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scribblec
01-18-2003, 12:06 AM
so whats worse
someone who dont share
or someone whos shares fakes



can someone make this a poll?

Mivaro
01-18-2003, 12:07 AM
definatly a fakefile sharer! :angry:

ugluk
01-18-2003, 12:09 AM
i hate both! :angry:
but fakers are just so so EVIL! they ought to be shot.

Razz
01-18-2003, 12:11 AM
that right line em all up along with bill gates and shoot them all make the world a better place for it :P

Wizzy
01-18-2003, 12:14 AM
I say leechers. Because now that I found this forum, I come here for all the verifieds! :lol:

dmorgan89
01-18-2003, 12:52 AM
Yeah me too. Leechers are worse because there is always verifieds and sig2dat to bypass fakers.

Soul814
01-18-2003, 12:53 AM
ummmm fakes....

SpeakingSoul
01-18-2003, 01:13 AM
I think fakes. especially the ones who, like, made them fake. That's intent. I don't understand why someone would do that, or what purpose it would serve.

Crazycol
01-18-2003, 01:19 AM
Both are as bad as each other, but fakers must come on top. There's nothing more fustrating than D/L a file (i.e 400 Megs or above) to find out it's FAKE!!!!! :angry:

jetje
01-18-2003, 02:34 AM
Fakes, don't care much anymore 'bout leechers, I still think they suck but i can live with those f*cks.

TerminatorStout
01-18-2003, 02:44 AM
Originally posted by Razz@17 January 2003 - 16:11
that right line em all up along with bill gates and shoot them all make the world a better place for it :P
Im sure you were joking, so I forgive your statement.

TS

4play
01-18-2003, 02:56 AM
do you want to know who came up with the idea for poisoning the p2p networks.

www.theregister.co.uk (http://212.100.234.54/content/6/28919.html)

this is the same fella that cliams he came up with a worm that infects p2p hosts. so i would not put too much stock in his cliams. but it still is interesting reading about how these fake files are getting into the networks.

TEZZ
01-18-2003, 03:33 AM
What about those that have downladed Fake files and keep sharing them?

I have contacted ppl on Kazaa about a file I have felt suspect about and they have confirmed the file..only to find out they have Bull-Shitted me as well.

My opinion..Too many kids around!

they must have a right laugh at us downloading their 700MB files only to learn they are fake..How much fun is that!!??

But hey, its free..I take it as part of downloading now..sorta like occupational hazard :)

Fuck get round it..shut the fuck up..stop complaining..your getting shit for FREE

TEZZ

4play
01-18-2003, 03:49 AM
true it's one of the hazards of kazaa along with viri, trojans and leechers.
:angry:

could be worse though you could have to pay for the software. lol

Crazycol
01-18-2003, 03:49 AM
(Fuck get round it..shut the fuck up..stop complaining..your getting shit for FREE).... I hope your every D/L is a fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,then you want be so "what the hell"!!!!!!!!!!

4play
01-18-2003, 03:54 AM
Originally posted by crazycol
then you want be so "what the hell"!!!!!!!!!!
depends if his prozac has any effect.
if they do flood the network to an extent that all the files are fakes then you would just have to put up with it. there is no point being angry about it you are stealing other peoples work you know.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
01-18-2003, 03:57 AM
I hate both and as everyone else said its free so we shouldnt complain but as 4play said true it's one of the hazards of kazaa along with viri, trojans and leechers. We have to complain to vent some steam out. when i first started kl, i dl'ed a fake spiderman that took me about 3 days to get being a 56k'er, all night and all day dl'ing.... <_< but now im a DSL dl'er and we have AVIpreview now for movies... but for games and software We just gotta that right line em all up along with bill gates and shoot them all make the world a better place for it if we do get a fake
well thats my 2...3 cents i think.

gumbydancin
01-18-2003, 04:42 AM
I'd be willing to help out with the slaughter of the fake file sharers!! :)

deckard
01-18-2003, 06:37 AM
Actually I don't give a damn anymore. Thanks to Avi Preview, I know well in advance if a movie download in progress is something I want or not. And tho there is no good way to test game exes in advance, I figure that anything I get that works is cake anyway. And sometimes I get frosting, too. Wonderful little surprises. And I don't mind tossing anything that doesn't work or that I don't like. Great German expression: Nur Zeit. (Only Time.)

But two years ago, when I first discovered P2p, and wasn't certain if it would continue, and desperately tried to snag every lost piece of music I ever had, and when I measured success after gathering enough to make just one Mp3 archive after two or three weeks or even a month, on a 56k dialup, and infuriating my employer by doing said same on office time...

Well, as I said, it was a desperate time. Now, everybody, just relax. This thing is not going to go away, and now? Now I have almost everything I want, though there are a bunch of movies I'm after.

