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ShareDaddy
10-31-2002, 09:32 PM
Do you think filesharing still has a long way to go or do you think it is on it's last legs. Please speak out about this subject, thanks.
Edit: Sorry for the mispelled Infancy, had a brain freeze right at that moment. :P
FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
10-31-2002, 09:43 PM
<_< I think it has aged a little,I mean some of us have been file sharing for 3 even 4 years now,alot of people already have most of what they want.
ShareDaddy
10-31-2002, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by FuNkY CaPrIcOrN@Oct 31 2002, 04:43 PM
<_< I think it has aged a little,I mean some of us have been file sharing for 3 even 4 years now,alot of people already have most of what they want.
That is impossible, no one has everything they want. But I digress. I mean my question is more focused on The Filesharing "Business" and not the people. Do you think we will still be filesharing in 5 years for instance, or do you see us being retired in 1 year. Something more along those lines, but I do appreciate your response.
jetje
10-31-2002, 09:55 PM
Long long time ago in a Galaxy far away, there were bulletinboards people with 4800kb modems were sharing files those days by uploading some and downloading some. It must been 'bout 20 years ago it was.
That's why i don't think so fc, always new stuff comes out. You get the old songs but there is always a new melody. Games, movies and especially for you FC even yourt favorite XXX movies.......
People will get more and more bandwidth in the future. That will mean filesharing will become even more popular. But it will greatly depend on the filesharing software and networks. Without any good ones, filesharing will not be for the masses.
ShareDaddy
10-31-2002, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by Paul@Oct 31 2002, 05:00 PM
People will get more and more bandwidth in the future. That will mean filesharing will become even more popular. But it will greatly depend on the filesharing software and networks. Without any good ones, filesharing will not be for the masses.
I feel the same , however the type of files may be different if current trends keep going the way they are. I want filesharing of one form another to continue forever, but I do believe the type files will be drastically changed within the next couple of years due to the ever glooming industry disputes and actions. Live long and prosper has always been my motto, would love to keep doing this type of stuff forever.
El_Jefe
10-31-2002, 11:09 PM
I think Paul was right about the broadband thing. In fact, I think file-sharing isn't even anywhere near the peak of its popularity. If you look at the different file-sharing programs out there (most have good and bad aspects), I think they'll eventually continue to develope, each taking the good aspects from each other, until somebody comes up with another unique way to share files.
I do believe that some sort of accommodation will eventually have to be reached with the recording industry and other industry protection groups, and that will end up changing file-sharing radically.
sim one
10-31-2002, 11:59 PM
As long as people are unwilling to pay for things such as software, movies, music etc, there will continue to be filesharing.
And like everything else, someone will always be trying to make it bigger and better and faster than it is now.
Ardor
11-01-2002, 12:08 AM
Originally posted by ShareDaddy@Oct 31 2002, 10:32 PM
Do you think filesharing still has a long way to go or do you think it is on it's last legs. Please speak out about this subject, thanks.
From what I've seen the whole music and movie industry is on it's last legs. Of course p2p in general will continue to exist, but this should be a lesson in the form of: Lower prices, support open-source, and accept p2p as a standard (or one of) for a world-wide distribution of movies, music, software, etc.
Record companies, movie companies, producers and actors still make tons of money!
The only people who don't make much money are the reletively unknown music makers. But that's not our fault, but that of the record companies who pay them too little.
They claim sales have dropped because of filesharing but that is just not true as recent studies have shown. The main reason is the worse economy and the tremendously high prices of cd's and dvd's.
I have downloaded many gigabytes of music and movies. If there wasn't filesharing I wouldn't have spend any money on buying cd's. I would just listen to the radio and watch TV.
Schmiggy_JK23
11-01-2002, 01:58 AM
I have been filesharing since 97'... seems so long ago... lol... freshman year, at a major big ten school... t3 lines with ethernet right into the room...ah, those were the days... piracy right over the network, lol... and the infamous... Scour Media Agent... where if you werent into irc fserves, which are still a bitch, and pre napster, was the best place to get mp3s... not that stuff seems like a dinosuar, lol.
