Ways To Catch Pedophiles

[Mr. Blunt]

But of course, there may be vids that SHOW cp even tho desciption and filename is off. The solution?
Unchangeable descritions.

What about those descriptions that NEED to be changed. We can't have files with fake descriptions running around the FT Network. Files claiming not to be child porn, yet they still are.

Look, will you please stop acting all "omg omg kill dem sick b@stards" like? It bores me already.

If you don't enter threads like this you won't see our discussions. Don't be a stupid ass and use your head.

What about lesbeans?

And what about them? Don't post unless you have something releated to the discussion. This is how we get off topic.

The only way is to download that sick stuff and create a blacklist from all the people who download that crap from you.

Can I watch you be sent to jail? Your SPREADING this shit when you share it. It's illegal to share this content. They ain't going to believe you that your trying to help the children when your spreading this shit. How good will a blacklist do anyway? IP addresses change.

Would anyone like it if every single room in there house had a live cam connected to a government computer and tracking devices on every single person. No you wouldn't. But it would practically stop all child abuse. More extreme than a keylogger but the same principle.

We can't be denied freedoms because a very small amount of people abuse them.

Nicely put.

[SlimShady]

It was just an idea (and I think the only way) I'm not saying I will do it (NEVER&#33.
I know it's illegal (duh&#33. If you have a better idea, post it!

[true_neo]

Originally posted by Mr. Blunt@24 October 2003 - 02:45

But of course, there may be vids that SHOW cp even tho desciption and filename is off. The solution?
Unchangeable descritions.

What about those descriptions that NEED to be changed. We can't have files with fake descriptions running around the FT Network. Files claiming not to be child porn, yet they still are.

The solution for that would be:
If we could get the hashing method eMule uses, then we could possibly also have locked descriptions.
This can then lead to a "fake warning system", where ppl can, when searcing for a file, place a tag on the file saying its fake, cp, bestiality or whatever.
Then in the program, there could be a message popping up saying "This file is [whatever it is that we dont want here]. You will be unable to download this file"

That way we can rid ourselves of cp. Of course, none of this is poss for KLK++ unless we get sum source code and a new hashing system.

[Switeck]

Originally posted by true_neo+24 October 2003 - 11:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (true_neo @ 24 October 2003 - 11:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Mr. Blunt@24 October 2003 - 02:45

But of course, there may be vids that SHOW cp even tho desciption and filename is off. The solution?
Unchangeable descritions.

What about those descriptions that NEED to be changed. We can&#39;t have files with fake descriptions running around the FT Network. Files claiming not to be child porn, yet they still are.

The solution for that would be:
If we could get the hashing method eMule uses, then we could possibly also have locked descriptions.
This can then lead to a "fake warning system", where ppl can, when searcing for a file, place a tag on the file saying its fake, cp, bestiality or whatever.
Then in the program, there could be a message popping up saying "This file is [whatever it is that we dont want here]. You will be unable to download this file"

That way we can rid ourselves of cp. Of course, none of this is poss for KLK++ unless we get sum source code and a new hashing system. [/b][/quote]
...AND allow RIAA/MPAA/BSA to take over -- because they will say if you CAN block cp then you SHOULD ALSO block illegal sharing of copyrighted files.

[REDZULU2003]

Ignore the RIAA and the like.

I like the last idea about the hash system.

The only way I see thus far is unthinkable....I dont want this to be the answer, this is just ideas.

#1 K-lite or new P2P doesnt allow Pictures and Videos [This is mad I know, JUST IDEA].

#2 K-lite or new P2P makes a team of a few individuals interested in helping out with this./.they DL cp vids, but they dont dowload the whole thing, just some to get a IP add from the K-Sig software.

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If we were to-do #2 we would not DL the whooe file, infact it would be hardly any.
Just some so to pinpoint an IP.

After we get a Black list we can add them to PG....we all use PG right??? than it blocks these cunts...infact k-lite has its own blocklist in it against the RIAA, these IPS could be added to that so the Pedos in theory cant do anything on the network, to those with these updates.

