Originally Posted by l_p_4_7Any working video clips of this?The detroit fans also took offence to the Pacers Forward turned R&B star, pelting his position with objects and full cups of beer. At this point Artest, accompanied by Stephen Jackson took to the stands to deal out some of their own justice to the unruly fans, Artest managing to connect with the beer thrower before a scuffle brought them under some control and delivered artest back to the court with a ripped singlet to show for his troubles.
All video clips on the site appear to be working.Originally Posted by Samurai
I have to 18mb wmv file which is definately worth a download for the slo-mo comentatory/analysis. However, I'm also currently downloading the 80mb DivX version for extra high definition brawlage!
90% done.
where you getting the 80MB file from?Originally Posted by l_p_4_7
edit* never mind found it
Last edited by Samurai; 11-22-2004 at 04:10 AM.
Where did you find this site? Google does not even know about it.Originally Posted by l_p_4_7
working links
http://mfile.akamai.com/12942/wmv/vo...35750.200k.asx
http://media.holla-front.com/nbafight.wmv
BTW i think Wallace should have been suspended for a much longer time, I believe he started it all by overreacting
Last edited by jetje; 11-22-2004 at 08:23 PM.
I believe Wallace should be suspended for they already gave him, 6 games.Originally Posted by jetje
He "did not start it all".
He did his thing, the fans did theirs.
I haven't seen it yet but the impression I get is that the situation was diffused and Ron Artest laid on the scorers table.
Fans started it back up. The Pacers reacted to it badly.
Count them out of the play offs btw.
EDit: ...and thanks for the links, I'll dl once I get home. Much appreciated.
Last edited by Busyman; 11-22-2004 at 08:53 PM.
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Should be or should not be suspended ?Originally Posted by Busyman
Either way, Artest seemed to do alot of backing away from Ben Wallace, but jumps up into the stands over a cup ? Hope he doesn't win the appeal of his suspension, and hope everyone enjoys his "record" when its released. He needs the income
What will be the demand in the civil law suit from the guy that got knocked down. As in how many dollars
Busyman, if Wallace did react a bit more controlled in the 1st place nothing of this all would have been happened at all. At least as i see it, the charge from Artest wasn't that hard
I agree that Wallace went a bit too far on what looked like a hard but legal foul. He was obviously venting, at in sports terms, up to that point, Artest had done nothing wrong.
The going into the stands thing though....
Had he gone after the guy who actually hit him with the cup, it still would not be excusable, but at least more understandable. Beating on an innocent guy was despicable. Everything after that is a result of what happens when you have no security.
American sports fans have joined the rest of the world in terms of loutishness. Used to be people would taunt, but now because of the extrememly high prices for tickets it seems certain types of fans think that entitles them to act however they want. This goes on in all 4 major sports in the US, but the NBA is the only one where fans sit literally right next to the teams. If you want to be the "Biggest team sport on the planet" as the NBA does, and want to make all that money off of fans, then pay for the security.
Another thing about American sports: Owners pocket a lot of revenue but don't put money into important areas, such as security, untill something like this happens.
I actually feel bad for Ron Artest, obviously a talented but troubled human. It must have been hard to lie down after getting a shot like that to the face from Wallace, but somewhere in those millions he makes a year there HAS to be that part that says "I will not go into the stands".
I fully blame the fans culture for this, thinking it is okay to get involved in what happens on the court. But our athletes for all they make come off as spoiled.
Gimme 8 million a year and you can douse me with beer every day.
I also think Wallace should take a bit more responsibility for this whole thing, but he is a world champion, why should he?
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