what will be the end with waffles??

[Gish]

wow people are actully complaning about the amount of seeders!
BTW two sites are better than one so if one goes down there be another one to run to.

[Swift]

open for signup

indeed my friend, that will increase the leeching

whats the user limit now ? maybe increasing the limit with a open signup or giveing invites to users

[prima1]

I don't know about what and waffles since I am not a member,
but I used to have a 100GB buffered account on oink before it goes down, and I mainly uploaded applications to build it, so if these 2 new sites have only music it would make things more difficult but not impossible, problem is that even if you keep your downloads seeded for a very long periods of time, people with faster connections or seedboxes will get most of the upload, so unless you upload your own stuff it's very hard

[Torn]

Your best bet is just seeding 24/7 if it's possible.

Has anyone here been banned for having a bad ratio at either What or Waffles? I think as long as you try, you'll be fine!

[Vidde]

I'm more irritated at the lack of seeders... But it's the same thing; lack of leechers equals lack of seeders in the end. I've buffered my acc far then enough, but my problem is when I finally use it, which is far from often, I'm in some cases not able to leech the album or proggie at all, cause of the lack of seeders.. I think I've hit 40kb/sec once, but other then that, nah.. There are too many torrents with only 1 or 2 seeders..

Oh well, hope they'll do something, without growing too much, and without any seed points, it will destroy everything..

-Vidde

[DarkLured]

I keep good ratios on both What and Waffles, even though I'm throttled by Comcast, I download a lot of music and I started at both with no buffer. Still, it can be difficult to keep up a good ratio given the relatively low number of leechers overall. As someone mentioned above, that is largely due to the nature of the site itself - it's a music tracker and it strives to have a very broad and deep selection of music (like Oink), so there is going to be a lot of stuff on the tracker that is not heavily in demand (e.g. old soul b-sides) and therefore will not be downloaded often.

So, what can you do? Seed what you download for a long time (I seed everything for 2-3 months, and much longer for less in-demand and poorly seeded albums). If you can't/won't do this, then a private music tracker is not for you.

As for what else can/should be done:

Seed bonus system - Good idea. It would help those who seed but are unable to upload a lot, it would encourage downloading (since people will be less worried about being unable to seed back older and less popular albums) and encourage seeding of underseeded torrents.

Overseed warning - Might be a good idea, as it could give other seeders a better chance to share back. However, it would need to be very carefully configured and limited (e.g. only warn overseeders on very well-seeded torrents, as you don't want to discourage seeders in general or hurt download speeds too much.

No ratio + hit-and-run enforcement - Not sure about this one. I worry that there is not enough incentive for people to continue seeding very old torrents. Waffles is intended to be a music archive, so keeping old torrents seeded is critical.

More users - Letting in more users just to increase leeching is a bad idea. As others have mentioned, if the site gets too large there is a greater risk of it being targeted by anti-piracy groups/authorities. The number of users should be allowed to increase slowly/gradually and in a way the site infrastructure is equipped to handle.

Open signups - Yeah right, great idea

[Ratzy Rox]

Oink was no different, whats the problem?

[Emma1979]

i definately agree with the seed bonus. It would encourage more use. I only dl torrents on these sites that i know i will at last get back a 1:1 ratio (only cos i leave my pc on 24/7).

[dythim]

Once you build a new buffer, it's fairly easy to maintain a good ratio. It's not that difficult... even without a seedbox. Utilize free leech or double upload.

[AugustoP]

I'm more irritated at the lack of seeders... But it's the same thing; lack of leechers equals lack of seeders in the end. I've buffered my acc far then enough, but my problem is when I finally use it, which is far from often, I'm in some cases not able to leech the album or proggie at all, cause of the lack of seeders.. I think I've hit 40kb/sec once, but other then that, nah.. There are too many torrents with only 1 or 2 seeders..

Oh well, hope they'll do something, without growing too much, and without any seed points, it will destroy everything..

-Vidde

Err, what kind of music are you after?