Still I'm not worried. Got Duck Soup, and I wasn't even able to get that when I had two VCRs and rented and copied all the time. Got Treasure Of The Sierra Madres. Got Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf. Got The Longest Day. Got Unforgiven. Got Seven Samurai. Got Magnificent Seven. Got Chinatown. Got To Kill A Mockingbird. Got The Great Santini. Got The Great Escape. I could go on but this isn't the verifieds.

Etc.

Not a care, Mate. B)

(Edited to make addition)

scribblec
01-18-2003, 10:07 AM
imo like somonje said earlier about fake filesharers
thta when i was on dial up
it took me a minimum of 2 weeks to get a dvd rip and the ocasion it turned otu fake i felt like throwing my comp out thw indow or something
and the reason it took me so long because on dial up if u stay idle for more then 2 hours in auto disconnects so basically i had to supervise my downloads which i havent got time for

Dieselpower
01-18-2003, 11:44 AM
Today fakers isn't the problem, but leechers is! And especially leechers sharing crap.
So far the only one effective way to stop them is to IP ban them.
P.S. Certanly, after verifying them as leechers.

"The Avatar Man"
01-18-2003, 12:06 PM
fakers aint as bad as the
fakers that infect with viruses
THOSE are the worst :angry:

TerminatorStout
01-18-2003, 11:32 PM
Originally posted by Crazycol@17 January 2003 - 19:49
(Fuck get round it..shut the fuck up..stop complaining..your getting shit for FREE).... I hope your every D/L is a fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,then you want be so "what the hell"!!!!!!!!!!
No where in your incoherent rambling did you even come close to a rational thought. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


TS

Crazycol
01-19-2003, 02:24 AM
TerminatorStout your babbling makes no sense!!!, If you had read a quote by Tezz you would see where the quote had come from!!!!!!!!, and its ok I don't believe in God :D

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
01-19-2003, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by TerminatorStout+19 January 2003 - 00:32--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TerminatorStout @ 19 January 2003 - 00:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Crazycol@17 January 2003 - 19:49
(Fuck get round it..shut the fuck up..stop complaining..your getting shit for FREE).... I hope your every D/L is a fuck up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!,then you want be so "what the hell"!!!!!!!!!!
No where in your incoherent rambling did you even come close to a rational thought. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


TS [/b][/quote]
dude, 5 points to you TS, but people have their own opinions....... :ph34r:

TerminatorStout your babbling makes no sense!!!, If you had read a quote by Tezz you would see where the quote had come from!!!!!!!!, and its ok I don't believe in God&nbsp; i like your attitude, from time to time but its good to keep a cool head right now, 5 points to you too! :rolleyes:

but points dont matter hear so 5 points to everyone! :P

:P :D :lol:

4play
01-19-2003, 02:41 AM
hip hip hooray.

what can i use these 5 points for.

diesel one question

Originally posted by diesel
Today fakers isn't the problem, but leechers is! And especially leechers sharing crap.


why would leechers be sharing.

just a minor point pay no attention i have had too much to drink.

Crazycol
01-19-2003, 02:48 AM
Very true 4play, How can a Leecher be sharing crap when they have nothing to share????? <_<

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
01-19-2003, 02:49 AM
Originally posted by 4play+19 January 2003 - 03:41--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4play @ 19 January 2003 - 03:41)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> hip hip hooray.

what can i use these 5 points for.

diesel one question

<!--QuoteBegin--diesel
Today fakers isn't the problem, but leechers is! And especially leechers sharing crap.


why would leechers be sharing.

just a minor point pay no attention i have had too much to drink. [/b][/quote]
buy yourself a cyber beer! a point a beer! Its not as good as a real one but hey, its free! hey, how about beer smileys? ^_^ Cheers!

Crazycol
01-19-2003, 02:52 AM
Whats with the points Shinigami? <_<

4play
01-19-2003, 02:59 AM
Shinigami i have had enough beer. im on the vodka now. and i need more points to earn myself a vodka.

:lol:

still leechers and fake files are as bad as each other so forget about it. use the hashes and you are guarenteed quality.

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
01-19-2003, 03:09 AM
Whats with the points Shinigami? It's just something to poke fun at lol :P ::poke poke:: :lol:
still leechers and fake files are as bad as each other so forget about it. use the hashes and you are guarenteed quality. and i agree with ya, the more we grow (sharers), the more they grow (leechers), but its something we have to live with and the longer we share and learn, there will be more ways to avoid these fakes and leechers. Nothing is perfect and that is why we must strive to achieve it! :rolleyes:

Crazycol
01-19-2003, 03:13 AM
Sometimes with hashes you can never get any D/Ls because so may people are using them, So have to take the chance!!, And the typing getting slower, am on the vodka to!

