Philippines abolishes the death penalty

[calm2chaos]

A death penalty for terrorist makes no sense as it gives them what they want... Martrydom. You want to deter terrorist, don't punish them. Punish there families. There mothers, fathers wives and children... Yes it is barbarick, and yes it would cut down on terrorist. You have to make the price of their convictions so high that nobody wants to pay it. I have heard that this tactic has actually been used by a number of countries in the past. There were good reason not many groups fucked with the russians back in the day.... Course it's not something you advertise. But the people that your detering hear and know about it. So the question gets put to them. Is blowing up a building full of innocent people worth your son, daughter or wife? If the answer is no.. Problem solved.. If the answer is yes then your back to were you started from and have lost no ground

[Mr JP Fugley]

A death penalty for terrorist makes no sense as it gives them what they want... Martrydom. You want to deter terrorist, don't punish them. Punish there families. There mothers, fathers wives and children... Yes it is barbarick, and yes it would cut down on terrorist. You have to make the price of their convictions so high that nobody wants to pay it. I have heard that this tactic has actually been used by a number of countries in the past. There were good reason not many groups fucked with the russians back in the day.... Course it's not something you advertise. But the people that your detering hear and know about it. So the question gets put to them. Is blowing up a building full of innocent people worth your son, daughter or wife? If the answer is no.. Problem solved.. If the answer is yes then your back to were you started from and have lost no ground

Genious.

[vidcc]

yes it's well known that countries with no death penalty have never been targets for terrorists. And obviously all terrorist are suicidal because they all blow themselves up and never do it "remotely". Indeed there will be no more terrorist activities in the phils.....if only they had done this sooner

But then I am not looking for a deterrent with the death penalty, nor do I think it is a deterent, jail time certainly isn't....

I am fine with peoples belief that the death penalty is wrong morally and I respect that more than those in my country that claim to be christians and support it, even though they agree with me.
However it cannot be determined one way or the other if death or jail are deterents. IMO neither is when it comes to the level of terrorism and so I am happy to send them on their way.
It comes down to which is the harshest punishment. I will go with the one that gives me satisfaction.

[peat moss]

Why are my threads called the worst ever ? Whole purpose of the Drawing Room is on topic discussion ,with that in mind could you see this in the evening news about President Bush ?


Arroyo signed the law shortly after returning to the presidential palace from a hospital where she was taken late Thursday suffering from acute diarrhea.


Kinda explains it eh .

[Mr JP Fugley]

The point is not how punishment makes us feel, it is how it makes the offender feel. If you do it to make yourself feel better then it's not punishment it's revenge.

In these things we must always look at the situation thro' the eyes of the offender. Is the death penalty a punishment? No, it isn't, they do not fear it as they look forward to being martyred and take their place in heaven. They do not suffer as it is done humanely. Therefore it is not a punishment, either psychologically or physically, whether they were a suicide bomber or not.

If however you make them spend the rest of their life locked up, away from their own, to eventually die an inglorious death, that is sublime punishment for that type of person.

So even the punishment argument is flawed.

[vidcc]

I'm fine calling it revenge then....whatever it's called makes no difference to me. And I don't care how it makes them feel, I care how it makes me feel.

I don't care if someone thinks they will have an afterlife, they are wrong and I will have the satisfaction of knowing they are gone and that is it for them.

And if some want to die...good riddance.

Oh and bury them in a way that is against their religion if they have any

[Mr JP Fugley]

I'm fine calling it revenge then....whatever it's called makes no difference to me. And I don't care how it makes them feel, I care how it makes me feel.

And if some want to die...good riddance.

Oh and bury them in a way that is against their religion if they have any

Exactly.