is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?

[mbucari1]

And a NZB does not point to a URL or server, the client you use to download has to read the Message ID from the post, and it has to "decode" teh message, that's not even remotely the same as Rapidshit.

It's doesn't point to a specific server, that's where the differences end. An NZB is a specific location of a file. Yes, the newsreader has to read the message id and download the file. Similarily, the web browser has to resolve the domain and request the specific file. The newsreader decodes the download into a useable file, just like the user decodes a rar or a zip to get a useable file.

There's nothing "special" about usenet and nzb's. In the end it's binary data transfered over tcp/ip.

[SonsOfLiberty]

It's XML and as you can see it's quite different then Rapidshare....besides Raidshare links (for very hot titles) last days not 300 days. Thank god for my Firefox add-on when I do surf sites that have those links, it will have a green checkmark for good and red x for not there anymore, which is becoming more common, them not being there.

[mbucari1]

But it's still data pointing to other pirated data. The pointing data in itself is not illegal, but the data it points to is. In that sense, there is no difference. Semantics aside, they do the same thing.

[Villalltheway]

End of the day dont this site help distripute illegal downloads through its nzb files, so to say this site is a 100% legit site is not so accurate. The argument of saying that this site dont host these files but merely links to where the files are did not really work for the pirates bay.

[SonsOfLiberty]

Ummm, we not TPB, we don't have torrents, NZB's are not illegal in any country. It's not illegal to use Usenet. There may be a court case against Newzbin...guess we will have to wait to see how that plays out...but back to the point....it's not illegal matter of fact it's legal to download from Usenet (even pirated content) in some countries as an example look at the FTD case.

https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-new...r-brein-352307

or google FTD and find out for yourselfs.

[mbucari1]

Ummm, we not TPB, we don't have torrents, NZB's are not illegal in any country. It's not illegal to use Usenet. There may be a court case against Newzbin...guess we will have to wait to see how that plays out...but back to the point....it's not illegal matter of fact it's legal to download from Usenet (even pirated content) in some countries as an example look at the FTD case.

https://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-new...r-brein-352307

or google FTD and find out for yourselfs.

It's not illegal to download from RS either. And I'm sure there are countries where pirated downloads are legal (or at least not prosecuted). I've never said usenet is illegal, I've said that posting nzb's is inherently no different from posting RS links.

[SonsOfLiberty]

Sure it is, Rapidshare links last for a month maybe less maybe longer, Usenet now has 300 days and counting. It's not illegal to download from Rapidshit, but they (you know who they are) are watching your downloads and exspecailly your uploads...have fun having your details given out by Rapidshare....they've did it numerous times.

[mbucari1]

From what I've read, RS doesn't give details for downloaders, only uploaders. This is also similar to usenet in that providers have given out account details for uploaders (I think only in the case of child pornography) but not downloads (unless there are reports about RS that I haven't read about?).

Also, you didn't comment on the part of my previous part about the near-indetical nature of nzb's and url's. Do you agree?

[SonsOfLiberty]

Somewhat, a URL and a Message ID are two different things, you don't need a NZB to download a file, but you do need the URL to grab whatever from Rapishare, correct?

[mbucari1]

Agreed. I just thought that they were similar enough where if one was allowed both would be allowed.