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    Well there is no real formula to making a successful tracker but I have to agree with most of what has already been said.

    Trial and error FTW! Am one of those people who never thought gft was gonna make it past '09.The site lacked activity big time and it basically sucked.Things however changed perhaps with credits to their dedicated team of staffers.

    They tweaked things here and there,took the high road and refused to dish out invites on irc at a time when they really needed to and somehow this impressed some people to further dedicate their time and resources to the site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sez View Post
    Well there is no real formula to making a successful tracker but I have to agree with most of what has already been said.

    Trial and error FTW! Am one of those people who never thought gft was gonna make it past '09.The site lacked activity big time and it basically sucked.Things however changed perhaps with credits to their dedicated team of staffers.

    They tweaked things here and there,took the high road and refused to dish out invites on irc at a time when they really needed to and somehow this impressed some people to further dedicate their time and resources to the site.
    Prime example of "whatever works". This concept is closely related to how to survive donation-wise - do whatever works, as long as you're not being abusive about it and are truthfully non-profit. But this tends to be a more debatable issue - some people are staunch anti "pay 2 x" or "pay 4 this incentive" and are "donate purely for love of the tracker" purists, but a more seasoned and experienced torrenter with a greater understanding of trackers, will understand that a site has to do it *somehow* - one should not criticise x method of donation incentive as long as the site is not making profit from it and that it is not grossly abusive (over-successful).

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    Quote Originally Posted by megabyteme View Post
    It's easy...

    Phase 1: Collect Members
    Phase 2: ?
    Phase 3: Successful Tracker

    good one megabyteme ...

    Great topic , relevant for all the trackers.
    But there are several types of trackers , three of the most essential differences they [ open-signup trackers ] & [unopened-singup trackers ] & [ hush-hush trackers ] ..
    For each one of types of these sites there is the quandary if this subject ,
    Therefore this is unsolved subject yet
    My personal opinion , most of this issue, contingent upon the friends / users itself and less in the way of carrying on of the site (Social activity) (bouns) (free ratio) etc etc ..
    rabbit for ever

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    It should have some unique content
    Some different rewards for seeding bonus.ex. seedbox, access to invite forums,to have a privledge of making a request for a rare site etc(this will increase activity by a huge amount)

    1. Invites should be hard to get
    2.All new member should be in "demo" mode for first 3-4weeks. Dowload atleast 100Gb in first month with atleast 150 up(don't be easy) keep the limit decreasing by 10gbs every month.leave for at least 30gb's /month.Just prune the inactive accounts every week.
    3.Have a really good, helpful staff.

    Have some unlimited invites from some good high level trackers(c y there are huge number of power users on waffles and what)

    Don't give invites just upon donation( they should atleast be power users to gain invites by donating)
    Last edited by awaited; 11-07-2009 at 02:17 PM.

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    Things that draw me to a tracker( in no particular order).

    1.Design - pleasing to the eye and easy to browse.Their is one site that I would like to use a lot more but it's so hard to find anything and I don't have a lot of patience.
    2. Content - can't find it what's the point? Content is also closely tied to retention.
    3. Users - a few decent intelligent people that I actually want to hang out with as opposed to merely having to put up with. This relates to forums , irc and even torrent comments
    4. Staff - nice to everyone not just their buddies , although that part also applies to users
    5. Ratio - I don't know the ideal formula but if given the choice between site A and site B I'm almost always going for the site that gives me the most bang for my buck.
    6 . Feeling that I'm part of the site and not a disposable cog in the wheel. Gain my loyalty and I will go through hell and high water for you, forsaking all others and stick with you until the bitter end.

    Things I like but don't matter as much.

    1. Contests - never going to win one ,many are too specific to skills I( or a lot of people) don't possess ( design a banner/avatar ) , or only relate to people with conformining age and taste ( TV contests-answer Heroes,Dexter,Big Band Theory etc) or don't unfortunately with google reward true knowledge and only who has the best browsing skills.
    2. Arcade - I'm not interacting with anyone and not using the tracker so am I missing the point here?
    3. Userclasses - nice to be acknowledged even if you really aren't

    Things I don't particularity care about.
    1. Pretimes - I'm not a Mayfly, I don't live my life in one day so a few hours or days difference has no real meaning
    2 Speed - as long as it's not glacial. Like with pretimes what difference does it really make?
    3 Being elite.

    Quote Originally Posted by awaited View Post

    2.All new member should be in "demo" mode for first 3-4weeks. Dowload atleast 100Gb in first month with atleast 150 up(don't be easy) keep the limit decreasing by 10gbs every month.leave for at least 30gb's /month.Just prune the inactive accounts every week.

    Have some unlimited invites from some good high level trackers(c y there are huge number of power users on waffles and what)
    I have a hard cap of 60 Gb total bandwidth so although you may be encouraging a lot of pointless activity you are also negating a good number of committed users with that rule.
    People joining for invites are basically going in saying that they are more interested in other sites than the one they are getting the invites from.
    Last edited by IdolEyes787; 11-07-2009 at 02:50 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by awaited View Post

    2.All new member should be in "demo" mode for first 3-4weeks. Dowload atleast 100Gb in first month with atleast 150 up(don't be easy) keep the limit decreasing by 10gbs every month.leave for at least 30gb's /month.Just prune the inactive accounts every week.

    Have some unlimited invites from some good high level trackers(c y there are huge number of power users on waffles and what)
    I have a hard cap of 60 Gb total bandwidth so although you may be encouraging a lot of pointless activity you are also negating a good number of committed users with that rule.
    People joining for invites are basically going in saying that they are more interested in other sites than the one they are getting the invites from
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    I know that many users have this bandwidth cap, and many members come from countries where the affordable connection can't download 60gb's in a month (even if the computer is on 24/7). but as long as the upload is concerned you can always buy it from the shop in return of bonus points.Only thing which counts is ur activity(i kno that 100,150gb thing was a bit too much). this also draws another point that the users should be given a second chance if their intentions are to use to site, but they can't(due to bandwidth/speed), staff can get their limits off.again this will increase quality users.

    and about the invite thing it is just a type of illusion just to get more peers and activity until there is ctually a userbase who use it as their primary site.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
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    Things I don't particularity care about.

    3 Being elite.
    Blasphemy, I say. To the gallows with you then!
    I'm back. The downside is that I'm also old now.

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    The thing about an illusion are that sooner or later most people see through it and besides holding out a invite carrot is only going to attract the wrong type of rabbits er members.
    No one sets up a site looking for failure but resorting to gimmicks to gain members tells me something about the staff that isn't very flattering .

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Martinator View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
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    Things I don't particularity care about.

    3 Being elite.
    Blasphemy, I say. To the gallows with you then!
    Or packs neither.
    Last edited by IdolEyes787; 11-07-2009 at 03:41 PM. Reason: Automerged Doublepost

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdolEyes787 View Post
    The thing about an illusion are that sooner or later most people see through it and besides holding out a invite carrot is only going to attract the wrong type of rabbits er members.
    No one sets up a site looking for failure but resorting to gimmicks to gain members tells me something about the staff that isn't very flattering .


    so what about what, waffles? 30% of the new signups are just because of those threads.

    anyways just fuck that "activity enhancer"we will do better without it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by awaited View Post



    so what about what, waffles? 30% of the new signups are just because of those threads.

    anyways just fuck that "activity enhancer"we will do better without it.
    Show me the statics and while you're at it show me how many of those people getting want they want actually continue to contribute to the site .
    You can get anyone to do anything given the right incentive but some incentives don't translate very well to loyalty is all that I'm saying.

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