Kazaa Lite Busted?

[riesdepies]

I looked arround on the forum but couldn't find a post about (though it must be hot
news, I probably didn't look good enough) but I came across this dutch tech site
news report, telling me that a lawyer, sent by Sharman, has told the dutch people
that are involved in K-Lite to immediately stop offering downloads. These people
were also asked to sign a paper where they agree to stop offering K-Lite and to
pay any damage caused to Sharman.

For dutch people, read it here: http://www.tweakers.net/nieuws/29946

There's probably already a long thread about this, if so, just redirect me to it please...

[sharedholder]

It was a long long thread about this, but is dissapeared.

[Kunal]

Edskes doesnt host kazaa lite k++ no more :(

[nostalgia]

Originally posted by Kunal@5 December 2003 - 20:32
Edskes doesnt host kazaa lite k++ no more :(
He has to. In the article on the Dutch techsite it said, that everyone hosting K-lite as download has received a letter from the Dutch lawyer from Sharman that they have to sign a sort of 'I'll never do this again" and have to pay off for so called damage they have done to the advertise business of Sharman. Edskes agreed to stop hosting the download of K-lite but he refuses to sign the letter.

[zapjb]

Wow, maybe TSIF? Now I got to call myself a shitstick. :P Oh well, whatever happens it's been fun.

[sharedholder]

<_<

[ck-uk]

I went over the main site last night looking for an older version.I wondered why i could find any links....i figured i 'd had one to many jays :lol:

[Explosive]

They can't stop K-Lite anyway!

[djweiser]

Dam!, Im the leading mirror for Kazaa Lite now.. but i havent recieved an email :unsure:

[arghwashier]

On a similar note what happened to www.kazaalite.tk? it doesn't seem te work anymore!

Is there any other page kazaa lite uses?

[sharedholder]

This time is not a joke from Sharman , i notice that 10 major software sites (softpedia, soft32...) has removed k-lite too.

[MUSLEMAN]

well fuckem, its shared on klite anyways, at anytime you want you can just search kilte or kazaa like in the search and download it

[arghwashier]

Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@5 December 2003 - 22:09
well fuckem, its shared on klite anyways, at anytime you want you can just search kilte or kazaa like in the search and download it
eh but where is the klite site?

[Kunal]

Originally posted by arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:11
where is the klite site?
http://doa2.host.sk/

[arghwashier]

Originally posted by Kunal+5 December 2003 - 22:25--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kunal @ 5 December 2003 - 22:25)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:11
where is the klite site?
http://doa2.host.sk/ [/b][/quote]
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

:(

[Kunal]

Originally posted by arghwashier+5 December 2003 - 23:30--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (arghwashier @ 5 December 2003 - 23:30)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Kunal@5 December 2003 - 22:25
<!--QuoteBegin-arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:11
where is the klite site?
http://doa2.host.sk/
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

:( [/b][/quote]
the site seems to be down at the moment, it will be back soon (unless sharmen networks have done some :( :angry: :unsure: )

http://www.klitesite.com links to google now :unsure:

[arghwashier]

i tried all 4 mirrors in this thread (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=66396&st=0?entry491603)

[Kunal]

Originally posted by arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:35
i tried all 4 mirrors in this thread (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=66396&st=0?entry491603)
they all link to doa2.host.sk anyway :lol:

[Razz]

Does this mean that Paul and VB have been made to pay damages (sorry i havent been around for a while), but if this is so i think its time for us to offer our support to these guys, maybe a paypal donations thing is in order i mean these guys did this for us and this community has grown and grown due to their hard work

[Rat Faced]

The home page is back up.

However K++ has been removed from the downloads.







I here those nasty IRC chatroom people are still passing it around..... tsk tsk :P

[Razz]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@6 December 2003 - 00:07
The home page is back up.

However K++ has been removed from the downloads.







I here those nasty IRC chatroom people are still passing it around..... tsk tsk :P
/me whistles innocently

who are they then?


:P

[SeK612]

This mean theres something in these stories (I heard that Edske might be in trouble but the K++ link has definately gone off the main site :()?

[Sony]

does that mean no more K-Lite for us? i think so <_<

[asmithz]

So how is everyone going to able to get it. If i had a copy right now i'd host it, but i don't. :(

[Wizzandabe]

All I can say is..this dont look good news for Klite, and this forum.

[kAb]

Looks like klitesite is now an emule soulseek and bittorrent site

[Razz]

come into #klchat if u need it


or pm me and ill sort out ppl i know with a transfer

[sharedholder]

K-LITE IS STILL ALIVE (http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/)

[riesdepies]

*deleted*

[asmithz]

Originally posted by sharedholder@5 December 2003 - 15:31
K-LITE IS STILL ALIVE (http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/)
Thanks Shared, uploading as we speak.

