The acceptable face of racism - Apparently

[JPaul]

Also why is it you are being so seemingly hostile? I mean JP eh he's a dick but I have done nothing to you, have I?

You were talking so much shite I assumed it was a joke in bad taste. If you were serious then you are simply an idiot who doesn't know what he is talking about.

What have the English got to do with Northern Ireland. They are both part of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. The English are no more occupying Northern Ireland than they are Scotland or Wales. Likewise the Scots aren't occupying England or Wales or Northern Ireland and so on.

What does any of this have to do with the Americans. It's got to do with the people of the United Kingdom, who have decided on varying degrees of devolution from the Westminster parliament. It was the people of the different parts of the UK who voted on this for themselves. It's also an ongoing process.

The Scots are the best off just now. Scottish MPs get to vote on everything in Westminster. Whereas no English people have any say on how the devolved issues (mainly health, education and law & order)are dealt with in Scotland. I think that's wrong when it comes to issues which will effect only England and I think England should have some power itself. If anything the English are currently the least self-determining.

[chalice]

I suppose the problem is that Detale's been listening to too much bravado from the Irish Ex-Pats he's been working with in New York. Some of us have a bad habit of selecting interesting hyperbole when abroad. They see the genuine fascination in folk and exploit it. Whether its to garner sympathy, respect, fear, whatever. I've seen it done.

I went to New York a couple of years ago and did what I do in Ireland. That is, get really drunk in Irish pubs. Some of the conversations I had were surreal to say the least. One such centred around me having to draw water from the bottom of a well in my garden to bathe in. I convinced this guy that I had to pour half of the water out in tribute so that the Leprechauns wouldn't get offended and steal my first born child. He believed it.

[JPaul]

Yes but how do we get from a rangers top to an Irishman having to give an Englishman a kicking. Their support would traditionally come from Scotland, primarily the west, or Ireland, primarily the north.

[chalice]

Quite right.

To say nothing of Bono- who is Southern in any case.

It is widely believed by Northern Republicans that Southerners couldn't give two fucks about the situation in the North. This is propounded by the fact that Eire has relinquished her constitutional claim on Ulster.

They are wealthy and so, politically uncontentious. In the North (amongst the Nationalist community, at least) it is a bitter stain on the Republic that they sold us out to suffer at the hands of Loyalists.

[JPaul]

I think it was generally accepted that the truce could not go ahead without that constitutional reform. It basically forced certain hands.

"Right, that's your biggest objection. It's not there any more. What now".

Sometimes shit has to happen so you can grow roses. It appears to an outsider that your economy is coming on great guns (pun intended). I certainly see regeneration when I visit.

[Detale]

@ Chalice I suppose that is, as I said, the only real info I have gotten from people here so I guess I'm a bit more ignorant on the subject than I thought, Apologies, I will continue to ask others and get future opinions though for my own info.Thanks again man

@ JP dude,you seem to know a bit about this again your problem with me, whatever is it, overshadows any valid points you have. Its a shame really, you seem like a pretty smart guy but you also seem to attack me whenever I post in "your" section. I hope you don't think this will deter future posts in the lounge because it most certainly will not. You told me off, I told you off now lets stop the bullshit OK? I call for a truce how bout that?

[chalice]

@ Chalice I suppose that is, as I said, the only real info I have gotten from people here so I guess I'm a bit more ignorant on the subject than I thought, Apologies, I will continue to ask others and get future opinions though for my own info.Thanks again man

My pleasure.

To be perfectly honest, it's nice to be able to speak with authority about a subject I can't help but know about.

Makes a change from the inept pish I'm used to spouting on here.

[Detale]

1 last thing where do I know your nick from?? Do you Staff somewhere else??

[chalice]

The only thing I staff is my kids.

You'd have to be a fucking nut to let me run a board. LOL.

[JPaul]

@ JP dude,you seem to know a bit about this again your problem with me, whatever is it, overshadows any valid points you have. Its a shame really, you seem like a pretty smart guy but you also seem to attack me whenever I post in "your" section. I hope you don't think this will deter future posts in the lounge because it most certainly will not. You told me off, I told you off now lets stop the bullshit OK? I call for a truce how bout that?

I don't have any problem with you, I don't even know you. I've read your posts on the internet and if they are anything to go by you are an ignorant and rude person, who defends it by saying "I was only joking, it's everyone else who misunderstands me". I do have a problem when you post shite about things you clearly know little or nothing about.

Post wherever you want it's none of my business, I certainly don't consider any part of a public forum to be mine, that's coming from your own wee head. For the most part I will ignore your drivel, if it gets too tedious I will simply ignore you. However when you post shite I will highlight it as such, if I care enough about the subject obviously.

I have never "told you off", you certainly haven't done the same to me. Grow the fuck up, we're not 13. Well I amn't.

"I call for a truce how bout that?" :earl: Is it your ambition to make yourself look a total prat. If so you have succeeded. It's to your credit. There's no need for a "truce", just stop attacking people and posting nonsense.