what's wrong here?

[Everose]

What we need to do now is stop the politicians from being "wined and dined" by the drug companies

My opinion exactly. Stop voting for the ones that are getting their pockets lined by the large drug companies. I did. But don't stop there. Write them and tell them exactly why you are not voting for them.

And what about the billions the drug companies are spending for advertising? All it does is up the already high costs of drugs in this country.

The Doctors still get plenty from the drug companies. Zillions of samples to help them push their brand of drugs.

I could go on and on about healthcare.........and the large drug companies.

Hobbes, I wish there were some way to start a fund on this forum for this gentleman you spoke of with the large medical bills. Any ideas?

[Skiz]

Did those who donated get their money back?

[hobbes]

Hobbes, I wish there were some way to start a fund on this forum for this gentleman you spoke of with the large medical bills. Any ideas?[/COLOR]

I don't think he would hear of it, but would appreciate the thought.

[hobbes]

What we need to do now is stop the politicians from being "wined and dined" by the drug companies

Let me give you a quote from Shawshank Redemption:

Red:"The Ladies have taken a liking to you Andy"

Andy: "I don't suppose it would help if I told them that I wasn't a homosexual."

Red: "Their not homosexual either, Andy. You have to be human first."

[vidcc]

, I wish there were some way to start a fund on this forum for this gentleman you spoke of with the large medical bills. Any ideas?

Oddly enough he states quite plainly that he would rather have that debt than a social healthcare system that would have covered him.....

[Everose]

Oddly enough he states quite plainly that he would rather have that debt than a social healthcare system that would have covered him.....

That says quite a bit. What are the down sides of a social healthcare system?

[vidcc]

That says quite a bit. What are the down sides of a social healthcare system?

there doesn't have to be any downsides, but when in a debate about the two systems someone always says "well canada has a social system and this happens"...etc.
They always assume that an american system would operate the same way instead of looking at how it could be done differently

[Everose]

there doesn't have to be any downsides, but when in a debate about the two systems someone always says "well canada has a social system and this happens"...etc.
They always assume that an american system would operate the same way instead of looking at how it could be done differently

Sounds like we are already spending the money now to be able to do it twice as well... ... ...

But ........such as the Canada Healthcare System.. ... ... there must be downsides? Is it all in the slow process in crisis situations? Is that a factor of concern or not? Or does it normally work very well in crisis situations? Are you able to see a specialist if YOU feel it necessary?

[ruthie]

Where I live, when someone becomes ill, and the bills reach outer space, people tend to get together and throw a benefit at one of the bar/clubs. The local bands volunteer to play, and the money made that night is given to the family. It's a good thing to do, and there have been countless benefits around here. Perhaps that is an option? Nothing wrong with accepting help and love from one's community.

[UKResident]

When you have a political system like you have in the US where you have to have a great deal of money to get elected, you will always get corruption. l saw on the news the other night, at Bush's innauguration, the parties thrown by big business. $42m spent wining and dining politicians by corporations seeking favour. It seems from an outsider that the American way of doing everything involves money and graft, which is why you can spend so much more on health care than any other country and yet get so little in return.