[james_bond_rulez]

the harder they come, the harder they fall

god damn RIAA :lol:

We stand united in the face of evil American laws and associations like RIAA/MPAA, we will NOT give in to ur bitchyness and dictatorship!!! :lol:

[sharedholder]

h**p://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/klitekpp243e.exe


Edit.

Direct Download of k-lite K++ removed :(

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by Kunal+5 December 2003 - 17:33--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kunal @ 5 December 2003 - 17:33)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:30
Originally posted by Kunal@5 December 2003 - 22:25
<!--QuoteBegin-arghwashier@5 December 2003 - 23:11
where is the klite site?
http://doa2.host.sk/
Forbidden
You don't have permission to access / on this server.

:(
the site seems to be down at the moment, it will be back soon (unless sharmen networks have done some :( :angry: :unsure: )

http://www.klitesite.com links to google now :unsure: [/b][/quote]
Yeah www.kazaalitesite.com links to google. Not klitesite.com tho.

===

TechTV still offers it http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/darktip...3464142,00.html (http://www.techtv.com/screensavers/darktips/story/0,24330,3464142,00.html) :)

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by sharedholder@5 December 2003 - 18:31
K-LITE IS STILL ALIVE (http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/)
Was this one of the mirrors once on klitesite.com?

[Wizzandabe]

LOL, They might be offering it now, but give it 24hours, and they wont be.

[sharedholder]

Tip GOOGLE-----------------klitekpp243e.exe Voilà! :lol:

[Formula1]

this is bs, we shud come up wid anothar klite site :angry: :angry: :angry:

[Mik3ll]

I have it saved on a CD, along with a lot of other programs to.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by sharedholder@5 December 2003 - 15:43
ht*p://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/klitekpp243e.exe
Here's the english version. Hosted by me.

h*tp://shad0wnet.thisbelongsto.us/downloads/klitekpp243e.exe]klitekpp243en.exe


Edit:

Direct Downloads removed

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+6 December 2003 - 00:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 6 December 2003 - 00:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@5 December 2003 - 15:43
h*tp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/kazaalite/klitekpp243e.exe
Here's the english version. Hosted by me.

ht*p://shad0wnet.thisbelongsto.us/downloads/klitekpp243e.exe [/b][/quote]
Thank you Agent Smith! Downloaded in 1 minute and 12 seconds... I will put it in my shared folder... :)


EDIT:

Direct Download removed

[asmithz]

Here's a very good site. Just like Edskes, but it's bright.

http://promobox.searchpixie.com/downloads.htm

[MagicNakor]

Interesting. Oh well, they can't actually stop people from using KL, and I bet there are plenty of places to get it. ;)

:ninja:

Edit: And I wouldn't worry about the forum, as there's nothing inherantly illegal about it.

[asmithz]

Here's a new mirror for all the KPP downloads. Everything is hosted my me so i dont think it will go down. More languages will come as i upload them.

KaZaA Lite downloads (http://web.1asphost.com/Shad0wNET/kpp/kdown.htm)

[TheGatherer]

This is outrageous! :angry: They cant do this 2 us! :angry:

[asmithz]

Hey Edskes still host the downloads, there just not listed. :D

[Wizzandabe]

Originally posted by Agent Smith@6 December 2003 - 01:05
Hey Edskes still host the downloads, there just not listed. :D
:o Really :D

[4play]

I wonder what will happen if they setup a bittorrent link for kazaalite on the main page. this is not a direct download so it aint illegal.

all they would have to do is setup a host somewhere where there are very few copyright laws and then they should be fine.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by 4play@5 December 2003 - 17:17
I wonder what will happen if they setup a bittorrent link for kazaalite on the main page. this is not a direct download so it aint illegal.

all they would have to do is setup a host somewhere where there are very few copyright laws and then they should be fine.
Thats is a good idea, but hard to do.

[4play]

why would it be.
you can seed a small file like that very easily with bitorrent all you would need is a half decent server somewhere and bittorent should not be at all hard to setup remotely.

[asmithz]

Well it itself is a small file, but then you got each and every language you have to put up. At 3mb avarage with 11 languages, thats 33mb. I don't know if they want they can.

Also they can use the download site i am hosting here. (http://web.1asphost.com/Shad0wNET/kpp/kdown.htm)

[Switeck]

The makers of Kazaa are apparently in a hurry to erode what marketshare they have left of ALL the file-sharing users in the world.

