Socialism is the plague of the 21st century.
My country is in a puddle of dog excrement because of it's socialist system.
Your example does perfectly elucidate what happens under Socialism Skee.
I'll cite an example from my own homeland.
A very small amount of people actually work hard here. Private initiative is less than 40% of the active labor-force. More than 50% suck off the public teat, which means that the State has no means of income other than taxation.
They thus tax highly on the small amount of people who are actually working, of their own devices. Something Socialism cannot accept is that some people are better at certain types of work than others, which is simply the nature of life. We are not all the same!
Instead of incentivating those who excel, Socialism squashes them. They get treated no better than those who are inferior at that particular craft. This is unfair. Ultimately, Socialism makes for a suffocating atmosphere where everyone is "in limbo".
Taxes are high, but salaries are low. However this is relative. Those working for the state (who have no boss, a job until they die from which they short of cannot be fired, do as they please, and still get payed for extra hours and the like) complain and go on regular strikes, because they also want an escalating salary that'll go up every year.
Their complaints ultimately result in the prices going up. Tickets for public transport go up, the price of most such services is at an all-time high, as a response to their jabberings, so that they'll earn more. Yet salaries remain low.
What people don't understand is the only way they can get higher salaries is if there is more private initiative. The economy is dead. Almost everything is indirectly state-owned, and the labor laws are so ridiculous nobody can even conceive of launching a business proper. You simply are not allowed to fire your employees. Which means they can do as they please, be lazy and faff about, because they're immune.
Socialism is not even a utopia. It is just incorrect and unfeasible. All that anti-Capitalist (the system where "wolves attack each other and only the strongest survive") talk is fine and dandy, but there is no alternative.
Without healthy competition there can be no economic evolution. Man needs an incentive to work harder, or work at all for that matter. It's as simple as that. We are not some superior being that will only function ideally in a situation where the riches are distributed equally amongst everyone and nobody is richer and yet no-one is poorer. That is simply unrealistic.
The incentive of capital works. The ability to fire your employees is a good thing. Not only does it make them work harder (so as not to be fired) but it also means you are able to put into action a growing enterprise.
"Oh but if the company is raking in profit then it shouldn't be allowed to perform setbacks" Why not? A company can fire whenever it needs or decides to. Otherwise it always has a barrier to a possible development or progression. If you went to the trouble of building a company out of your own sweat, why shouldn't you be allowed to run it the best you can?
Even if the ethics of working and progression for an ever-increasing capital sound or feel corrupted, they are ultimately for the public good. At least for an economic good. Socialism is no different. Corrupted State officials rake in copious amounts of dough on the side and still live off better than the rest. This is no news.
In a Socialist regime you don't know for who you are working the land you're working. It doesn't belong to you, but you don't know who it belongs to. The "state"?
Marx and Engels spoke of the alienation of the worker under Capitalism.
I say the worker has no impetus to work under Socialism. I've seen good people get into the system and get corrupted by it. Why should they try? Why work harder? If your pay will be the same? Why be good or nice and not accept bribes? If the system is built in such a way that the vandals get the spoils and those who are honest get shat on?
Another particularly annoying aspect of Socialism here is pensions. Old people complain that they don't get enough a month for sitting on their couches crunching crisps or playing domino in the public gardens.
I say they should have saved up money throughout their life (trimming a bit off every month until their eventual retirement) so they'd be able to live off it later. If it isn't enough, then the odd job helps.
What doesn't help is having young people work hard to pay incredibly high taxes which also get subdivided into the pensions these old people get (I say old but young people get the dole as well, many to spend on heroine or other drugs and perpetuate their unemployment but we won't get into that chapter).
Why should you pay for someone else's pension? It's not like they payed you for anything.
When I worked I had to trim off a considerable amount of my salary for entities I knew nothing about. "Social security" has never done anything for me. And yet I had to pay for it even if I didn't want to. The rest went to the high taxes.
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Originally Posted by bilkenter
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