ShareDaddy
11-01-2002, 04:42 PM
Originally posted by Paul@Oct 31 2002, 07:20 PM
Record companies, movie companies, producers and actors still make tons of money!
The only people who don't make much money are the reletively unknown music makers. But that's not our fault, but that of the record companies who pay them too little.
They claim sales have dropped because of filesharing but that is just not true as recent studies have shown. The main reason is the worse economy and the tremendously high prices of cd's and dvd's.
I have downloaded many gigabytes of music and movies. If there wasn't filesharing I wouldn't have spend any money on buying cd's. I would just listen to the radio and watch TV.
I am in total agreement with Paul's statement regarding the money he still would not have spent if there was no P2P network. I would have not spent any money and listened to the radio and watched TV. I mean, who can afford to raise a family, with all that entails and purchase all of these overpriced, maybe listen to or watch just once, music and movies? Not me and not most of my friends. And those few friends or relatives with the big purse strings that do purchase all of the stuff would just be where I would get them, I would still not be buying overpriced music and movies. Blank digital media (CD/DVD) are cheaper than their old tape counterparts and the industry is still putting a premium price tag on them. What is with that? They are only fooling themselves if they think we do not understand this fact, the simple fact you can find the same movie on tape for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of it on DVD is ridiculous. Prices need to come down if they want me to give a damn about their rights and or protection under any law governing copyrights and or distribution rights. Filesharing to me is a beautiful way of our being able to fight the system on a global scale while still keeping our aninimity and privacy (to a point).
xeroxed
11-01-2002, 05:45 PM
Originally posted by ShareDaddy+Nov 1 2002, 11:42 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ShareDaddy @ Nov 1 2002, 11:42 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--Paul@Oct 31 2002, 07:20 PM
Record companies, movie companies, producers and actors still make tons of money!
The only people who don't make much money are the reletively unknown music makers. But that's not our fault, but that of the record companies who pay them too little.
They claim sales have dropped because of filesharing but that is just not true as recent studies have shown. The main reason is the worse economy and the tremendously high prices of cd's and dvd's.
I have downloaded many gigabytes of music and movies. If there wasn't filesharing I wouldn't have spend any money on buying cd's. I would just listen to the radio and watch TV.
I am in total agreement with Paul's statement regarding the money he still would not have spent if there was no P2P network. I would have not spent any money and listened to the radio and watched TV. I mean, who can afford to raise a family, with all that entails and purchase all of these overpriced, maybe listen to or watch just once, music and movies? Not me and not most of my friends. And those few friends or relatives with the big purse strings that do purchase all of the stuff would just be where I would get them, I would still not be buying overpriced music and movies. Blank digital media (CD/DVD) are cheaper than their old tape counterparts and the industry is still putting a premium price tag on them. What is with that? They are only fooling themselves if they think we do not understand this fact, the simple fact you can find the same movie on tape for 1/2 to 1/3 the price of it on DVD is ridiculous. Prices need to come down if they want me to give a damn about their rights and or protection under any law governing copyrights and or distribution rights. Filesharing to me is a beautiful way of our being able to fight the system on a global scale while still keeping our aninimity and privacy (to a point).[/b][/quote]
You said all that needs to be said.....
:ph34r:
allmons
11-01-2002, 07:32 PM
Well said, hale fellow! I could not agree with you more. The calculated nonsense of the RIAA and the big companies is what keeps sales down. Who gave the green light on the new Madonna film? That idiot ( and those like him ) is what keeps the costs artifically high. Why is it necessary to give an artist a $20 million dollar /per movie contract? Or a $5 million dollar record deal? For heaven's sake - don't these artists know they could record their own music, package it and sell it themselves? Instead of $1.00 per CD sold, they could make $5 or $6, and still sell the damn things for less than $9.00.
Seems to me the RIAA and music companies are the ones stealing fron the artists - not p2p file sharers!
random nut
11-01-2002, 07:44 PM
amen to that
ShareDaddy
11-01-2002, 07:51 PM
Originally posted by allmons@Nov 1 2002, 02:32 PM
Well said, hale fellow! I could not agree with you more. The calculated nonsense of the RIAA and the big companies is what keeps sales down. Who gave the green light on the new Madonna film? That idiot ( and those like him ) is what keeps the costs artifically high. Why is it necessary to give an artist a $20 million dollar /per movie contract? Or a $5 million dollar record deal? For heaven's sake - don't these artists know they could record their own music, package it and sell it themselves? Instead of $1.00 per CD sold, they could make $5 or $6, and still sell the damn things for less than $9.00.