If we all quit using Kazaa Lite, we WON'T be going to regular Kazaa -- we'll be going to BETTER networks.

I expect to see users online drop by 1 million within the next 3 months for this and other reasons...

[sharedholder]

Originally posted by Agent Smith+6 December 2003 - 01:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Agent Smith @ 6 December 2003 - 01:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-4play@5 December 2003 - 17:17
I wonder what will happen if they setup a bittorrent link for kazaalite on the main page. this is not a direct download so it aint illegal.

all they would have to do is setup a host somewhere where there are very few copyright laws and then they should be fine.
Thats is a good idea, but hard to do. [/b][/quote]
RUSSIAN HOSTS (http://www.free-hosting.com.ru/free_web_hosting.php)

[ultimatejester]

http://www.filemirrors.com and search keyword is klite.

For some reason i cant copy and paste the link.

[kAb]

still waiting for official response <_<

[riesdepies]

Why the hell is everybody so concerned about getting the last K-Lite before it's gone?
Do you really think anyone can extinguish it from the net?
Of course it will NEVER go away.

But what will happen to all these guys who are now probably facing a law suit?
These are the guys who made K-Lite possible.
Shouldn't we be a bit more concerned about THEM?
Well, I am..

[downloader2008]

Originally posted by Wizzandabe+5 December 2003 - 20:08--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizzandabe @ 5 December 2003 - 20:08)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@6 December 2003 - 01:05
Hey Edskes still host the downloads, there just not listed. :D
:o Really :D [/b][/quote]
If you click on one of the links on that page, it links to Edskes which no longer has K++ on it.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by downloader2008+5 December 2003 - 21:56--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (downloader2008 @ 5 December 2003 - 21:56)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Wizzandabe@5 December 2003 - 20:08
<!--QuoteBegin-Agent Smith@6 December 2003 - 01:05
Hey Edskes still host the downloads, there just not listed. :D
:o Really :D
If you click on one of the links on that page, it links to Edskes which no longer has K++ on it. [/b][/quote]
Yes but the links work, but they are not listed. I would post a link but i don't think that is wise.

[zapjb]

Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.

[asmithz]

Originally posted by zapjb@5 December 2003 - 22:35
Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.
That came up before. Differant mirrors came up with diferant sizes. They both most likly are 2.4.3.

On my server it's 3287kb

[Wizzandabe]

Originally posted by zapjb@6 December 2003 - 06:35
Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.
You should of already had it, why are you all running around like chickens.

[Razz]

Originally posted by Wizzandabe+6 December 2003 - 10:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizzandabe @ 6 December 2003 - 10:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-zapjb@6 December 2003 - 06:35
Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.
You should of already had it, why are you all running around like chickens. [/b][/quote]
well its the acquisition of new users that keeps this network going and without mirrors and links to the program we will not acquire many new k-lite users, so thus its in all of our interests to fix this asap really :)

[asmithz]

Originally posted by Wizzandabe+6 December 2003 - 01:15--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Wizzandabe @ 6 December 2003 - 01:15)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-zapjb@6 December 2003 - 06:35
Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.
You should of already had it, why are you all running around like chickens. [/b][/quote]
cuz we need to poop :P

What kRAyZZed said

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by kRAyZZed+6 December 2003 - 05:18--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (kRAyZZed @ 6 December 2003 - 05:18)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Wizzandabe@6 December 2003 - 10:15
<!--QuoteBegin-zapjb@6 December 2003 - 06:35
Umm. What is the size of klitekpp243e.exe? Is it 2720KB or 3287KB? Cause I got both claiming to be v2.43. Thanks.
You should of already had it, why are you all running around like chickens.
well its the acquisition of new users that keeps this network going and without mirrors and links to the program we will not acquire many new k-lite users, so thus its in all of our interests to fix this asap really :) [/b][/quote]
why can't we just tell the new people to download off kmd search??? we all have it in our shared folder

[Rat Faced]

You mean tell that the filename is klitekpp243e....

Im not sure that we're allowed to say that the filename is klitekpp243e and that there are thousands of sources on kazaa.



They may have shot themselves in the foot.... all they have done is give more publicity to k-lite K++.

Apart from the main download sites being down, the file is widely available on their own network, and loads of kazaa users are probably searching for it to find out what those bunch of losers are so scared off.

Who was it that once said "All publicity is Good Publicity"?

