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    This has probably already been posted. But you say that socialism NEVER works... well that's wrong.

    Cause in theory, in a society where everyone is honest, it would work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatsgreat View Post
    This has probably already been posted. But you say that socialism NEVER works... well that's wrong.

    Cause in theory, in a society where everyone is honest, it would work.
    Socialism often works. Communism doesn't.

    Communes sometimes work, however I think you'll find that the ones that do have quite a high turnover of members outside the core.

    They aren't often "Real" communes either, as the members usually have some form of income from the outside to enable it to carry on.
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    Not that I intend to add anything substantial to this argument.. But remembered a quote by Winston Churchill :

    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

    Had to write an essay on the quote above..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saroman View Post
    Not that I intend to add anything substantial to this argument.. But remembered a quote by Winston Churchill :

    The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of blessings; the inherent virtue of socialism is the equal sharing of miseries.

    Had to write an essay on the quote above..
    Hmmm.

    A reasonable shot at a blessing, vs. bleak and monotonous misery.

    Just think:

    Sir Winnie, referring to misery as a virtue - nevermind why.

    I think he was onto something...

    Anyway, seems a simple enough choice.
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    Well...

    Personally I'm not for the extremes in any one ideology, be it communism or hyper-capitalism. Both ideologies show marked flaws...

    A touch of socialism never hurt anyone, on the contrary. It creates more buying power from the 'poor' which again stimulate the economy. It also help strengthen the trust among the people in society which again leads to more easy going money flow AKA stimulation of economy. IIRC there were a nobel price winning economist, a few years ago, accounting 10 percent (more or less) of a country's GDP to level of trust among the people in society.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS View Post
    Well...

    Personally I'm not for the extremes in any one ideology, be it communism or hyper-capitalism. Both ideologies show marked flaws...

    A touch of socialism never hurt anyone, on the contrary. It creates more buying power from the 'poor' which again stimulate the economy. It also help strengthen the trust among the people in society which again leads to more easy going money flow AKA stimulation of economy. IIRC there were a nobel price winning economist, a few years ago, accounting 10 percent (more or less) of a country's GDP to level of trust among the people in society.
    A touch of socialism, you say.

    If paving the way for the poor via increased purchasing power is to be a priority for liberals, why do they wallow in Walmart-hate?

    Just curious.

    How do you account for
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS View Post
    Well...

    Personally I'm not for the extremes in any one ideology, be it communism or hyper-capitalism. Both ideologies show marked flaws...

    A touch of socialism never hurt anyone, on the contrary. It creates more buying power from the 'poor' which again stimulate the economy. It also help strengthen the trust among the people in society which again leads to more easy going money flow AKA stimulation of economy. IIRC there were a nobel price winning economist, a few years ago, accounting 10 percent (more or less) of a country's GDP to level of trust among the people in society.
    A touch of socialism, you say.

    If paving the way for the poor via increased purchasing power is to be a priority for liberals, why do they wallow in Walmart-hate?

    Just curious.

    How do you account for
    You're stuck on labels again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ahctlucabbuS View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post

    A touch of socialism, you say.

    If paving the way for the poor via increased purchasing power is to be a priority for liberals, why do they wallow in Walmart-hate?

    Just curious.

    How do you account for
    You're stuck on labels again.
    No, I'm stuck on words.

    It's much better than grunting, you see.
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    Human nature is the acknowledged problem with all isms, which point I have made many, many (many) times.
    "Researchers have already cast much darkness on the subject, and if they continue their investigations, we shall soon know nothing at all about it."

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Human nature is the acknowledged problem with all isms, which point I have made many, many (many) times.
    Somebody has to suffer for any politically based 'ism to succeed.
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