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    Quote Originally Posted by Snee View Post
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    I still don't agree with your constant "Obama = socialist" issues. Thinking of the "Little Red Book"-reference here (well, that'd make him communist really, but I know it's pretty much all the same to you, and we've had THAT discussion already).

    Which would be a good thing if he was one, as I quite like certain socialist ideals.

    Obama's economic policies, on the other hand, are increasingly Keynesian, which is liberal (and that's not socialism) through and through.

    If socialism included Keynesian economics, it'd be off-putting.

    As for the rest, well, it's creepy, and stupid, and very american. Don't really see what the big deal is, though. I assume society's goal is still to produce individuals that can think for themselves over there. Some singing shouldn't be able to change that.
    So, then-

    Do you suppose things would be better for you, where you are, if the U.S. adopted a socialist system?

    Do you think we might resist socialism as the mideast resists democracy?

    Do you think we should "bow to the inevitability" of socialism?

    BTW-

    I make the communist references for the reason of SHITHEAD's inclusion of unabashed communist content in his appointment of "czars", etc.

    I am not mixing apples and oranges, so just drop that idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clocker View Post
    That wasn't clever enough to warrant a double post.
    I wasn't aiming for clever, I was aiming for correct.

    Good morning, btw; I seem to have underslept.
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    Turns out this was back in February and was part of black history month and during the presentation other presidents were mentioned.

    Add to this the full script with the lyrics was sent home to the parents before the event and there were no complaints. So I now withdraw my concerns about the singing. This is no more indoctrination than learning the tale of Washington and the cherry tree.

    I still have a problem with a video of children being posted online without the full consent of all the parents, assuming not all the parents did agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    I make the communist references for the reason of SHITHEAD's inclusion of unabashed communist content in his appointment of "czars", etc.
    What does this even mean?

    Probably nothing, but thought I'd give you the opportunity to explain...
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    Snee believes I am overstating when I link SHITHEAD's appointments with the causes they have espoused over the years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Snee View Post

    I still don't agree with your constant "Obama = socialist" issues. Thinking of the "Little Red Book"-reference here (well, that'd make him communist really, but I know it's pretty much all the same to you, and we've had THAT discussion already).

    Which would be a good thing if he was one, as I quite like certain socialist ideals.

    Obama's economic policies, on the other hand, are increasingly Keynesian, which is liberal (and that's not socialism) through and through.

    If socialism included Keynesian economics, it'd be off-putting.

    As for the rest, well, it's creepy, and stupid, and very american. Don't really see what the big deal is, though. I assume society's goal is still to produce individuals that can think for themselves over there. Some singing shouldn't be able to change that.
    So, then-

    Do you suppose things would be better for you, where you are, if the U.S. adopted a socialist system?
    I'd expect no real difference, tbh. Your culture would still be what it is at its core. You'd just have a different market, and a different way of running health care and whatnot.

    Most likely actual socialism couldn't be adopted wholesale, and you'd have a social democrat system. Kinda like us.
    Do you think we might resist socialism as the mideast resists democracy?
    I'm sure you have issues enough with it for that to be possible as far as yourself is concerned. As for the US as a whole, I'd assume a notable majority in favour of it, for it to be adopted, so on a nation wide -scale, no.
    Do you think we should "bow to the inevitability" of socialism?
    Hardly. But it's a choice some societies make, and others don't. Inevitable it isn't.

    It's not dangerous either.

    BTW-

    I make the communist references for the reason of SHITHEAD's inclusion of unabashed communist content in his appointment of "czars", etc.

    I am not mixing apples and oranges, so just drop that idea.
    Fair enough.

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    Also, I don't even know wtf kind of acronym you've amusingly turned around there. Can't really be bothered to look it up, either.


    EDit: And for the record: Czars = not communist or socialist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snee View Post
    Also, I don't even know wtf kind of acronym you've amusingly turned around there. Can't really be bothered to look it up, either.
    Me, either...haven't the slightest idea what you're on about, there.

    Quote Originally Posted by Snee View Post
    : And for the record: Czars = not communist or socialist.
    Okay, for the record:

    I am well-aware the appellation "czar" has naught to do with communism or socialism, but is rather purely a Russian reference - however, "czar" is used by the administration itself, as well the media.

    Who am I to contradict.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4 View Post
    Me, either...haven't the slightest idea what you're on about, there.
    They don't mind the idea of indoctrination, Skiz, and as long as these types of things are arranged by SHITHEAD's surrogates, SHITHEAD maintains deniability.
    I make the communist references for the reason of SHITHEAD's inclusion of unabashed communist content in his appointment of "czars", etc.
    Snee believes I am overstating when I link SHITHEAD's appointments with the causes they have espoused over the years.


    Okay, for the record:

    I am well-aware the appellation "czar" has naught to do with communism or socialism, but is rather purely a Russian reference [...]
    Oki doki then.

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