[MUSLEMAN]

lol thats not a problem right now i have 4 different named klite 2.4.3 in my shared folder

kazaa lite2-4-3
klite2-4-3
klitekpp243
kazaalite2-4-3

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

not to mention 8 different word files stating where to get klite :lol:

[zin]

to the people who suggested BitTorrent links.

the reason why BitTorrent sites and suprnova mirrors keep getting shut down is because BitTorrent links are DEEPLINKS (links which point to a location on the server) which is not the same as Sig2Dat or ed2k which is METADATA (links which point to a location on a network, i.e. the equivalent of the press saying "the matrix is on the internet").

as the owner of the most well-known Sig2Dat database (FastTrackMovies) I'd like to hear suggestions on how to stick the middle finger up on Sharman Networks and their poor excuse for a client Kazaa. To the K-Lite owners, you have my full support.

[SeK612]

This sucks :(

Besides what happens if the major mirrors get shut down as well. All it'd take then would be for a company to start flooding the network with dud / tampered versions of K++ and it really would be hard to download...

[Benno]

Originally posted by zin+6 December 2003 - 15:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (zin @ 6 December 2003 - 15:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> to the people who suggested BitTorrent links.

the reason why BitTorrent sites and suprnova mirrors keep getting shut down is because BitTorrent links are DEEPLINKS (links which point to a location on the server) which is not the same as Sig2Dat or ed2k which is METADATA (links which point to a location on a network, i.e. the equivalent of the press saying "the matrix is on the internet"). [/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-www.fasttrackmovies.com
Our site has been temporaily closed by the MPAA.

Please visit www.fasttrackcentral.org for the lastest information.[/quote] :blink:


sorry for going offtopic, I just find this a bit strange

[zin]

what do you find strange? we're revamping and relaunching so we've kept it closed whilst we do, I've posted some screenshots on the backup forum. we've also moved away from the US and it's stupid DMCA "guilty until proven innocent" Act.

[Benno]

I mean that you say Metadata can not be forbidden and on the other hand you homepage says shut down by the MPAA


oh yeah and if it may sound that way i dont want to flame or anything just wondered :)

[robertpil]

If you want the Lite version of Kazaa, just download the real Kazaa program and do a search for Kazaa Lite. Download it and install it and get rid of the legit copy of Kazaa. !!!! :D

[james_bond_rulez]

Originally posted by robertpil@6 December 2003 - 20:20
If you want the Lite version of Kazaa, just download the real Kazaa program and do a search for Kazaa Lite. Download it and install it and get rid of the legit copy of Kazaa. !!!! :D
how about....no

<_<

[cosmic doobie]

:boxing:
Sharman, K-Lite won't go away without a fight!

[newsgeek]

I think it would be best if Kazaa Lite K++ were served by IRC Channels. :)

[asmithz]

Originally posted by newsgeek@6 December 2003 - 17:57
I think it would be best if Kazaa Lite K++ were served by IRC Channels. :)
Sounds like a plan, i'll set that up and add the link to my site.

[rebelwebmaster]

Oh the irony...

I have to believe the **AA is getting a kick out of this...

[DiskMan]

All I have to say is:

This is very gay.

They made K-Lite extinct.

Why the fu*k are they fighting about their fu*king coprights when they are all trying to survive the R|^^'s wrath?WTF is wrong with them?The dream?The dream to make a/the biggest P2P netowrk ever?I see all P2P going down the drain(publically)....it'll be as no1 knew what a P2P proggy is but secretly thier will be an UNDERGORUND!!!POWER TO T3H PEOPLE!!! :D :angry: :unsure: :blink: :ph34r:

[zin]

Originally posted by Benno@6 December 2003 - 19:40
I mean that you say Metadata can not be forbidden and on the other hand you homepage says shut down by the MPAA


oh yeah and if it may sound that way i dont want to flame or anything just wondered :)
like I said, we were hosted in the USA where the DMCA allows the MPAA to shut us down -without hard evidence- until we prove we are innocent... guilty until proven innocent, the American way.

you can appreciate we couldn't afford the $20,000 legal fees it would have taken to take the MPAA to court just to prove our innocence.

[zin]

Let me just add, I think Sharman's end game after making sure a new version of K-Lite is forcibly not released, is to disallow any of its older clients (and in turn the modified K-Lite K++ client) from being able to access the FastTrack network anymore.

I also feel with that with the new Magnet links coming out they will be making Sig2Dat extinct (and knowing them probably won't even fix their hashing algorithm)

Expect the eDonkey network to overtake the FastTrack network over the next few months. If they do in fact make Sig2Dat instantly obselete then I will be forced to ask all my users to convert to eMule as those will be the only links we'll be able to provide (they are mistaken if they think we're going to waste our time converting over to magnet links if they make Sig2Dat obselete overnight)

:angry:

[Benno]

Originally posted by zin@7 December 2003 - 17:22
like I said, we were hosted in the USA where the DMCA allows the MPAA to shut us down -without hard evidence- until we prove we are innocent... guilty until proven innocent, the American way.


