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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggles
    It is rather sad that it has become so commonplace for top sportsmen to take these things.

    I was, however, rather taken with the tale of one (Jamaican, I think) athlete who failed a drugs test - they found he had been smoking cannabis. Surely he should have been given a head start and anything distracting removed from his line of sight.
    Yes; he was a long-distance runner, if memory serves...

    Lost a big race to score some corn chips from a spectator or something?

    Sounds right.

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    In this situation though, what would the rest of you like see happen ?Should Giambi be allowed to play anymore ? Should Bonds be allowed to play on, and overtake 2 of the best Power hitters in baseball history, cheating for the last few years ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RPerry
    In this situation though, what would the rest of you like see happen ?Should Giambi be allowed to play anymore ? Should Bonds be allowed to play on, and overtake 2 of the best Power hitters in baseball history, cheating for the last few years ?
    Shoeless Joe was banned for life.

    Pete Rose should never be allowed into the H.O.F.

    Both men were punished over gambling/betting offenses (evidence in Joe's case was somewhat tenuous).

    Use of steroids must surely account for some "home-runs" that, in other cases, would have been flyouts or doubles, which would definitely affect outcomes of games and the betting likewise.

    I say banish them and take an eraser to the record books; make Bonds return his MVPs, and launch a full-scale investigation with mandatory drug-screens for everybody, and the next season doesn't start until this is done.
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    if something were to be done purely for the sake of preserving the sport's integrity, there'd be no question about it. catch all of the cheaters and give 'em the boot. when these stories started coming up again, on one hand i thought "i can't believe all of the commentators are even considering the possibility that the MLB will let this slide, let phoney stats remain on the books, let phoney players into the hall of fame, etc." but on the other hand, i could believe it 'cause pro sports are not just sport; they're also business. to seriously pursue the issue, and reveal just how widespread the steroid problem is, would be damaging to not only the images of those players in particular, but to the image of the sport as a whole and to the wallets of the teams' owners. so, somehow, i could easily imagine them trying to sweep it all under the rug as quickly as possible and hoping the fans forget about it after a while, 'cause... $. and $. and $$$.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3RA1N1AC
    if something were to be done purely for the sake of preserving the sport's integrity, there'd be no question about it. catch all of the cheaters and give 'em the boot. when these stories started coming up again, on one hand i thought "i can't believe all of the commentators are even considering the possibility that the MLB will let this slide, let phoney stats remain on the books, let phoney players into the hall of fame, etc." but on the other hand, i could believe it 'cause pro sports are not just sport; they're also business. to seriously pursue the issue, and reveal just how widespread the steroid problem is, would be damaging to not only the images of those players in particular, but to the image of the sport as a whole and to the wallets of the teams' owners. so, somehow, i could easily imagine them trying to sweep it all under the rug as quickly as possible and hoping the fans forget about it after a while, 'cause... $. and $. and $$$.
    I agree...

    I don't think the "sweeping" part will happen (unsuccessful attempts to do so will surely be made), but it will certainly be amusing to observe the tortured logic emitted by the players union, the agents, and legal mouthpieces trying to salvage a situation that would be best (and most easily) handled by abject acceptance that a problem exists, penalties must be handed out, sins confessed, records re-written, and amends be made.

    And Barry Bonds should drop the attitude (better yet, he should retire).
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    I agree...

    I don't think the "sweeping" part will happen (unsuccessful attempts to do so will surely be made), but it will certainly be amusing to observe the tortured logic emitted by the players union, the agents, and legal mouthpieces trying to salvage a situation that would be best (and most easily) handled by abject acceptance that a problem exists, penalties must be handed out, sins confessed, records re-written, and amends be made.

    And Barry Bonds should drop the attitude (better yet, he should retire).
    Barry Bonds will break Babe's then Hank's records.

    He would be a fool to take steroids now yet he still hits home runs and looks the same.

    Fishing expedition is over.

    I heard nothing of Mark Mcgwire's record. Mr. Andro
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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Barry Bonds will break Babe's then Hank's records.

    He would be a fool to take steroids now yet he still hits home runs and looks the same.

    Fishing expedition is over.

    I heard nothing of Mark Mcgwire's record. Mr. Andro
    Is it your contention Bonds is something other than a steroid user, B?

    He "looks the same"?

    The same as what?

    This is not now, nor has it ever been, "a fishing expedition".

    It is instead the culmination and confirmation of what has been suspected for quite some time.

    I believe androstenadione (McGwire's fave) should be officially "outlawed", and McGwire's stats questioned also.

    I didn't mention him in other posts as his name is not (yet) part of the story extant.

    Thanks for the reminder, though; McGwire should not escape the eraser.
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