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KFlint
08-30-2007, 09:29 PM
someone told me recently that both oink and bitmetv were way safer than sct and i had a god laugh, what do you think of it?
i would say bitmetv, because of the pay2leech system, the number of user (25000) and the amount of invites available
* safe in a legal perspective, which is most likely to be busted and user having trouble like receiving letters etc...
Skizo
08-30-2007, 09:31 PM
Safe in what regard?
I have to say your most likely to receive a cease and desist letter from using oink, though I've never heard of it happening. BitmeTV would be fairly safe because of the gray area about recording/sharing TV eps that are free to air. Only new on sct so I don't have an opinion yet.
In the end though all bittorrent use is inherently unsafe as far as the law is concerned. The degree of risk just varies depending on which country you live in.
jam0980tr
08-30-2007, 09:38 PM
sct is not safe it got hacked 2 time i think in the pass and it can get hacked again
only them hacks know howto hack sct
Oinks i don't know
BitmeTV Don't know
Skizo
08-30-2007, 09:39 PM
* safe in a legal perspective, which is most likely to be busted
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
jam0980tr
08-30-2007, 09:42 PM
* safe in a legal perspective, which is most likely to be busted
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
Skizo (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/skizo-89789) you are right all torrent sites are not safe they all can get hacked easy
Skizo
08-30-2007, 09:50 PM
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
Skizo (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/skizo-89789) you are right all torrent sites are not safe they all can get hacked easy
What does getting hacked have to do with anything? I think you're missing the point.
Most sites have passwords, etc. encrypted. Besides, being a member of a site isn't against the law - sharing files is.
When you're downloading from a user, your IP address is easily traceable. Hence, it would be pretty easy for a member of any number of anti-piracy groups to get your IP address information if they were connectable to you.
How would they be connectable to you? From gaining access to the tracker from an invite that some asshole gave to a person they didn't know.
dragos
08-30-2007, 09:51 PM
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
Skizo (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/skizo-89789) you are right all torrent sites are not safe they all can get hacked easy
he said it's because US fkers keep trading accounts , not because they got hacked :dry:
anions
08-30-2007, 09:54 PM
Skizo (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/skizo-89789) you are right all torrent sites are not safe they all can get hacked easy
What does getting hacked have to do with anything? I think you're missing the point.
Most sites have passwords, etc. encrypted. Besides, being a member of a site isn't against the law - sharing files is.
When you're downloading from a user, your IP address is easily traceable. Hence, it would be pretty easy for a member of any number of anti-piracy groups to get your IP address information if they were connectable to you.
How would they be connectable to you? From gaining access to the tracker from an invite that some asshole gave to a person they didn't know.
Dont you think if anti-piracy/mpaa officials wanted to be a member of, say a private tracker, they'd have better ways than asking it from fst traders?
Not that I dont condone account/invites trading, but just dont see your point there...
KFlint
08-30-2007, 10:03 PM
* safe in a legal perspective, which is most likely to be busted
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
sure, but following your point of view, we could also blame FST of being the most important place that give birth to trading...!
they are other factors than trading to take into consideration, like pay2leech where site operators happen to make profits from illegal actions...
rapesauce10
08-30-2007, 10:06 PM
OiNK, about 175k users sofar...
ScT 15k...
BitMeTV just a bit more than ScT.
OiNK is the most unsafe.
Traders put them all at risk though.
arkoaction
08-30-2007, 10:14 PM
More users => oink => most "unsafe"
wildbytes
08-30-2007, 10:29 PM
No site is really safe. Every site is a risk.
Wild
SgtMajor
08-30-2007, 10:34 PM
Wild beat me to it, Skizo said it, no site is safe, and your IP is always traceable back to you on the files you download.
Pointless poll if you know your shit, I mean who is to say you are not the Feds in disguise, gathering intel & invites and logging all activity. :spy source:
limpdickkid
08-30-2007, 10:37 PM
From what I hear ScT has its servers in the US, so that would make it less safe. They use SoftLayer, I think, and form I've read these are in the US so I guess ScT would be least safe. But who cares. :D. As long as you dont live in the US you are completely safe as ISPs wont hand over your details to these corporations in Europe but they may do in Asia.
jam0980tr
08-30-2007, 10:37 PM
ok i get you now i got it there other way well its not just fst there shit loads of site do trade on there forum but fst is hot spot for tradeing
Skizo
08-30-2007, 10:40 PM
sure, but following your point of view, we could also blame FST of being the most important place that give birth to trading...!
they are other factors than trading to take into consideration, like pay2leech where site operators happen to make profits from illegal actions...
