I was just winding you up a bit and decided to go after HB since you mentioned him specifically. The comment about him being transformed by technology comes from the many modern techniques used to transform stars beyond reality. There was grounding in my post, I just decided to take it over-the-top so you wouldn't mistake me for being serious.
I don't actually have anything valuable to add to the thread, so I'll take a seat, and see if anyone else has anything interesting to say...
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