to $2,100! NICE!

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