Seems to me the RIAA and music companies are the ones stealing fron the artists - not p2p file sharers!
That last sentence sums up what we were all trying to get too, thanks.
Did you guys know that in most countries part of the price of blank cd's consists of a fee which goes to organisations like the RIAA and BUMA/Stemra. This is to compensate for illegal copying.
Damn bastards. Maybe I only use cdr's to backup my documents <_<
random nut
11-01-2002, 08:40 PM
Didn't know that. Why should they get money when I may not even copy any illegal programs/albums? I wonder if they also get money for each sold HDD and other medium, including cassette/VHS tapes.
Another reason why we should copy illegal stuff. If we don't do that, the companies will get more money than they deserve.
xeroxed
11-01-2002, 08:43 PM
Seems to me the RIAA and music companies are the ones stealing fron the artists - not p2p file sharers!
This my friend, right here, is WHY the RIAA and music companies are so pissed off at us. Where not stealing from the artist or actor, they still get paid. It's the companies where stealing from, and as far as I'm concerned they can kiss my poor white ass.
:ph34r:
Salmonspringrol
11-01-2002, 08:51 PM
Well said, hale fellow! I could not agree with you more. The calculated nonsense of the RIAA and the big companies is what keeps sales down. Who gave the green light on the new Madonna film? That idiot ( and those like him ) is what keeps the costs artifically high. Why is it necessary to give an artist a $20 million dollar /per movie contract? Or a $5 million dollar record deal? For heaven's sake - don't these artists know they could record their own music, package it and sell it themselves? Instead of $1.00 per CD sold, they could make $5 or $6, and still sell the damn things for less than $9.00.
Seems to me the RIAA and music companies are the ones stealing fron the artists - not p2p file sharers!
The film studio "United Artists" or "UA" was formed when a grop of actors got fed up with the big studios telling the artists what to do and taking all of the money, so they basically made a workers union/corporation to produce/market/distribute their product. This is needed in the music industry.
Did you guys know that in most countries part of the price of blank cd's consists of a fee which goes to organisations like the RIAA and BUMA/Stemra. This is to compensate for illegal copying.
This is the law of the land where I am living currently, and it sucks. It's one of the reasons why in some European countries the price of a single CD would make an American choke.
Red Wings Rule!
Yeah they do!!
xeroxed
11-01-2002, 08:58 PM
Originally posted by Salmonspringrol@Nov 1 2002, 03:51 PM
Red Wings Rule!
Yeah they do!!
and EVERYONE better agree or I'll send these three l33t nijas after ya :ph34r: :ph34r: :ph34r:
Rat Faced
11-01-2002, 09:39 PM
The ironic thing is the same Governments that call the p2p community are also subsidising the research into better ways to fileshare....how refreshing.
As long as there are millions of filesharers, there will always be p2p.
As Flinger points out, they cant jail everyone... :ph34r:
Originally posted by random nut@Nov 1 2002, 09:40 PM
Didn't know that. Why should they get money when I may not even copy any illegal programs/albums? I wonder if they also get money for each sold HDD and other medium, including cassette/VHS tapes.
same applies for cassette. vhs I am not sure about. hdd not.
xeroxed
11-01-2002, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by Paul+Nov 1 2002, 04:41 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Paul @ Nov 1 2002, 04:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin--random nut@Nov 1 2002, 09:40 PM
Didn't know that. Why should they get money when I may not even copy any illegal programs/albums? I wonder if they also get money for each sold HDD and other medium, including cassette/VHS tapes.
same applies for cassette. vhs I am not sure about. hdd not.[/b][/quote]
I highly doubt on the VHS since most everyone just burns movies as VCDs and then watchs em on there DVD player.
Ahh, all these caped abreviations make me go crazy.
:ph34r:
Juggalo15
11-17-2002, 05:55 PM
Share Daddy do you go to PHS? :blink:
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