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[tesco]

Originally posted by shn@19 July 2004 - 17:46

linux?

which one?

[shn]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004+19 July 2004 - 17:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ROSSCO_2004 @ 19 July 2004 - 17:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-shn@19 July 2004 - 17:46

linux?

which one? [/b][/quote]
Why.

Rule of thumb when running *nix. Never tell people what your running.

If you want to know then grab something like nmap and do an os fingerprint bud.

Now with seeing your screenshot I don&#39;t even have to ask what version of windows you have do I?

[asmithz]

Originally posted by shn+21 July 2004 - 01:59--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 21 July 2004 - 01:59)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@19 July 2004 - 17:46
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@19 July 2004 - 17:46

linux?

which one?

Why.

Rule of thumb when running *nix. Never tell people what your running.

If you want to know then grab something like nmap and do an os fingerprint bud.

Now with seeing your screenshot I don&#39;t even have to ask what version of windows you have do I? [/b][/quote]
Ahh, thats hash

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by shn+21 July 2004 - 05:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn &#064; 21 July 2004 - 05:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@19 July 2004 - 17:46
<!--QuoteBegin-shn

@19 July 2004 - 17:46

linux?

which one?

Why.

Rule of thumb when running *nix. Never tell people what your running.

If you want to know then grab something like nmap and do an os fingerprint bud.

Now with seeing your screenshot I don&#39;t even have to ask what version of windows you have do I? [/b][/quote]
What can he possibly do if he knows? And here I am thinking that OS suppose to be more secure the windows..



Judging from the "computers icon" it is Windows XP. Weather it is Home or Pro depends on whos running it. (I say pro)

[shn]

Originally posted by Ariel_001+21 July 2004 - 22:44--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Ariel_001 @ 21 July 2004 - 22:44)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Originally posted by shn@21 July 2004 - 05:52

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@19 July 2004 - 17:46
<!--QuoteBegin-shn

@19 July 2004 - 17:46

linux?

which one?

Why.

Rule of thumb when running *nix. Never tell people what your running.

If you want to know then grab something like nmap and do an os fingerprint bud.

Now with seeing your screenshot I don&#39;t even have to ask what version of windows you have do I?

What can he possibly do if he knows? And here I am thinking that OS suppose to be more secure the windows.. [/b][/quote]
Nothing is secure if the person in charge in securing it does not do it adequately. Linux is by far the most targeted o.s. because most of the poeple that hack it want a challenge or that&#39;s just the o.s. of choice they desire to compromise.

Windows boxes are more like drones, easy to own at times and more so the compromise of thoose boxes on a network lead to the ultimate demise of some Linux o.s. that probably powers it all to begin with.

If you think you can just install *nix and it be secure by default then you go ahead and do that because your living a myth. Can Windows even be anywhere near remotely secure if you installed it several months ago and never installed a single update or made an attempt to secure your own network?

I think we both know the answer to that.

[Ariel_001]

Originally posted by shn@22 July 2004 - 00:54
Nothing is secure if the person in charge in securing it does not do it adequately.....

ah, good post. You make a good point there.

Personally I believe the problem with computer security today is people are just to trusting and ignorant about it. Grandma runs Windows XP. No firewall/antivirus or any updating and has broadband. You can kind of see what going to happend after a while..

(To be fair with her it not her fault. She grew up in an age where networks were limited to just some small room and most home computer were just an island on there own.)

[tesco]

ya, xp pro, so what.

you know my OS, u gonna hack me now?

Nothing is secure if the person in charge in securing it does not do it adequately. Linux is by far the most targeted o.s. because most of the poeple that hack it want a challenge or that&#39;s just the o.s. of choice they desire to compromise.

Windows boxes are more like drones, easy to own at times and more so the compromise of thoose boxes on a network lead to the ultimate demise of some Linux o.s. that probably powers it all to begin with.

If you think you can just install *nix and it be secure by default then you go ahead and do that because your living a myth. Can Windows even be anywhere near remotely secure if you installed it several months ago and never installed a single update or made an attempt to secure your own network?

I think we both know the answer to that.

That is a very good point.



