Do You Read Whilst You Take A Shit? I Do!

[hobbes]

It's a well known fact that meat is the most difficult of all foods to break up during the digestive process - a hamburger can take over a week to be fully digested and processed. It follows that faeces containing meat by-products will not (pardon the phrasing) slip out so easily.

In any case, I base my statement on real-life observations. I know many vegetarians, and it never takes them more than a minute to defecate. It takes considerably longer of the overwhelming majority for meat-eaters. You'll note that the two veggies in the thread have agreed.


With regards to 'toilet time' - I'd prefer to sit in front of a warm fire on my nice soft rug to read, rather than perching on the crapper, thank you so much.

Lamsey,

Sorry but your statement makes no sense if you have any training in physiology. A large portion of your vegetable matter (the plant cell wall- celluose) is impossible to break down by the human digestive tract. This is why herbivores eat grass, they can (with the help of gastric and small bowel bacteria) digest it and turn it into usable fuel. We then, logically, eat herbivores because we have the digestive enzymes available to make use of their nutrients. So while I am making the most of what I eat by being able to break it down and absorb it, you are only getting a fraction of the mass you eat and are passing the rest on as large bulky stools. You likely have excessive gas, as the colonic bacteria (you do not absorb nutrients in the colon) can breakdown cellulose and the end-product is a gas.

Digestabilty and defecabilty are not related. Digestion occurs in the small bowel, excretion occurs in the large bowel (colon).

A sample size of 2 does not a fact make, it is anecdotal. I certainly have no problems in my excretory capacity and I eat a meat heavy diet. Are you challenging me to a "poop off"?

As for "quiet time", you are still too young to realize that you cannot get this in front of the fire with 6 children talking to you at once. Sure, you will love your kids, but we all need a break every now and then.

[Lamsey]

OK Hobbes, I see your point, however I'd like to point out that the sample size is closer to around 10 veggies and 10 meateaters that I know well enough to make observations of this sort on - and without exception, my theory holds.

Perhaps it is a difference of diets with relation to country.



However, it is rather patronising to tell someone they are too young to appreciate the need for "quiet time" - give me a break. Are you implying you never needed to be alone when you were young - away from parents, siblings, friends on the phone, commitments such as study, part-time work, etc.?

[protak]

What a shitty f***ing topic!! Shampoo bottles, conditioner, whatever's under the sink, the newspaper if I'm already in the process before I go.... I wonder how much time (on average), a person spend's in the john over the course of there life? Probably doubles if YOU read...

[DarthInsinuate]

it usually takes me 10 minutes to do my business, it takes 15-20 minutes if i have something good to read. At the moment (no i'm not logged on and making logs) i'm reading the highway code.
I find the toilet a very productive place, i get a lot of meditation done while my sphincter relaxes

[hobbes]

Originally posted by Lamsey@13 November 2003 - 00:27
OK Hobbes, I see your point, however I'd like to point out that the sample size is closer to around 10 veggies and 10 meateaters that I know well enough to make observations of this sort on - and without exception, my theory holds.

Perhaps it is a difference of diets with relation to country.



However, it is rather patronising to tell someone they are too young to appreciate the need for "quiet time" - give me a break. Are you implying you never needed to be alone when you were young - away from parents, siblings, friends on the phone, commitments such as study, part-time work, etc.?

Well, the "quiet time" part to my first post was to add a little levity to it, as I wanted to make my point, but I also wanted to keep it light hearted.

I do honestly believe that you will look back and smile wryly to yourself at what I have said.

As usual, I was not attempting to be mean spirited, just having some fun.

[Spider_dude]

reading is only required at the most important times, i.e constipation (you have a lot of time on your hands, fire arsre (something to take the pain away) and diaarheoa (self explanitory).


and to the doubters diarrheoa and fire arse aren't the same thing.

[Evil Gemini]

I take my laptop in the toilet and play GTA vice city. (jk jk)

Only if i had wireless lan then i will never have to part from the forum

[BILLY-THE-FISH]

Originally posted by DarthInsinuate@13 November 2003 - 00:41
it usually takes me 10 minutes to do my business, it takes 15-20 minutes if i have something good to read. At the moment (no i'm not logged on and making logs) i'm reading the highway code.
I find the toilet a very productive place, i get a lot of meditation done while my sphincter relaxes

I know, sometimes I spend double the amount of time i need to take just because I wanted to finish reading something interesting!
Mind you I think it is possibly the most comfortable seat in the house maybe I should get a portable toilet that I could maybe wheel out to the lounge in front of the fire and T.V.!!!

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by neattairoski@13 November 2003 - 01:05
I take my laptop in the toilet and play GTA vice city. (jk jk)

Only if i had wireless lan then i will never have to part from the forum 

technically i COULD play counterstrike online and still able to take a crap at the same time but i hate my shit molecules on my laptop LOL

besides i can't take a crap while i play i'd be too distracted to shit...

[j2k4]

Originally posted by hobbes@12 November 2003 - 19:21

It's a well known fact that meat is the most difficult of all foods to break up during the digestive process - a hamburger can take over a week to be fully digested and processed. It follows that faeces containing meat by-products will not (pardon the phrasing) slip out so easily.

In any case, I base my statement on real-life observations. I know many vegetarians, and it never takes them more than a minute to defecate. It takes considerably longer of the overwhelming majority for meat-eaters. You'll note that the two veggies in the thread have agreed.


With regards to 'toilet time' - I'd prefer to sit in front of a warm fire on my nice soft rug to read, rather than perching on the crapper, thank you so much.

Lamsey,

Sorry but your statement makes no sense if you have any training in physiology. A large portion of your vegetable matter (the plant cell wall- celluose) is impossible to break down by the human digestive tract. This is why herbivores eat grass, they can (with the help of gastric and small bowel bacteria) digest it and turn it into usable fuel. We then, logically, eat herbivores because we have the digestive enzymes available to make use of their nutrients. So while I am making the most of what I eat by being able to break it down and absorb it, you are only getting a fraction of the mass you eat and are passing the rest on as large bulky stools. You likely have excessive gas, as the colonic bacteria (you do not absorb nutrients in the colon) can breakdown cellulose and the end-product is a gas.

Digestabilty and defecabilty are not related. Digestion occurs in the small bowel, excretion occurs in the large bowel (colon).

A sample size of 2 does not a fact make, it is anecdotal. I certainly have no problems in my excretory capacity and I eat a meat heavy diet. Are you challenging me to a "poop off"?

As for "quiet time", you are still too young to realize that you cannot get this in front of the fire with 6 children talking to you at once. Sure, you will love your kids, but we all need a break every now and then.

I think it is clear, from this exchange, that hobbes knows his shit, as does lamsey.

As to adjunct bathroom activities:

Reading is only the most common of these; I have rebuilt both my electric razor and my electric toothbrush while seated.

But only after a meal of vegetables.