Didnt know that


you can appreciate we couldn't afford the $20,000 legal fees it would have taken to take the MPAA to court just to prove our innocence.

I can imagine it :P


Good luck with the new server and the site :)

[Speedbird]

The easiest way to get Klite243 distributed, is to place the file in your shared directory and rename it to "PORN". That should work.

[Autumn Fox]

Originally posted by Speedbird@7 December 2003 - 21:22
The easiest way to get Klite243 distributed, is to place the file in your shared directory and rename it to "PORN". That should work.
Nah, won't work. Noone will lunch a program called PORN.

[Autumn Fox]

I'm getting kind of dizzy and uncertian. Could someone tell me what is the curent situation overview ?

[asmithz]

No the easisest for all of us to host kazaa lite lite. Like i have, KPP Downloads (http://kppdate.kickme.to/).

[Rigel]

Apparently all you have to do is act as a supernode; that way we can keep a file network going.

[WRFan]

Originally posted by ultimatejester@6 December 2003 - 03:46
http://www.filemirrors.com and search keyword is klite.

For some reason i cant copy and paste the link.
thank god, at least one person with a brain here, I already started to despair looking at how all the newbies are begging for download links. the exact download link is

http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type...le=klitekpp243e (http://www.filemirrors.com/search.src?type=contains&file=klitekpp243e)

and there are still some working mirrors

[WRFan]

Originally posted by Atumn Fox+8 December 2003 - 02:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Atumn Fox @ 8 December 2003 - 02:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Speedbird@7 December 2003 - 21:22
The easiest way to get Klite243 distributed, is to place the file in your shared directory and rename it to "PORN". That should work.
Nah, won't work. Noone will lunch a program called PORN. [/b][/quote]
lol. exactly. I'd think it's a virus. would never doubleclick it. wouldn't even download it

[Sh1t_H4pp3nz]

lol even www.zeropaid.com is down :D at least i allready for my KLite when it came out :P i have it burned on 3 cd-rs :P when are we gonna get a OFFICAL UPDATE on this?? please some1 get in touch of the makers of KLite and OFFICALLY FIND OUT what the hell is going on :D until then i still have hope :unsure:

[phalkon30]

While I can't speak for Jorge at ZP, I think the reason it is down is because of a database error. It started getting slow around friday and slowed down till it crashed. Should be up on monday.

I've also been told by Jorge that NOTHING would keep Zeropaid off the web, nobody will shut them down.

[Alex H]

I thought the whole thing about decentralized p2p programs was that no-body controls the network (i.e. so that it couldn't be shut down like Napster 1)

So if KMD rewrites their prog to stop KL++ attaching to it it will effectivly create two separate networks.

So as the free-sharing-no-spyware users we are, would it not be a good idea to "convert" KMD users to KLite? KMD user numbers drop and KMD & Sharman (being proper companies) get bashed into nothingness by the RIAA.

Keep KLite a bastard underground program. That is what make it great, and that is what will help it survive and flourish.

[zapjb]

To address Alex H. As I understand it KL++ disables act as supernode function. So there are NO SN using KL++. So kmd could/will upgrade KL++ out of connectivity to kmd's SN's.

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by zapjb@8 December 2003 - 16:19
To address Alex H. As I understand it KL++ disables act as supernode function. So there are NO SN using KL++. So kmd could/will upgrade KL++ out of connectivity to kmd's SN's.
I didn't know this. I thought K++ users can be supernodes just like everyone else, so long as you have a good enough PC and big enough bandwidth.

[Kunal]

Originally posted by barbarossa@8 December 2003 - 18:44
I thought K++ users can be supernodes just like everyone else, so long as you have a good enough PC and big enough bandwidth.
yes kl++ user can be supernodes, its just disabled by default, look for the kazaa lite k++ options and you will find it.....

[Barbarossa]

Originally posted by Kunal+8 December 2003 - 16:49--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Kunal @ 8 December 2003 - 16:49)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-barbarossa@8 December 2003 - 18:44
I thought K++ users can be supernodes just like everyone else, so long as you have a good enough PC and big enough bandwidth.
yes kl++ user can be supernodes, its just disabled by default, look for the kazaa lite k++ options and you will find it..... [/b][/quote]
Oh I see what you're saying now! :D

[Chame1eon]

Originally posted by Speedbird@7 December 2003 - 14:22
The easiest way to get Klite243 distributed, is to place the file in your shared directory and rename it to "PORN". That should work.
:lol: :lol:

[Autumn Fox]

About SuperNodes:

Is it possible that users of K-Lite can make their own Network based upon FastTrack ? I mean, can we survive(download from eachother) if Sherman in someway will find a way to block K-Lite connections to KMD ?