These guys can also be reported as well.

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The Black List seems a good option, but I would gather its illegal to DL even a small file of this stuff, even tho it aint been viewed.
Also the minor problem is the IP adds change over time, but thats a small problem, if this worked it would be worth it.

IMHO its either #2 or we do summut extreme to the K-lite system or make our own network to put measures in......either way we need to get researching and post ideas.

What ya think of myn???

[Person]

Altough I agree cp is bad & shouldn&#39;t be distributed around p2p it is

BUT I think the logging system is a very bad idea as

1) Other people have already said if you can log one thing you can log it all.

2) What do you define as cp, is it nude images of preteens, under 18s, under 16s, or does something have to be happening?

3) What if a teenager was downloading underage NOT cp, then should they go to jail because they wanted to see somebody their own age having sex, playing around?

4) I know it is unlikely but I am sure some people with these bad cp files will have gotten them by accident

5) Would you really want to risk being accused of cp yourself? As is some REAL government agency or whatever was already logging looking for people downloading this cp then you could be accused of a pedo & they would probably laugh at you if you said &#39;I was making a citizens arrest&#39; etc.

6) Have you ever wondered what these disturbed people may be doing if they did not have p2p to get their cp, underage porn or whatever? As it has been suggested with porn they might be out raping & although some have said well they will want that &#39;rush&#39; oneday I doubt this is the truth.

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What can we do as a society?

1) Make counselling available freely to people who find themselves attracted to children. These people could freely go to these councellers and discuss, try to make them see WHY they are attracted to children as I have been told that around 90% of the time these people were abused as children themselves. (this does not mean to say if you were abused you will become an abuser).

2) ?

----These views are not necessarily mine but are more so views read from others from other forums/ discussions etc----

[Neo 721]

This all sounds like a lost cause, not just becuase I happen to be a pesimist. But there little point is devising ways to boycott something that is too public and used by millions of people, say a logging method was found and there was a fay to find them, but if they could find cp and not be tracked with current version of Kazaa they are using they will just keep it. Unfortunatly the whole CP thing does not eminate from P2P networks (notice when these incidents are reported on the news file sharing is never mentioned). The only way you could see how bad the situation is would be to recall all files that are being shared on the entire network then you would see.

[ScotchGuy]

Everyone&#39;s ideas to stop pedophiles are terrible. Just stop trying, there&#39;s no way to stop it. Remember when your Kindergarten teachers said you made a difference, and you could do whatever you wanted? BULLSHIT. Take this situation: A single person can&#39;t do anything, they only people who can actually track this and take the perpetrator to court is people working for the law force.

The Knife Thrower makes good sense. Listen to him, and give up. Wait for the government to do something, as sad as it may be you really can&#39;t control it without doing something illegal yourself.

This reason for example won&#39;t work because entering a search for something related to kiddy porn doesn&#39;t mean they will download it. You guys should really have some common sense and a minor understanding of the way the law works before you come up with more useless and non-workable ideas.

[Mr. Blunt]

Originally posted by Mr. Blunt@23 October 2003 - 17:45
How good will a blacklist do anyway? IP addresses change.

In responce to REDZULU2003&#39;s post about adding IPs to the blocked ranges.

May i quote my self again...

[splithead04]

the fact that the media is trying to demonize p2p by labeling it a free for all for sick little shits who like child porn is a last ditch effort to try and turn the public against it by playing upon thier fears, because their your a theif campaign didnt work. infact it accomplished exactly the oppisite&#33; it pissed everyone off to point of not only did they stop buying cd&#39;s but we still continue to share&#33; so now they want to make us seem like a bunch of out of control pervs who deserve to be imprisoned&#33; i for one have never downloaded nor shared any form of porn, let alone child porn, and i would bet that most of us haven&#39;t. furthermore i would like to go on record as saying that if you are downloading child porn or sharing it, or condoning it in any way&#33; you are a sick little shit who will be dealt with in a way you will find to be not to your liking&#33;