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    Owing to the traditions of aniconism in Islam, the majority of art concerning Muhammad is calligraphic in nature. The Qur'an condemns idolatry, and pictoral forms are seen as ostensibly close to idol worship. These are found in Ahadith [plural of Hadith]: "Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) having said: Those who paint pictures would be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it would be said to them: Breathe soul into what you have created." [93][94][95][96]


    Within Muslim communities, views have varied regarding pictorial representations. Shi'a Islam has been generally tolerant of pictorial representations of human figures, including Muhammad.[97] Contemporary Sunni Islam generally forbids any pictorial representation of Muhammad,[98] but has had periods allowing depictions of Muhammad's face covered with a veil or as a featureless void emanating light. A few contemporary interpretations of Islam, such as some adherents of Wahhabism and Salafism, are entirely aniconistic and condemn pictorial representations of any kind.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jylland...ersy#Aniconism




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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins View Post
    Owing to the traditions of aniconism in Islam, the majority of art concerning Muhammad is calligraphic in nature. The Qur'an condemns idolatry, and pictoral forms are seen as ostensibly close to idol worship. These are found in Ahadith [plural of Hadith]: "Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) having said: Those who paint pictures would be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it would be said to them: Breathe soul into what you have created." [93][94][95][96]


    Within Muslim communities, views have varied regarding pictorial representations. Shi'a Islam has been generally tolerant of pictorial representations of human figures, including Muhammad.[97] Contemporary Sunni Islam generally forbids any pictorial representation of Muhammad,[98] but has had periods allowing depictions of Muhammad's face covered with a veil or as a featureless void emanating light. A few contemporary interpretations of Islam, such as some adherents of Wahhabism and Salafism, are entirely aniconistic and condemn pictorial representations of any kind.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jylland...ersy#Aniconism



    thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GepperRankins View Post
    Owing to the traditions of aniconism in Islam, the majority of art concerning Muhammad is calligraphic in nature. The Qur'an condemns idolatry, and pictoral forms are seen as ostensibly close to idol worship. These are found in Ahadith [plural of Hadith]: "Ibn ‘Umar reported Allah’s Messenger (pbuh) having said: Those who paint pictures would be punished on the Day of Resurrection and it would be said to them: Breathe soul into what you have created." [93][94][95][96]


    Within Muslim communities, views have varied regarding pictorial representations. Shi'a Islam has been generally tolerant of pictorial representations of human figures, including Muhammad.[97] Contemporary Sunni Islam generally forbids any pictorial representation of Muhammad,[98] but has had periods allowing depictions of Muhammad's face covered with a veil or as a featureless void emanating light. A few contemporary interpretations of Islam, such as some adherents of Wahhabism and Salafism, are entirely aniconistic and condemn pictorial representations of any kind.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jylland...ersy#Aniconism



    Basically the way I read that is that they are saying, if we make images then it is the images we would worship and not the person they represent.

    I find it difficult to understand why that would be the case.

    I may obviously be misunderstanding the true meaning.

    It also doesn't explain why they would threaten to kill other people (non-Muslims) who make such images. If the person does not worship the Prophet or the image then it's not idolatry it's nothing, it's just an image. How does that warrant any form of punishment, far less a death sentence.
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    +1 for Sweden!

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    Given how secularized Sweden is, it's a wonder I was ever a protestant.
    TBH, most people here won't even notice any change.

    It's probably good, though. If people want to believe they should do it on their own time, like, and preventing people from forcing their religious beliefs on others is probably a good thing in this context, given that teachers are in a position of power, and children are impressionable, and all that.

    I wonder about people being home-schooled, though, probably a loophole there, if it's not covered. Just call it cooperative home-schooling or something.



    Worship this, inbred fools and whatnot.
    Last edited by Snee; 11-10-2007 at 01:55 PM.

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