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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Shit...these days it's considered racist if a honkie like me even denies complicity in the "slave question".

    It's what is considered to be a "disqualifying" blow in the arena of ideas.
    Oh, poor Kev....the "Woe is me, the poor beleaguered conservative" card hits the felt.
    Really, when was the last time you had to actively defend yourself against hostile blacks regarding your "complicity"?

    Are there even any blacks at all in your neck o the woods?
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    Shit...these days it's considered racist if a honkie like me even denies complicity in the "slave question".

    It's what is considered to be a "disqualifying" blow in the arena of ideas.
    Oh, poor Kev....the "Woe is me, the poor "beleaguered conservative" card hits the felt.
    Really, when was the last time you had to actively defend yourself against hostile blacks regarding your "complicity"?

    Are there even any blacks at all in your neck o the woods?
    That's an awfully klutzy-sounding name you've coined - file it alongside your own "right-wing conspiracy" and "right-wing media", all of which qualifies as fictional..anyway, name for me a conservative who is not "beleaguered" by you Alinskyites?

    As to your "are there any" query, the answer is yes.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    If you don't think that Fox News qualifies as "right wing", you're delusional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    If you don't think that Fox News qualifies as "right wing", you're delusional.
    And if you don't think ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, et al, qualify as left-wing, you are delusional.
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    Is there no un-biased news in America?

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
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    If you don't think that Fox News qualifies as "right wing", you're delusional.
    And if you don't think ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, et al, qualify as left-wing, you are delusional.
    Ah, I see.
    You get to claim that ABC et al are left biased while simultaneously claiming that Fox is "fair and balanced".
    How convenient for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
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    And if you don't think ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, et al, qualify as left-wing, you are delusional.
    Ah, I see.
    You get to claim that ABC et al are left biased while simultaneously claiming that Fox is "fair and balanced".
    How convenient for you.
    And you get to claim precisely the opposite, no matter that you do so without any acclamation whatsoever...even more convenient.
    Last edited by j2k4; 06-15-2009 at 08:20 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
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    I was just saying what I thought Boab meant.

    I have nothing against someone getting rich, if its done through hard work and ethically (ie They done do it via Bank Robberies etc etc)

    I dont have a problem with people leaving a substantial inheritance for their Children.

    I do have a problem with families hording Billions for generations.

    Why should a family be "Idle Rich" now; when the family made their fortune in, as an example, The Slave Industry?
    Shit...these days it's considered racist if a honkie like me even denies complicity in the "slave question".

    It's what is considered to be a "disqualifying" blow in the arena of ideas.

    Anyhoo...

    How do you propose to qualify the idle rich for your morally-justified (read government-sanctioned) fleecing?

    How many tabloid appearances would be required, for instance?
    I'm pretty sure that I gave my opinions upon Inheritance Tax recently, but I honestly can't be bothered to look up the post..

    Suffice to say I think that there should be a substantial amount that is "Tax Free" (Far more than the UK has as a threashold now), to support the family of the Deceased.

    The rest should be very heavily taxed, with no loopholes. If they want to leave to avoid paying, let them.. but don't let them back in either (even to visit) until they've paid the Tax.

    Generally;

    The Rich often pay accountants and end up paying less than office cleaners, and then demand special consideration by local authorities for Policing etc. Frankly, the country would be better off without some of them.

    I encourage Michael Caine etc to live in the USA where they can have their "Special" status and pay the Private Sector there for the stuff they want for free here.
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    I'm all for closing loopholes, etc., but how do you even presume to appropriate money that does not belong to any but he/she who possesses it?

    No matter what you think of them personally, I mean?

    If the law says you cannot thieve it away from them, you choose government auspices?

    By the way, do you propose to mark the houses of the idle rich (I'm thinking Michael Caine, here) with some sort of bobby-not signage?

    I mean, ffs - actually, hang on a sec.......













    Would you be interested in swapping Mr. Caine for Ms. Streisand?

    We'll throw in the Brolin fellow for free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    Ah, I see.
    You get to claim that ABC et al are left biased while simultaneously claiming that Fox is "fair and balanced".
    How convenient for you.
    And you get to claim precisely the opposite, no matter that you do so without any acclamation whatsoever...even more convenient.
    I don't think there's a media organisation in the world that can be said to be completely free of bias.

    Having said that, though, CNN is kind of internationally respected as being fairly accurate, which certainly is in clocker's favour. I've no real bearing on the others, and I don't much follow the political bits in your media, including CNN, 'cos it was all sort of stupid since there was so much taking of sides last I bothered.

    Some people on the internets seem to think NBC are closest to center, though.

    Didn't Fox like label that Mark Foley guy as a democrat? That was kind of really bad, if so.

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