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Chame1eon+8 December 2003 - 18:35--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chame1eon @ 8 December 2003 - 18:35)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Speedbird@7 December 2003 - 14:22
The easiest way to get Klite243 distributed, is to place the file in your shared directory and rename it to "PORN". That should work.
:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
You don't have to rename it :lol: It has become one of the most popular files that users upload from me since about a week!

[Rat Faced]

Me too

And ive forced the supernode option now

[Benno]

Originally posted by Atumn Fox@8 December 2003 - 19:56
About SuperNodes:

Is it possible that users of K-Lite can make their own Network based upon FastTrack ? I mean, can we survive(download from eachother) if Sherman in someway will find a way to block K-Lite connections to KMD ?
If enough ppl tick the force supernode option klite will create its own network, but because supernode is disabled by default this could be a problem. ;)

[sharedholder]

Read my post here (http://klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=86673)

[tracydani]

So why doesn't someone with a little knowledge(not Paul) release one last version with the supernode function enabled and all start sharing that?

TD

[WRFan]

your idea about creating a new network is ridiculous. kazaa lite is used by less than 5 percent of all fasttrack users, that's less than a million overall plus consider that sometimes people sleep or go on vacation and don't have their kazaa running, plus there are some people who don't share, which would decrease the number to less than 200.000 people, which is too little, there would be not enough files. the only way kazaa lite can survive is by being able to connect to the overall fasttrack network, i.e. to ALL the clients inc. grokster, imesh and official kazaa. and I think this will be possible. I doubt very much that sharman will be able to block kazaa lite, so personally I am just going to stay with the last kazaa lite version forever, it has all the features I want, what else is needed?

[sp00ki]

Apparently, sharman has made changes in the new 2.6 release which refuses connections from k-lite specifically. Since this is a far more significant problem than simply finding a place to download the k-lite client, i've gotta ask-- does anyone know of a way around this? I read somewhere else that there was a way to "trick" the new kazaa clients into believing that kazaa-lite was actually kazaa... anyone else know anything about this?

[N£MO]

Why is everyone believing what sharman has said?? :blink: Do you really trust them that much?? :unsure:

Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.Seems a bit weird to me.

[sharedholder]

Originally posted by sp00ki@8 December 2003 - 20:35
Apparently, sharman has made changes in the new 2.6 release which refuses connections from k-lite specifically. Since this is a far more significant problem than simply finding a place to download the k-lite client, i've gotta ask-- does anyone know of a way around this? I read somewhere else that there was a way to "trick" the new kazaa clients into believing that kazaa-lite was actually kazaa... anyone else know anything about this?
Why someone don't buy Kazaa Plus and add the new loader?

@Nemo you are right.

[Benno]

Originally posted by N£MO@8 December 2003 - 21:42
Why is everyone believing what sharman has said?? :blink: Do you really trust them that much?? :unsure:

Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.Seems a bit weird to me.
If they dont take the site down a new version could spread much faster. And it would be much easier to downloads especially for newbies.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@8 December 2003 - 19:32
Me too

And ive forced the supernode option now
Maybe it's time for all k-lite users to switch on their supenode function,...I am in to!

[sp00ki]

Originally posted by N£MO@8 December 2003 - 20:42
Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.
No one said anything about blocking access to the fast-track network. The reason they had the software taken down is to keep k-lite users from using their software immediately. The reason they set kazaa 2.6 up to refuse connections from k-lite users (not block access to the network) is to eventually keep k-lite from accessing kazaa nodes (nodes are kazaa, not k-lite the majority of the time), essentially rendering them useless.

[N£MO]

Originally posted by sp00ki+8 December 2003 - 20:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sp00ki @ 8 December 2003 - 20:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-N£MO@8 December 2003 - 20:42
Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.
No one said anything about blocking access to the fast-track network. The reason they had the software taken down is to keep k-lite users from using their software immediately. The reason they set kazaa 2.6 up to refuse connections from k-lite users (not block access to the network) is to eventually keep k-lite from accessing kazaa nodes (nodes are kazaa, not k-lite the majority of the time), essentially rendering them useless. [/b][/quote]
It is the same result at the end of the day,k-lite cannot access the network. :rolleyes:

@Benno,yes fair point. ;)

[imported_Catracho]

Originally posted by nigel123+8 December 2003 - 21:51--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nigel123 @ 8 December 2003 - 21:51)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rat Faced@8 December 2003 - 19:32
Me too

And ive forced the supernode option now
Maybe it's time for all k-lite users to switch on their supenode function,...I am in to! [/b][/quote]
It is time that we lite users force being a supernode. Ive forced lite to be supernode. Hopefully some smart programmer will find a way around this or builds a totally new p2p client.

