there is really nothing wrong with trading. yeah, its against site rules but.....
traders dont bother me as much as anti-traders do. i dont like pepsi but i dont feel the need to put it in my signature nor do i think its necessary to adopt an outwardly anti-pepsi mentality and smear it all over a forum
wtf?
KFedit : removed the swearing part and attacks, this ain't something we accept here, thank you
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Privacy and security as arguments against trading are total bollocks.
I put this in just for you after you said it in the other thread!
Perhaps, but many trackers dont care at all as long as there are no problems on the account. If I was going to become a trader then I would sign up and use trackers from a public place, like a school or library or even using my seedbox, and make my accounts there to keep my home IP out of the tracker's system. I would upload and download using a seedbox to buffer accounts for trade if I had to.
That was funny but no, many people do this and like a sheep I just copied them.Don't want to tempt fate by invoking the name of the devil spawn I suppose.
I agree with the against tracker rules part being the only valid reason. Who knows, maybe the FBI have hired that 14 year old kid? The whole point of this thread was to show that tracker privacy and security are not arguments that can be used against trading as they have no relevance and anyone who thinks so is living in a little fantasy world.
I am going to deal with all the arguments about community in one response. The majority of users, traders or not, just dont give a damn about community. They post on forums only when there is a problem: they never join IRC, never give torrent comments and generally use the tracker only to download stuff. So what if traders are not big on community, they just act like the majority of users do.
c0njur, I agree with you completely its all about the 1337'ness. Read some of the threads by people who think they are elite because they have tracker X or are staff on tracker Y and you just want to laugh at them. I should point out that none of this is aimed at stoi in any way as he is a good guy who actually makes good posts (even if I dont agree with him!).
kooftspc11, I am with you totally on this as anti-traders irritate me as well.
It is the moralistic attitude of the anti-traders that gets to me most of all. They are thieves, just like me, and have no inherent right of moral superiority over anyone else who uses FST. People like benchez, or anyone else in the anti-trade brigade, are the real scum of the torrent world as they are so morally hypocritical; not us average FST users as we dont claim to be morally superior, better or more elite than anyone else.
Last edited by KFlint; 08-02-2008 at 07:05 PM.
@ whoever
Trading (regardless of whatever excuse given for it) comes down to 1 single point. It is against EVERY trackers rules....end of story. On that point alone no trader argument can stand...PERIOD!
Now if they want to totally disregard that rule, what does that say about their character?
What does it say about how they treated the person who invited them to the tracker they are/or have now just traded to begin with? Most traders will tell their initial inviter... I won't trade, I will keep the account in good standing and then proceed to buffer the shit out of it and trade it away. With no care of whether their inviter or anyone else in the inviters tree gets banned over their actions.
People hate/dislike traders for that point also, most are just self-serving little boys looking to work their way up the levels, so they can brag about their e-penises. Which, when it comes right down to it, isn't theirs to begin with. It was someone else's account after all that they traded for.
Their word means less than nothing.
Last edited by Skizo; 08-02-2008 at 06:52 PM. Reason: removed kenny comments
Please do not randomly PM asking for invites as I have none to give out. Have a nice day.
The question you posted, puckface, itīs not for me but Iīd like to state my opinion: giveaways are a very irresponsible thing, a proof of disrespect to the tracker. In my firsts days here I made 1 or 2, fortunately only a few convinced me and I didnīt give not even the 20% of offered.
I canīt deny some users try to do it in a very demanding way and select winners very carefully. Even so I donīt like giveaways... Iīve seen excellent proofs, non traders, and respected users applying, but they requested something they didnīt know what it was exactly, or they didnīt like the site, or whatever, and many accounts are created and never used... in the best of the cases.
The first thing I have on my mind is that I am a guest in a private site, itīs not my site, Iīm only there as an invitee, my first obligation is follow some rules and keep the behavior they expect from me.
Giveaways are exactly the same that trading.
I have given dozens of invites to very wanted and high leveled sites, but I like more to select the candidate by myself, I see a guy who is asking for a certain site, he insists, I check his profile and then itīs possible I call him via PM and make my own test. If he passes it, he may get it. So far that system has worked very well for me.
But giveaways for getting RP, to look like a cool guy or exhibit them later as a proof or helping and generous member when he asks for something is nothing else but crap.
seems like i am repeating myself here in about 5 different threads, but here goes.
invite trading, isnt so bad if both members want those trackers, because they will start out with their own identity and on 0/0 0.00 ratio.
Account traders most of the time are looking for buffered accounts, because they either want the promotion/benefits that come with the account, or they just want to rape the site dry and that account of everything the tracker has (or most) and just not seed back at all.
Its like cheating on a game. you buy/download a game, boot it up, before you even try to do it yourself, you cheat and get invinite ammo, level skips and go to the final boss and beat the game.
its pointless, Why should a trader get a very good account on a very good tracker [7-10] in the content rating, not the silly rarity rating, without putting any work in themselves.
Laziness and greediness springs to mind for account traders, invite traders, at least they have to work at the account when they get it, even if it is a month with a seedbox, they still have to work at it a bit.
also an account trader will usually use the buffer up, and trade that account again for another buffered account on another tracker, thats a little bit lower on the rarity ratings, and its just a viscious circle.
they could by rights, spend 3 years trading accounts, and never upload a byte, but download TBs of stuff.
Now is that a good member?
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