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Thread: Why do popular sites prune inactive donators?

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    Cabalo's Avatar FileSharingTalker BT Rep: +24BT Rep +24BT Rep +24BT Rep +24BT Rep +24
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    Apart a few honourable exceptions, sites don't give a shit if you donated or not. They want your money and they want you to STFU about it. You get a few perks, but the most important one, the one that is about honour, they don't give you. and the pruning rule is one of the complains i could have.

    because if you donated to help keep the site alive, the site should look back at you and help you keep your account alive. It's the least, the very least they should do.
    Furthermore, they are not even being intelligent when disabling a donor. It's one less chance they have of seeing him donating again, after he already shown in the past he is willing to help the cause.

    sites (most of them) have no loyalty to their users (some call them members, and those are where share and care walk side by side).

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    Do not agree at all.

    We prune everyone, but if they know they are going to be away for 2 months or more, we have a staff message box, IRC channel etc, where they can come in and tell us, we may just promote them to VIP to avoid the pruning of their account, but if they dont tell us, how the fuck are we supposed to know.

    and sorry i dont see why we should code extra shit into a tracker to keep someone that donated 25p 3 years ago on the site.
    Last edited by stoi; 06-18-2009 at 11:40 PM.

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    If the donation doesn't seem sincere I wouldn't even give them donation status. 25p is pretty much a slap in your face. If someone is so tight on money they can't even donate $10, then they are in no position to be donating to a tracker in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoi View Post
    Do not agree at all.

    We prune everyone, but if they know they are going to be away for 2 months or more, we have a staff message box, IRC channel etc, where they can come in and tell us, we may just promote them to VIP to avoid the pruning of their account, but if they dont tell us, how the fuck are we supposed to know.

    and sorry i dont see why we should code extra shit into a tracker to keep someone that donated 25p 3 years ago on the site.
    you're taking it to the 25p extreme. i'm talking about a "regular" donation, that the site asks for.
    besides, usually when people lose internet access for some kind of reason, many times it's unexpected. so, going to a staff box and warning you is not the first thing they'll probably think of.

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    but if they are regular donators, surely they would login if they donated.

    btw i have just put the pruning up on BCG to 4 months unparked and 6 months parked.

    wont help the op much, but then we do have 122,000 referrals in the system atm, so he has every chance of getting back in.

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    you see, deep down. you're one of the good guys.
    all this donation talk has gotten me irritated, because once i was disabled from a tracker that i donated to, and was an excellent standing member during over 2 years, just because the owner saw i'm a member here. go figure.
    so, it's a lack of respect for the members and in my opinion what most trackers really care is to elevate their donors %. sad, but true.
    not saying that it's what happens to your tracker, as you've said before you paid for it for years over years.

    what i'm saying is that no matter how good of a member you are, and do everything by the book, if one day one staffer wakes up in a wrong mood, and goes disabling you for shit's sake, you go and think that it was a waste of time invest money and time in a tracker, as nothing of that will be taken into accounting.

    but once again, you're still one of those old school guys, with a positive philosophy toward membership. you have all my respect for that.

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    from a business perspective its really stupid.

    in other words... dont donate.
    Guess this country:
    -Child porn is legal to possess.
    -Home of lolicon & enjo kosai
    -Subways are littered with "Warning: Perverts lurking" signs
    -Has women only subway cars because of the high sexual assault rates
    -Cartoon child porn is a $6 billion industry
    -90% of child porn on the internet is from this country
    -Ranked equally with Cambodia and Ethiopia for prostitution

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    stoi, don't be so matter-of-fact; obviously, the guy has donated over 100$ to BCG and whatever you may say, that's a valid reason to take his request into consideration..
    whenever people agree with me, i always feel i must be wrong.

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    Well you don't know if the guy is grossly exaggerating because he feels cheated, I mean he is not reputable on this forum. He should have parked his account or informed staff. Sure you may lose your home internet without notice, but connection is so widely available you'd have a chance to park at some point anyways, and in his case he was only moving. Not sure the old limit on parked account but surely it's not less than the time it takes to move.

    I don't see stoi in the wrong, and don't see this as his responsibility. The OP was careless and should have taken precautions, but hopefully if and when he finds a referral he will be more careful with the account. The new pruning code is more than generous and won't leave an excuse for this happening again.
    Last edited by TrueSounds; 06-19-2009 at 10:00 AM.

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    Most sites do prune donators. But there are some that don't. iTS is an example.

    Want a better one? When you reach PU at UG or BG you can never get pruned.

    Sure, some sites are about the money, but like someone mentioned, these rules are known. C'mon, you're able to log in once every 2 months if you leave in a ''normal'' country, right?
    If you can't then you either have too many accounts at trackers and can't manage them all, or internet access is a real priviledge in your country.
    I'm back. The downside is that I'm also old now.

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