Dont you think if anti-piracy/mpaa officials wanted to be a member of, say a private tracker, they'd have better ways than asking it from fst traders?
Not that I dont condone account/invites trading, but just dont see your point there...
There is nothing to worry about if you guys would just stop giving/trading invites to people you don't know. :fist:
pro267
08-30-2007, 10:44 PM
Dont you think if anti-piracy/mpaa officials wanted to be a member of, say a private tracker, they'd have better ways than asking it from fst traders?
Not that I dont condone account/invites trading, but just dont see your point there...
There is nothing to worry about if you guys would just stop giving/trading invites to people you don't know. :fist:
The only conclusion from your words is that the invites section must be closed permanently, and all invites should be given via PMs.
Is that what you're aiming for?
limpdickkid
08-30-2007, 10:46 PM
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There is nothing to worry about if you guys would just stop giving/trading invites to people you don't know. :fist:
I would've put the "Listen to the Dawg" one but couldnt find it on short notice. :D
From what I see you're a "giveaway fan" and giveaways carry the same risks as trading does.
Skizo: I do understand your point and you're right about it although I think that if an authority wants to shut down a tracker they won't even need to be signed up there to do so.
limpdickkid
08-30-2007, 10:59 PM
From what I see you're a "giveaway fan" and giveaways carry the same risks as trading does.
Skizo: I do understand your point and you're right about it although I think that if an authority wants to shut down a tracker they won't even need to be signed up there to do so.
http://image.bayimg.com/magfhaabi.jpg
You would think that wouldnt you.
Clever answer, thank you.
limpdickkid
08-30-2007, 11:06 PM
:-)
I'm sorry. I just love putting that owl in peoples face.
Btw, sorry about a little bit of spam. We really should go back to the topic in discussion.
I do a bit of background check on the people I give my invites to. And I think all inviters should do that. You know look at a few of the posts the person may have made here and on the trackers from their screenies.
AugustoP
08-30-2007, 11:11 PM
From what I hear ScT has its servers in the US, so that would make it less safe. They use SoftLayer, I think, and form I've read these are in the US so I guess ScT would be least safe. But who cares. :D. As long as you dont live in the US you are completely safe as ISPs wont hand over your details to these corporations in Europe but they may do in Asia.
You could easily check where the site is hosted with IP geolocation. SCT is hosted in Netherlands where trackers are legal.
PS. What a surprise! BitmeTV is hosted in US!
pro267
08-30-2007, 11:13 PM
Safe in what regard?
Maybe safe as in when they f**k you in the arse, they use protection.
Then again, maybe not..
limpdickkid
08-30-2007, 11:16 PM
From what I hear ScT has its servers in the US, so that would make it less safe. They use SoftLayer, I think, and form I've read these are in the US so I guess ScT would be least safe. But who cares. :D. As long as you dont live in the US you are completely safe as ISPs wont hand over your details to these corporations in Europe but they may do in Asia.
You could easily check where the site is hosted with IP geolocation. SCT is hosted in Netherlands where trackers are legal.
Ok thanks for clearing that up. And I just realised where I'd actually read that ScT servers were on Softlayer, which is meant to be in the US, is here on the servers thread in the tutorials.
But anyway its a good thing you cleared that up.
KFlint
08-30-2007, 11:28 PM
I remember having heard that demonoid was on leaseweb in netherlands and they add problem with dutch authorities, so i guess sct isn't 100% safe in there also
still looks way safer than US hosting!
SCT is hosted in Netherlands where trackers are legal.
It's not that simple they have BREIN who raided demonoid.
_coder_
08-31-2007, 12:07 AM
So sites that are open for signups should have been shut down already. e.g. SCC. I dont think the MPAA or RIAA even care that much tbh
AugustoP
08-31-2007, 12:14 AM
SCT is hosted in Netherlands where trackers are legal.
It's not that simple they have BREIN who raided demonoid.
I think NL is as safe as you can get (particular music tracker which takes it security really seriously hosted there) though some high level trackers are hosted in Malaysia.
