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KazaaSearch
12-03-2002, 03:35 AM
Many of you might have encountered the problem when you complete downloading an mp3 file, but you got NO artist/title/album in it, although this information WAS visible in Kazaa (and basically that's how you found that file). How can it happen and how to identify this file, especially if it has not enough information in filename (or filename is obviously wrong/irrelevant)?

Kazaa collects so-called tag info and stores it in local and supernodal databases. This info is transmitted thru X-KazaaTag HTTP header when you download it. But it is NOT put into mp3 file ID3 tag! Therefore you may see the file as Artist1-Title1 in Kazaa search results/downloads view, but when you complete it, you got no title in the file (or tag info is DIFFERENT from what you saw in Kazaa). ID tag will only be present if it was in the original file. As far as I understand (you can correct me if you got knowledge), hashing procedure also takes ID tag info into account (and therefore if you change it, this will appear as a different file in Kazaa network, and the buddy who requested that file, will fail to continue his download). So the explanation for files without mp3 tags but with Kazaa tags is as follows: somebody created that file without mp3 tag in it, and then submitted information into Kazaa using My Kazaa ->Edit details.

Regarding this I got a favor to ask all users: please provide mp3 tags instead of Kazaa tags. Remember that KAzaa tags which were input manually only appear in search results (that's how people find your stuff), but it is lost after download complete. On the other hand, if you create mp3 tag, Kazaa will generate its internal tag automatically from it, and user will actually GET this info.

So how to deal with the file which has no tag (or tag is obviously wrong) and you can't figure out to which album or artist it is related?
Hmm... if you already gotten it and have cleaned Completed downloads, I don't know. But here is a piece of advice for future:
Use KazaaSearch! If you find a file with KS, it saves Kazaa tag information (i.e., everything visible in Search results list) into .list file, so you can always open it and locate the file information by the filename (which you get unspoiled).

Barbarossa
12-03-2002, 12:25 PM
Great tip! :)

ShareDaddy
12-03-2002, 01:51 PM
I am not sure if this will work, but if you downloaded an already hashed mp3 file that was not named, you could remove it from your share folder, try to openit in MusicMatch, tag it and then re-share it. I do not know if this will fix everyone's problem when downloading from you but it would cure the person who has the files problem. As I download music, all songs ar verified and tagged correctly before I continue to share them, I do not know if this corrects the file as shown in Kazaa or after someone else downloads them from me, but they are tagged correctly while I have possesion. If someone has a clearer understanding on how this works, please post a reply, thanks.

Barbarossa
12-03-2002, 02:26 PM
That should work..

It should be everyones responsibility to make sure that the stuff they're sharing is be correctly labelled. Make sure you check in particular the "Comments" category, that quite often contains garbage.

KazaaSearch
12-03-2002, 08:34 PM
Originally posted by barbarossa@Dec 3 2002, 03:26 PM
That should work..

It should be everyones responsibility to make sure that the stuff they're sharing is be correctly labelled. Make sure you check in particular the "Comments" category, that quite often contains garbage.
Oh yeah, a lot of people put their name into Comment field which is generated from ID3v1 tag (I don't know why Kazaa ignores ID3v2 comment field; probably because that field can be any characters long which they certainly don't like, and ID3v1 fields are all short and fixed-size).

I hate people who put their name or nickname into Comment field, but I just EXECRATE those and am disgusted by those who put that shit into Album or even Artist field. That's too abusive for people who dl their stuff.

People, be conscientious! Don't put advertising, useless URLs and your nickname into Comment field! I will anyway remove this shit before I share, and be sure not too many people will share your stupid ads in their files. As for me, I check every files and label it correctly and in full.
I even spend a while to get an album/compilation title from CDDB if these is no Album info in that mp3.
If I see that a track was published in several places, and I can't figure out from which particular CD this file was made (using track number or song length), I put all disk titles on which this song was released into ID3v2 field.

Labeling with a correct album/compilation is important for those people who collect whole CDs file by file. I used to use an mp3 manager program which can call CDDB to get tracklisting by track lengths, and I know it fails if at least one file in the bucn is NOt taken from that particular disk. That's a way to verify the integrity of your collection which pretends to be a whole disk. But that program (TagRename) is not toll free, and I stopped using it after evaluation period expired... ANYONE please advise any free (or cracked) program which can manipulate mp3 tags and use CDDB protocol... I would really appreciate...