The World

**Everose** · 11-25-2004, 02:55 PM

I somehow knew you would say that. But of course, had to test to see if you were up to par.

**hobbes** · 11-25-2004, 04:19 PM

JP you missed the mark on this one and it was right up your alley.

Take the kids out camping for a week in the deep woods. Enjoy suffering in the excessive cold/heat because you don't have appropriate walls to insulate you. Or perhaps a stiff breeze will simply blow your temporary domicile away.

You can spend your time revelling in the naturalistic joy of swatting at mosquitos and horse flies. Unless, of course, you spray man made chemicals on your skin to repel them.

Perhaps you can play "catch" with a group of hornets you didn't see, or that pesky bear that was attracted by your supplies.

Did little JP forget to seal up the food properly 3 days ago, well look at all those maggots won't you.

You will have plenty of time to sit and talk for hours with your loved ones, as you huddle together, picking lice and ticks off one another.

Nature offers no kindness and accepts no apologies.

Yes JP, nature can be beautiful, but only when you are observing her from a safe distance. I would recommend from your comfortable chair, in a temperature controlled, pest-free environment, with a tidy bottle of apple in your hand.

After a few such apples, one might begin to fantasize about the warm sunset in front of you. Maudlin thoughts might being to bloom, thoughts about a time when man and nature snuggled tightly together in blissful harmony.

You missed the call JP, this should have been titled:

Mother Nature: A bit h4r5h, is she not?

**Virtualbody1234** · 11-25-2004, 04:59 PM

Steel, concrete and even medicine and chemicals are all part of nature too.

In fact I would like for someone to find something that isn't from nature.

Who's to decide what's beautiful and what's ugly?

**Barbarossa** · 11-25-2004, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Virtualbody1234

Who's to decide what's beautiful and what's ugly?

Poll, anyone?

**hobbes** · 11-25-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by JPaul

hobbes

The fact of nature being harsh makes her no less beautiful. Makes her wonders no less staggering. Your points merely go to illustrate how we have removed ourselves from her. The fact that we need all of the artificialities you describe only serves to prove that we place walls between ourselves and her.

Yes, we do so for a damn good reason. The bitch is harsh. Were she not harsh, we would have done none of this.

Maggots consuming a rotting carass as flies swarm above and putrification fills the air is not beautiful.

**Virtualbody1234** · 11-25-2004, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by JPaul

Virtualstuff

Steel and concrete are not part of nature. They are things we have created to shield ourselves from it. To build our ugliness and see that, rather than the awesome and frightening beauty all around us.

I disagree. We as human beings are part of nature and the materials we use are also part of nature. How is it possible for steel and concrete not to be part of nature?