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by N£MO+8 December 2003 - 21:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (N£MO @ 8 December 2003 - 21:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by sp00ki@8 December 2003 - 20:51
<!--QuoteBegin-N£MO@8 December 2003 - 20:42
Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.
No one said anything about blocking access to the fast-track network. The reason they had the software taken down is to keep k-lite users from using their software immediately. The reason they set kazaa 2.6 up to refuse connections from k-lite users (not block access to the network) is to eventually keep k-lite from accessing kazaa nodes (nodes are kazaa, not k-lite the majority of the time), essentially rendering them useless.
It is the same result at the end of the day,k-lite cannot access the network. :rolleyes:

@Benno,yes fair point. ;) [/b][/quote]
I bet there are more K-lite users than those that have the new 2.6 software.... So we should pull together and show our strength, those who can, should become a supernode, right now!... B)

[sp00ki]

Originally posted by nigel123@8 December 2003 - 21:14
I bet there are more K-lite users than those that have the new 2.6 software.... So we should pull together and show our strength, those who can, should become a supernode, right now!... B)
How do you integrate kazaa 2.6 with kazaalite? Is it really as simple as grabbing the new kazaa.exe file?

[nostalgia]

Okay. I'm supernoding but it took a while to get a proper connection. Everytime a switched supernodes I only got myself.
But now, finally, it worked, 3,733,969 online

[slick nick]

Originally posted by sp00ki+8 December 2003 - 23:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sp00ki @ 8 December 2003 - 23:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@8 December 2003 - 21:14
I bet there are more K-lite users than those that have the new 2.6 software.... So we should pull together and show our strength, those who can, should become a supernode, right now!... B)
How do you integrate kazaa 2.6 with kazaalite? Is it really as simple as grabbing the new kazaa.exe file? [/b][/quote]
Paul posted in another thread of their being an option in k++ 2.1.0 of picking which version it ays it is in your registry. even if it's not i'm sure random nut will enjoy making it just to stick it to sharman.

[hitokri]

Originally posted by sp00ki+8 December 2003 - 22:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sp00ki @ 8 December 2003 - 22:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nigel123@8 December 2003 - 21:14
I bet there are more K-lite users than those that have the new 2.6 software.... So we should pull together and show our strength, those who can, should become a supernode, right now!... B)
How do you integrate kazaa 2.6 with kazaalite? Is it really as simple as grabbing the new kazaa.exe file? [/b][/quote]
Decompiling KMD 2.6 if possible, searching for possible flaws in coding, and then recoding to work without adware/spyware. Quite a long time i suppose, IF anyone was to do something like this. So, maybe 1-2 months if you were lucky, and if you could decompile the executable.

Regarding the supernode option, I'm all up for it. However, people will still need to seed the new p2p network with files -> that means, some people will have to connect to the FastTrack network via KMD and put into shared folder.

Obviously, this will be quite a battle for users of K-lite. I'm looking forward to it with great enthusiasm :D . Though, I'm hoping that we users do win.

[ninjamonkey]

Originally posted by nostalgia+5 December 2003 - 20:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nostalgia @ 5 December 2003 - 20:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Kunal@5 December 2003 - 20:32
Edskes doesnt host kazaa lite k++ no more&nbsp; :(
He has to. In the article on the Dutch techsite it said, that everyone hosting K-lite as download has received a letter from the Dutch lawyer from Sharman that they have to sign a sort of 'I'll never do this again" and have to pay off for so called damage they have done to the advertise business of Sharman. Edskes agreed to stop hosting the download of K-lite but he refuses to sign the letter. [/b][/quote]
whats gunna happen if he doesnt sign?

and who is edskes? is that the site where all the download mirrors were?

[hitokri]

Originally posted by ninjamonkey+8 December 2003 - 23:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (ninjamonkey @ 8 December 2003 - 23:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by nostalgia@5 December 2003 - 20:54
<!--QuoteBegin-Kunal@5 December 2003 - 20:32
Edskes doesnt host kazaa lite k++ no more* :(
He has to. In the article on the Dutch techsite it said, that everyone hosting K-lite as download has received a letter from the Dutch lawyer from Sharman that they have to sign a sort of 'I'll never do this again" and have to pay off for so called damage they have done to the advertise business of Sharman. Edskes agreed to stop hosting the download of K-lite but he refuses to sign the letter.
whats gunna happen if he doesnt sign?

and who is edskes? is that the site where all the download mirrors were? [/b][/quote]
/smells civil legal battle between Sharman and Edskes, Sharman sueing at least 4x as much as they wanted Edskes to pay.

