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    I have to disagree with some of the tings you've said.

    When someone does a giveaway and doesn't give it to the 'newcomers' it's because he can't review their posts and see what kind of torrent-users they are, even if someone is a spammer you can see in the posts history what kind of a person he is and other useful information.

    RevTT is a nice site but compared to TL it's lame, staff there keeps sending massages ALL THE TIME with this lottery thing which of course is like telling the users "hey we want more money give it to us, well ? come on ?" kind of annoying when you have TL with top speeds great pre times and better content.

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    opening signup will potentially increase the risk of people doing multiple sign ups and sellling/trading accounts, which in term destroys the whole point of most community based trackers. just look at the 4000 accounts disabled on revtt

    i suppose closing sign ups and hand picking users are the only viable solution.

  3. BitTorrent   -   #13
    Quote Originally Posted by Tiantian View Post
    opening signup will potentially increase the risk of people doing multiple sign ups and sellling/trading accounts, which in term destroys the whole point of most community based trackers. just look at the 4000 accounts disabled on revtt

    i suppose closing sign ups and hand picking users are the only viable solution.
    lol, that's false. When was the last time you saw someone trading a Bitsoup account? Never.

    It's easy to detect dupe accounts. Having staff hand pick users = no community. These releases were leaked to the P2P scene to share with other users, not to exclude them from it.

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    ok, so you have trackers that are huge and open all the time, for your last point.

    you also have trackers that keep closed and only have a certain amount of members as well.

    you have the best of both worlds imo.

    and easy to detect dupe accounts, hmm sometimes it is, others not so. obviously if a tracker only allows 500 members then pretty easy, if a tracker stops open for 2 weeks and gets 50,000 members, then its nearly impossible, or a hell of a job for the staff.

    Ive seen a BCG account on ebay go for $160 before, and that was when we were opening up regularly.

    We have been to both ends of the spectrum, opening up all the time, getting 100,000 users, and now closing up completely (for now) and i tell you something, its nice to have some time not chasing dupe accounts etc.

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    just wanted to chime in, when I give invites away, I use a variety of methods to examine the potential winners. Post history here is always nice, but for the newcommers here, I don't automatically disqualify them. I just look for other methods to verify what kind of user they are. Asking for profile links at the trackers they are good members of, looking at their posts in those forums, things like that. If there is no real info to go on though, there is no way I would risk giving an invite to some one I could not even begin to know. I am more then willing to help them out with some of the more forgiving sites, who don't ban the whole invite tree for one bad apple, everyone deserves a chance, and the chance to prove themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Wanderer View Post
    I think trackers like FTN or FSC or TT or whatever high level tracker needs to open up and bring some fresh and healthy blood or else will stagnate and eventually will die.

    For example... I keep reading about FTN here and on other forums. I am not a FTN member and I can say anything good or bad about this tracker, but it seems that there are certain members who are not so happy with what's going on there.
    As far as FTN i agree it may need some new blood once in awhile to keep the tracker healthy and it has gotten new blood recently. I don't know who complained to you about FTN but it's definitely all its talked up and made out to be. I do agree about iTS and the leeching problem, but that will change in a few months. iTS is still a very new tracker. You have to give it time.

    Quote Originally Posted by DKre8ive1 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Wanderer View Post
    On iTS (where I am member)for example, in forums you can read almost everyday posts complaining about the lack of leechers.
    Since I am not a member on there I have no idea what system they use so I can only make a suggestion that they use a time seeding ratio to help out with the lack of leechers then people will be less scared to grab a torrent.
    It's the same as FTN. Only upload is counted and such. I do great site improvements coming in the near future though. It's definitely a quality site like FSC, and FTN.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tokeman View Post
    just wanted to chime in, when I give invites away, I use a variety of methods to examine the potential winners. Post history here is always nice, but for the newcommers here, I don't automatically disqualify them. I just look for other methods to verify what kind of user they are. Asking for profile links at the trackers they are good members of, looking at their posts in those forums, things like that. If there is no real info to go on though, there is no way I would risk giving an invite to some one I could not even begin to know. I am more then willing to help them out with some of the more forgiving sites, who don't ban the whole invite tree for one bad apple, everyone deserves a chance, and the chance to prove themselves.
    1+. 100% agree with you on that statement. Thats how i gauge everything i do for a member known or not known. I do increase my emphasis on the unknown members though. I'm a brute with post history and just judge on you on your character, participation, and how helpful you are. Post count means shit to me just like speedtests (imo). Traders, scammers, and cheaters automatically= NO INVITE.
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    Yep, the reason why post history is important, is because it's one of the best ways to size up a persons personality. I'd rather invite a nice person with moderate ratios, rather than an anti-social douche with a buffer as large as his ego.

    One thing I would like to see in giveaways is grading criteria. If people would post what they are looking for in their invitee it would weed out the unqualified users, in addition to saving those unqualified users time making proofs.

    I would definitely like to see a more uniform way of making giveaways though.
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    Just have to set rules according to what you want to see in your users to see if they really want it for what the trackers worth, instead of for bragging rights, or trading purposes. I set strict rules to weed out traders, scammers, and cheaters and sway good trusted users in my giveaways.

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    The problem is all the people who just see a giveaway and post without reading... I was quite specific on my giveaway, granted it was a long post, but not hard to read IMO. I still got posts like 'sct plz' and such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tokeman View Post
    The problem is all the people who just see a giveaway and post without reading... I was quite specific on my giveaway, granted it was a long post, but not hard to read IMO. I still got posts like 'sct plz' and such.
    I hate that very much lol. I think users purposely don't read and think their going to pull a fast one by mentioning trackers not presented in that particular giveaway. It amuses me but irritates me even more. Good point Tokeman.

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