4play
01-19-2003, 03:18 AM
good man crazycol. a few vodkas never hurt anybody.

keep up the sharing and pour us a large one.

Soul814
01-19-2003, 03:26 AM
this topic seems old... lol i dink i responded to it... i dunt like those who r fake... lolol... since i rarely use the forum for verifies... :P

boogie_knights
01-19-2003, 10:44 AM
Hmmm yes both are bad, but fakers seem to be the most hated. Thank god for the AVI preview, so we dont have to put up with this. If i find a fake or a crap copy of something, it gets trashed period! Now if everyone was to do this, wouldnt we have less fakes and crap copies? Bit of common sense here really.

BK

bluesxman
01-25-2003, 12:54 AM
Comparing a faker with a leecher is not fair ... for the leecher. Especially when these are 56Kers with need all their bandwith to get something out of the net. We could say that a broadband leecher is nerly as bad a s a faker. I wish I could make that avi preview to work (any ideas?) but I still have to wait for the file to dl.... which since I have kazaalite is not very long.

I respect the rights of authors, artists and companies blah, blah, blah but as long as I can get it free and give what I have away....

Shinigami_[R.I.P.]
01-25-2003, 12:58 AM
Originally posted by bluesxman@24 January 2003 - 16:54
Comparing a faker with a leecher is not fair ... for the leecher. Especially when these are 56Kers with need all their bandwith to get something out of the net. We could say that a broadband leecher is nerly as bad a s a faker. I wish I could make that avi preview to work (any ideas?) but I still have to wait for the file to dl.... which since I have kazaalite is not very long.

I respect the rights of authors, artists and companies blah, blah, blah but as long as I can get it free and give what I have away....
If your having problems with AviPreview, try opening up the program, and dragging and dropping the .dat file onto that black screen and see if your able to preview it and also make sure you have at least 1 meg to see if it works and at least 5 - 10 Megs of it to actually verify the movie...

ProwL418
01-25-2003, 07:26 AM
leechers i can handle, its fake files that drive me up the wall
makes me very glad to have avi preview
next id like to see something that tries to rebuild a compressed archive to verify the validity of gamez
...just a thought
though, im really beginning to wonder if avi preview is capable of corrupting the data stream of a movie...

bowser
01-25-2003, 05:41 PM
fake sharers are worse I think..

FreakGrrl
01-25-2003, 06:48 PM
If the download is quick, I'm not too upset to see that it's a 'fake' file (i.e. not the file I thought I was dl'ing). I'll just delete it, if it's nothing I want, or keep it, but rename the file, and change the details immediately. I don't mind leechers, but if people would share, it sure would make the dl thing a lot faster.

What I try to do when I'm dl'ing files is I uncheck the box, and hold my mouse over each individual file, looking for changes. I was trying to get a movie last night, and one user had the file marked as being something other than what I was looking for - just one.. and that was enough to save me from a 2 hour DL.

Rename your files, folks! You might save someone some serious aggravation ;)

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
01-25-2003, 07:25 PM
:D Ahhhhhh we have a new girl member amongst us...welcome to the board FreakGrrl. :D

4play
01-25-2003, 07:39 PM
i reckon we should advertise for some girls.

wanted

girls who enjoy hanging out with blokes. a tom boy would be perfect.
must also enjoy computers and have a large apetite to pirate and share as much software, games, music and films as they can.

applicants must be over 16 but not by too much :lol:

FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
01-25-2003, 07:46 PM
Originally posted by 4play@25 January 2003 - 14:39
i reckon we should advertise for some girls.

wanted

girls who enjoy hanging out with blokes. a tom boy would be perfect.
must also enjoy computers and have a large apetite to pirate and share as much software, games, music and films as they can.

applicants must be over 16 but not by too much :lol:
:o :D :blink:

superblaat
01-25-2003, 07:54 PM
I think the lechers are worst, because eventually THEY'RE the biggest problem,
you can easily get around the fake files problem, by using programs such as avi-preview, and using verifieds sites. The point with fake files is that it's the most in-your-face problem, but I think Leechers are the bigger problem.
You see leechers corrupt the very essence of p2p, and that is that when somebody downloads a file it becomes more available because the number of sources is growing. The problem with leechers is that they're just taking up slots and not giving anything in return except for the fact that most of them run KMD and bring in big scoops of money for Sharman...

FreakGrrl
01-25-2003, 11:05 PM
Yes, I belong to the female species and thank you for the welcome, FuNkY and 4play :D

DalamarDarklord
01-25-2003, 11:13 PM
Actually, leeching i can understand, since some ppl just can't afford the bandwith-- but faking? WTF is the point of naming something what it isn't except to piss other ppl off?

I can stand leechers, after all, 99% of legit Kazaa users (no pl hack) prob have between 0 and 10 pl, but faking is SO f'ing annoying...