I really don&#39;t care cuase i got no need to have my comp secure. If it gets hacked, first of al there is nothing to find (if that&#39;s why they&#39;re hacking it) second if i get a virus or some other attack (not sure how it all works so sorry for the lack of terms) then i just format and lose absolutely nothing, wait for them to hack again.


btw, ii was wondering a few days ago when i asked what os it was, why the black at the top of the network status window? does it say the OS there or is there some other info?

[shn]

Originally posted by ROSSCO_2004@21 July 2004 - 23:13
ya, xp pro, so what.

you know my OS, u gonna hack me now?

Nothing is secure if the person in charge in securing it does not do it adequately. Linux is by far the most targeted o.s. because most of the poeple that hack it want a challenge or that&#39;s just the o.s. of choice they desire to compromise.

Windows boxes are more like drones, easy to own at times and more so the compromise of thoose boxes on a network lead to the ultimate demise of some Linux o.s. that probably powers it all to begin with.

If you think you can just install *nix and it be secure by default then you go ahead and do that because your living a myth. Can Windows even be anywhere near remotely secure if you installed it several months ago and never installed a single update or made an attempt to secure your own network?

I think we both know the answer to that.

That is a very good point.



I really don&#39;t care cuase i got no need to have my comp secure. If it gets hacked, first of al there is nothing to find (if that&#39;s why they&#39;re hacking it) second if i get a virus or some other attack (not sure how it all works so sorry for the lack of terms) then i just format and lose absolutely nothing, wait for them to hack again.


btw, ii was wondering a few days ago when i asked what os it was, why the black at the top of the network status window? does it say the OS there or is there some other info?

It has my network device name which is very important in Linux. I have more than one but anyway that&#39;s a different story. What goes on with Windows is more behind the scenes. Useful apps in Linux display things like kernel versions, network device names, usernames, etc.

Sometimes it&#39;s ok to post screenshots and stuff with info like that in it if you want your business out there like that. You just never know who might be watching.

Btw, alot of attacks now are based around denial of service. Get as many boxes as you cand get them all to flood a particular host. If it was just for that one pupose of your machine out of the so other many to do that and just that then it fit it&#39;s purpose.

By the time you find out, the job has already been done so.........

[tesco]

Originally posted by shn+22 July 2004 - 00:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (shn @ 22 July 2004 - 00:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-ROSSCO_2004@21 July 2004 - 23:13
ya, xp pro, so what.

you know my OS, u gonna hack me now?

Nothing is secure if the person in charge in securing it does not do it adequately. Linux is by far the most targeted o.s. because most of the poeple that hack it want a challenge or that&#39;s just the o.s. of choice they desire to compromise.

Windows boxes are more like drones, easy to own at times and more so the compromise of thoose boxes on a network lead to the ultimate demise of some Linux o.s. that probably powers it all to begin with.

If you think you can just install *nix and it be secure by default then you go ahead and do that because your living a myth. Can Windows even be anywhere near remotely secure if you installed it several months ago and never installed a single update or made an attempt to secure your own network?

I think we both know the answer to that.

That is a very good point.



I really don&#39;t care cuase i got no need to have my comp secure. If it gets hacked, first of al there is nothing to find (if that&#39;s why they&#39;re hacking it) second if i get a virus or some other attack (not sure how it all works so sorry for the lack of terms) then i just format and lose absolutely nothing, wait for them to hack again.


btw, ii was wondering a few days ago when i asked what os it was, why the black at the top of the network status window? does it say the OS there or is there some other info?

It has my network device name which is very important in Linux. I have more than one but anyway that&#39;s a different story. What goes on with Windows is more behind the scenes. Useful apps in Linux display things like kernel versions, network device names, usernames, etc.

Sometimes it&#39;s ok to post screenshots and stuff with info like that in it if you want your business out there like that. You just never know who might be watching.

Btw, alot of attacks now are based around denial of service. Get as many boxes as you cand get them all to flood a particular host. If it was just for that one pupose of your machine out of the so other many to do that and just that then it fit it&#39;s purpose.

By the time you find out, the job has already been done so......... [/b][/quote]
*shrugs*

I tried doing a emulation to run linux in once with vmware or something like that and i remember it created a bunch of virtual network connections and stuff with wierd names and shit i guess that&#39;s what all of linux is like.

gotta get a bigger hard drive, then ill start attempting to learn some "*nix* stuff.