Anyway, raid by foreign authorities is the least of user's concerns currently, you should worry more about letters from your local anti-piracy organisation. So the harder it is to get to the tracker, the safer you are.
tintin123
08-31-2007, 12:57 AM
sct is very safe
it has never been hacked
maybe ddos attacked but the details are encrypted and secure
DJGRR is well on top of things!
jam0980tr
08-31-2007, 12:59 AM
sct is very safe
it has never been hacked
maybe ddos attacked but the details are encrypted and secure
DJGRR is well on top of things!
tintin123 (http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/members/tintin123-153862)
i dont know what world you are liveing in i know sct got hacked 2 times ask the fst member about it they will tell you :w00t:
fstrulz
08-31-2007, 01:20 AM
I rarely use all 3 sites now... but the site whose a lot of its members have been getting letters from their ISP and the MPAA lately is... TL
DV8type
08-31-2007, 01:29 AM
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
Coundnt agree with you more.:santa:
fstrulz
08-31-2007, 01:35 AM
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
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Seriously, I agree with you, mate.
Security has been my #1 priority when it comes to BT...
That's why I've stopped trading and I only invite my good and trusted friends.
jam0980tr
08-31-2007, 01:38 AM
They're all pretty unsafe since you fkers keep trading them to strangers.
Trading puts us all at risk.
Coundnt agree with you more.:santa:
Skizo if its so risky why don't fst ban tradeing ? thats what i like 2 know:)
extinguisher
08-31-2007, 01:57 AM
Skizo if its so risky why don't fst ban tradeing ? thats what i like 2 know:)
simple economics. think about how much traffic this board gets because of the invite section. now think about how much the board makes off displaying ads to those visitors. the traffic would drop off, and the money would slow down.
jam0980tr
08-31-2007, 02:15 AM
My Question i Still Like Know Off Skizo :)
Salvia
08-31-2007, 02:26 AM
considering that Oink was on CNN i would say Oink
sct is very safe
it has never been hacked
Really should check your facts there.
Promoting every single user to sysop level is nothing like a DDOS :P
PS. What a surprise! BitmeTV is hosted in US!
Another one who could do some fact checking.
nac.net owns the IP, and nac.net is listed as an american company, but tto.nac.net is toronto.
2 guesses where bmtv is hosted :P
Skizo
08-31-2007, 08:56 AM
Coundnt agree with you more.:santa:
Skizo if its so risky why don't fst ban tradeing ? thats what i like 2 know:)
You pose the question as if I'm going to be aghast. Truth is, I'm just fine with that.
My Question i Still Like Know Off Skizo :)
What the heck does that mean? :blink:
benchez
08-31-2007, 09:12 AM
Well you picked 3 of the most reliable sites around...Nice poll ;)
Patriot foreve
08-31-2007, 09:15 AM
No site is really safe. Every site is a risk.
Wild
I am with Wild in that ,One way or another there is a risk in every tracker ,nothing is 100% secured or perfect
benchez
08-31-2007, 09:28 AM
Yes that's obvious. Even a condom is only 99% effective... :blink:
bblogs
08-31-2007, 11:03 AM
How would they be connectable to you? From gaining access to the tracker from an invite that some asshole gave to a person they didn't know.
:lol: That's just stupid. If people didn't do that then I'd still be leeching off isohunt :frusty:
Doesn't matter how careful people are, anti-piracy agencies would still get in. Why....?
http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/vcs/dennert/archives/money.jpg
That's why! :yup:
blackbird
08-31-2007, 12:04 PM
maybe someone should do a vulnerabilty scan on all those site and find out which is the least vulnearble to exploits ...
/me starting nmap ..:whistling
KevinGarnet
08-31-2007, 05:45 PM
i think Oink is most unsafe tracker from these three..
Skizo
08-31-2007, 05:49 PM
How would they be connectable to you? From gaining access to the tracker from an invite that some asshole gave to a person they didn't know.
:lol: That's just stupid. If people didn't do that then I'd still be leeching off isohunt :frusty:
Doesn't matter how careful people are, anti-piracy agencies would still get in. Why....?
That's why! :yup:
Who cares where you'd be downloading from? The premise is, if you don't know someone, you don't get in. Period. It's all based on trust and you traders screw it all up and put everyone at risk.
Anti-piracy agencies would get in b/c of "money". WTF are you going on about? :blink:
LaPistola
08-31-2007, 06:02 PM
My Question i Still Like Know Off Skizo :)
What the heck does that mean? :blink:
Lol he's supposedly from the UK, but he doesn't seem to be able to speak the language very well, or at lest type it:yup:
How would they be connectable to you? From gaining access to the tracker from an invite that some asshole gave to a person they didn't know.
:lol: That's just stupid. If people didn't do that then I'd still be leeching off isohunt :frusty:
Doesn't matter how careful people are, anti-piracy agencies would still get in. Why....?
http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/vcs/dennert/archives/money.jpg
That's why! :yup:
Because of fake money:huh:
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