However, his gauruntee that he will not host Klite anymore might make Sharman back off, but give a "warning" to him that if he ever does host klite again, they will seek a lot of money from him.

edit: someone start a poll on enabling supernode function

[Edskes]

@ninjamonkey: I am

[thewizeard]

Originally posted by Edskes@9 December 2003 - 21:45
I am
I wish you luck Edskes, I hope all works out well for you. Oh and thanks for the downloads. If we can help you in any way, just let us know.

Groetjes van nigel

[jetje]

Originally posted by Edskes@9 December 2003 - 22:45
I am
B) :rolleyes: B)

nice work edkes :)

[roxburyguy2]

hey i just created an account just to say that it fucking sucks that this happened...i have used k++ since as long as it has been around...i know i am not a forum regular or anything, i usually just stay in the background and shit but this is fucking bullshit...i have seen it happen before and i have been closely related to an incident that i would rather not talk about and i know what it is like to go through bullshit like this...all i can say is that my hat goes off to all the people that have made k++ happen throughout its history and that even though it may seem like they won, us as a community always come back in new ways and fuck their shit up even more :devil:

[d3v1l]

dose suck that it got shut down but i did decide to put my site back up with klite on it. www.p2p-file-sharing.com

[schadowrave]

Thanks for the downloads all the time Edskes, hope it works out for you ;)

[ThompZen]

Lol, Sharman must spend more money on legal actions then they make on Kazaa if they are going to wipe out KL.. Keep hosting guys :D

[SuBKulture]

Originally posted by N£MO@8 December 2003 - 20:42
Why is everyone believing what sharman has said?? :blink: Do you really trust them that much?? :unsure:

Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.Seems a bit weird to me.
You're absolutely right there; to me this news is more than a little suspect - why would Sharman bother to even give out a warning that they would be preventing pre-2.6 versions from connecting - they would just do it.
And surprise surprise, just a couple of days later, a version of DietK to support 2.6 is released. How incredibly coincidental, or am I just too cynical?

[hitokri]

Its possible that they are lying. But, their story is quite convincing. However, if the kl ++ users are barred from accessing fast track network, I think we have enough supernodes to sustain a sub-network within the fast track network. And since the majority of KL ++ users share quality files, the KMD network will loose those files; creating a junk p2p network, whereas our our sub-network's files will become higher and higher quality, possibly creating a very high quality p2p network. So, I find that the KL community will benifit if Sharman did disconnect all the KL ++ clients based on Kazaa 2.02.

Though, if our community does not have enough supernodes, KL ++ network will die out. So, for those who are willing (and have enough bandwidth), please function as a supernode.

Eventually, users of Sharman's KMD will find the quality of the files shared via their network become so crappy, that they will eventually switch to our network; Therefore, we might be able to put Sharman out of business if enough KMD users move to KL!

[tutv]

Originally posted by SuBKulture+11 December 2003 - 17:50--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (SuBKulture @ 11 December 2003 - 17:50)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-N£MO@8 December 2003 - 20:42
Why is everyone believing what sharman has said?? :blink: Do you really trust them that much?? :unsure:

Ask yourselves this why would they goto all this trouble to get k-lite sites taken down if all they could do is just stop k-lite from accessing the fasttrack network.Seems a bit weird to me.
You're absolutely right there; to me this news is more than a little suspect - why would Sharman bother to even give out a warning that they would be preventing pre-2.6 versions from connecting - they would just do it.
And surprise surprise, just a couple of days later, a version of DietK to support 2.6 is released. How incredibly coincidental, or am I just too cynical? [/b][/quote]
What would happen if they didn't pull the software from here?

Life would go on, and KL++ 2.6 would be on here right now.

[cosmic doobie]

Originally posted by tutv@11 December 2003 - 21:02


Life would go on, and KL++ 2.6 would be on here right now.
If not now i think it won't be long :D

[CZmok]

Huhu K++ 2.6 Loader for KMD 2.6 is out ...

The DownloadMirror is here :

Kazaa Media Desktop 2.6 mit Kazaa Lite K++ Loader (http://www.napsterite.org/K++/kkpp26.zip)

Plz, make 100 of Mirrors of the Kazaa K++ 2.6 !

Gr33tz CZmok ! ;)

[ezy]

:o

[hitokri]

Is this new version actually 2.6? If yes, i'm thinking of spreading the file thru the school network.