Questions for Kermit ...

[Ava Estelle]

OK, SnnY, I'll ask again, seeing as you read and answer only that which suits you.

First off you said that you knew for a FACT that nothing could be proven.

You later said you were open to the possibility of there either being or not being a god.

This is a contradiction, if you know for a FACT that something can't be proven you can't be open to the possibility that it can be.

I also asked what the atheist dogma was you disapproved of, and the reason I asked was because an atheist would say he\she didn't believe in god, as you did. You added the rider that you didn't believe because you had seen no proof, as an atheist would. You call atheism a 'religion' and say you see no difference between the two. But if atheism is a religion, so is agnosticism.

You say you don't believe in anything, but you do, you believe there's a possibility that god exists, and you believe there's a possibility that one doesn't. You just try to word it in such a way as to make you sound superior to atheists.

[GepperRankins]

anyway, it shouldn't be my job to prove there is no god. it should be your job to prove there is

How does that work then. As I understand it the default position in western society for many years was the belief in a God. It quite possibly still is.

the default indoctrination has been a belief in god.

the default position would be not knowing if it weren't for this education. so it should be your job to sway me toward your position of believing, not my job to sway you into unbelieving

[Mr JP Fugley]

i understand the whole 10th dimension thing and infinity and shizzle.

[Mr JP Fugley]

OK, SnnY, I'll ask again, seeing as you read and answer only that which suits you.

[Mr JP Fugley]

How does that work then. As I understand it the default position in western society for many years was the belief in a God. It quite possibly still is.

the default indoctrination has been a belief in god.

the default position would be not knowing if it weren't for this education. so it should be your job to sway me toward your position of believing, not my job to sway you into unbelieving

I don't think it's either of our job's, either way.

However, here's the good bit. You never, ever get to say "told you so".

[GepperRankins]

i understand the whole 10th dimension thing and infinity and shizzle.

ok, would "i'm aware of the theory" work for you?

[Mr JP Fugley]

First off you said that you knew for a FACT that nothing could be proven.

You later said you were open to the possibility of there either being or not being a god.

This is a contradiction, if you know for a FACT that something can't be proven you can't be open to the possibility that it can be.

Do you realise that doesn't actually make sense.

He said it can't be proven.

He said he accepts it might be true, or it might not.

That is entirely consistent, there is no contradiction. Just because something can't be proven, either way does not mean that either state is possible.

[Mr JP Fugley]

ok, would "i'm aware of the theory" work for you?

It does seem more likely.

[GepperRankins]

the default indoctrination has been a belief in god.

the default position would be not knowing if it weren't for this education. so it should be your job to sway me toward your position of believing, not my job to sway you into unbelieving

I don't think it's either of our job's, either way.

However, here's the good bit. You never, ever get to say "told you so".

why? because your religion is malleable?

well yeah, you see the creation story isn't wrong it's just a metaphor. what it really means is that god guided evolution

[Mr JP Fugley]

I don't think it's either of our job's, either way.

However, here's the good bit. You never, ever get to say "told you so".

why? because your religion is malleable?

well yeah, you see the creation story isn't wrong it's just a metaphor. what it really means is that god guided evolution

Simpler than that old bean. If you're right, how do you say "told you so".

Unless of course I've jumped the gun and you believe in an after-life, sans a deity.

Not really sure what you meant by the other bit, other than it making sense to me.