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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Well then, I am wondering what exactly your original point is
    Talk to the guy who started this fuckin' thread, I don't know...

    I was just blathering, like you do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Well then, I am wondering what exactly your original point is
    Talk to the guy who started this fuckin' thread, I don't know...

    I was just blathering, like you do.
    If you don't know what you were trying to say how is Skizo going to know

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4

    Talk to the guy who started this fuckin' thread, I don't know...

    I was just blathering, like you do.
    If you don't know what you were trying to say how is Skizo going to know
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4

    Talk to the guy who started this fuckin' thread, I don't know...

    I was just blathering, like you do.
    If you don't know what you were trying to say how is Skizo going to know
    I lied.

    I do know what I was trying to say.

    The fact you don't know doesn't mean Skizo shares your shortcoming.

    It is probably best you don't try to decipher my intent, either; you see how tortured Busyman's logic becomes when he attempts this.

    EDIT: My apologies for use of the word LOGIC; I did not mean to imply Busyman uses it.
    Last edited by j2k4; 03-10-2006 at 01:11 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc

    If you don't know what you were trying to say how is Skizo going to know
    I lied.

    I do know what I was trying to say.

    The fact you don't know doesn't mean Skizo shares your shortcoming.

    It is probably best you don't try to decipher my intent, either; you see how tortured Busyman's logic becomes when he attempts this.

    EDIT: My apologies for use of the word LOGIC; I did not mean to imply Busyman uses it.
    Why 'cause through all your bullshit verbage, you still remain transparent and nonsensical?

    I'll stick with my logic.
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    I'll stick with my logic.
    Oh, by all means-I wouldn't dare to suggest otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by Busyman
    Why 'cause through all your bullshit verbage, you still remain transparent and nonsensical?

    I'll stick with my logic.
    Oh, by all means-I wouldn't dare to suggest otherwise.
    Excellent. Your suggestion wouldn't hold much weight anywayz.
    Silly bitch, your weapons cannot harm me. Don't you know who I am? I'm the Juggernaut, Bitchhhh!

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    Quote Originally Posted by j2k4
    Quote Originally Posted by vidcc
    I'm sure you actually believe this.
    He's said several times he lives in a six-sided house; he could be lying, I suppose.



    Do I literally think the dems are standing on the capitol steps, fingers moist and upraised?

    Not literally, no.

    Figuratively?

    No doubt about it.

    Each Republican is rushing to any available press to insist their individual efforts brought about the Dubai withdrawal.

    The official dem statement as of about 1 pm EST was as I have described it; they literally said they were deciding what their official stance would be.

    This was reported coincidentally with one by Frist's office that he applied pressure last night calling for the Dubai cohort to withdraw, which pressure bore fruit today.

    Other Republicans were making similar noises, but the status as "breaking news" precluded in-depth coverage of the entire litany.

    In light of the Republican rush, it strikes me as hilariously odd for the Dems to release that particular statement, even in some misbegotten nod to party loyalty.

    Apparently they have no minds of their own...
    The Repubs are making news 'cause this is approximately the second they went against the President. (the first was turning down his cleaning lady as a Supreme Court Justice)

    The Dems were against it anyway.

    Republicans are largely reflecting their constituents' views rather than backing Bush on the DP World deal, "using the issue effectively as a wedge to put distance between themselves and an unpopular president," Sabato said.

    Bush's popularity is nearing the lowest levels of his presidency with his approval rating dropping in one poll to 34 percent.

    But some Republicans dismiss Democrats' attempts to claim the security issue.

    "We're not going to let the Democrats get to the right of us on national security," promises Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., the House Homeland Security Committee chairman who is fighting the DP World deal.

    Democrats in Congress almost daily blame their GOP counterparts for security holes in the U.S. maritime industry.

    They trot out votes that show the Republican-controlled House and Senate turned back more than a dozen Democratic efforts to secure millions of dollars more for port security since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

    "When it comes to protecting the ports, Republicans really do have a pre-9/11 mind-set," said Sen. Evan Bayh, D-Ind.

    Among the votes:

    _In 2003, House Republicans, on a procedural vote, agreed to kill a Democratic amendment that would have added $250 million for port security grants to a war spending package.

    _Two years later, nearly all House Republicans voted against an alternative Homeland Security authorization bill offered by Democrats that called for an additional $400 million for port security.

    _Senate Republicans stood together in 2003 to set aside a Democratic amendment that would have provided $120 million more for port cargo screening equipment.

    _One year later, all but six Senate Republicans voted to reject a Democratic attempt to add $150 million for port security in a Homeland Security appropriations bill.

    That "record of failure" presents "an important opportunity for Democrats to argue that they are the ones who have the right approach to protecting the country," maintains Geoff Garin, a Democratic pollster.

    House Republicans were put on record again last week on port security when Democrats tried to force a debate and vote on legislation that would require congressional approval of DP World's takeover. The effort failed. Only two Republicans voted with Democrats.
    Either way I don't how either side can take credit for it solely and it doesn't matter 'cause this is clearly a bipartisan effort and ultimately the outcome will be for the better.
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    did he say hats off to bush for not getting stubborn on the deal ...........Foxnews..........fair and balanced

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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    Seems republicans don't want the ports secure, they blocked funding for Port security and disaster preparedness


    The amendment proposed by Rep. Martin Sabo (he's a democrat) included

    – $300 million to enable U.S. customs agents to inspect high-risk containers at all 140 overseas ports that ship directly to the United States. Current funding only allows U.S. customs agents to operate at 43 of these ports.

    – $400 million to place radiation monitors at all U.S. ports of entry. Currently, less than half of U.S. ports have radiation monitors.

    – $300 million to provide backup emergency communications equipment for the Gulf Coast.

    it’s an election with no Democrats, in one of the whitest states in the union, where rich candidates pay $35 for your votes. Or, as Republicans call it, their vision for the future.

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