Time To Lose The Ghost Towns And Become One

[RealitY]

Considering 7th is now going to openining new URLs with the hopes that there will be new crowds running in like at a buffet thats one dollar on a promotional Sunday then maybe he could ponder this, the changes here have not been good or productive whatsoever, we all thought they would, but it really Sux Balls big time, so maybe we could make a last attempt to save this place and clean house, ffs put it to a fkin vote, as long as this is still a democracy here which I am no longer sure of.

The never ending Worlds were and continue to be a bad idea just spreading us thinner and further away from each other, after all some of those worlds look like ghost towns to me with very little going on compared to the upbeat tempo they had when we were all one. Here is my analogy, take 100 people and put them in a room and it is very busy and rather exciting, now give the same 100 people 10 rooms and it is still interesting but a little quieter, then give them 100 rooms and suddenly it seems rather lonely , how about 1000 rooms, wait wtf, 1000 rooms for 100 people, well wtf is the point of that, can we be bothered to enter all those rooms hoping we can get what we once had when we were all in the same room, I think not.

This appears most noticeable in Filesharing. I remember going into that area a regular basis and seeing a constant turnover of new and interesting things going on, now I see 9 rooms with very little going on since most of us will not visit all those worlds since by nature perhaps we are lazy or we will only go where we know, thus a Shareaza user will never notice IRC has a new feature or that a program such as Mute truly masks your IP since he generally only now visits the one world he is a custom too, which in most cases once a week is enough these days, or may or maybe worse he just doesn't visit any.

Lets just examine Filesharing for now,

1. General Filesharing Talk (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=13)
Well this is fine and most likely all there should be.

2. Bittorent (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=59)
Well it is fairly busy compared to the others but if we want to save this place we need to join together and let egos go. This can be moved under one new heading called Filesharing Applications.

3. E-Mule & E-Donkey (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=57)
Looks like a ghost town to me. It can also easily be combined into a section such as Filesharing Application and will most likely benefit from the move and being simplified since more people will see these post.

4. DC++ (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=73)
Who's idea was this, I see less than 10 post in over a month, give me a break.

5. (M)IRC (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=67)
Something that would simply benefit from more view as well.

6. Shareaza (http://[URL=http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=61)]
Another ghost town with a handful of posts in a month. After all Shareaza has its own forum which I am a member of and I see no point in this especially considering how inactive it is. The biggest post in this section was one of mine which was titled Shareaza Sux Balls (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=92928) which was closed over 2 weeks ago and still remains visible when you enter the area.

7. SoulSeek (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=60)
Well some activity but still rather light and even thou I am a member and user I just don't think 10 or 20 of us need to have our own world. If you want to say anything to me on this FC I can only say Sportsworld is a better idea.

8. Other Related P2P Program Discussions (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=40)
Well have something like Filesharing Applications would make this one obsolete.

9. Filesharers vs. Copyright holders (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=48)
This was a great addition at the time by Paul I think when these issues were flooding the the Filesharing board but seem rather tame now to be standing on its own.


Its clear I am not alone in feeling this way nor do I think anyone really thinks this was a good choice nor do I think any of us would do it again if given the choice.

Originally posted by Adster+--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Adster)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Remember the old days when we had 5 sections??[/b]

<!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder
All the new sections that we have now in the board killed the identy of this forum .[/quote]

Truth is we did this to ourselves, we asked for all these worlds in some sort of hopes of glory that we would be special in having our own world or some stupid reason similar to that anyway. FFS I am not alone on this one and since you will have a wonderful new set of URLs then can we please at least have this fkin one lousy one back...

_________________________________________________


I would like this to be a Poll with two options:

1. Clean House And Get rid Of Some Of The Worlds (We Could Decide Which Later)
2. Keep All The Worlds

Thanks
REALITY

[Mad Cat]

I agree, most of these forums are no longer needed. All the KLite ones could be consolidated into a single forum, since they are seldom used by most.

Merging all those into one forum, like one Other P2P App forum, with many subforums, so as not to clutter the main page, plus it would restore the board to more how it used to be.

[Cheese]

I agree with Reality on this, the admin have really diluted an already winning formula. Change was inevitable with the demise of Klite but sometimes it seems like there are changes made to the board just for changes sake.

Opening new URLs for things like US and UK Top 100s just seems even more ridiculous, I mean don't we have music world for that type of thing?

My vote? Let's go back to basics...

[ck-uk]

I knida of agree maybe a few worlds could go or squeezed in to others.As for the new i dont get the idea its adding to the forum in the sense of new worlds or forums,more along the lines of the social side of fileshring,like a fileshring mall or what you call it,it should be good. :)

[(>Zero Cool<)]

Good post Reality :)

For what it's worth I agree with what has been said up above there are a lot of users I grant you but they are getting rather spread out so perhaps bringing everyone a bit closer could be a good idea. :)

:)

[RealitY]

Time to battle and glad to see you all coming for the fight...

[7thElement]

The only sad thing is that you don't give changes even a chance. There will be no forum additions - but there will be a site attached to this forum.

About dead forums: A lot of them are still beta and we didn't decide yet if we should merge some forums :)

7th is now going to openining new URLs with the hopes that there will be new crowds running in like at a buffet thats one dollar on a promotional Sunday

That's not the idea. The idea is to offer more content to our community.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 04:02
The only sad thing is that you don't give changes even a chance. There will be no forum additions - but there will be a site attached to this forum.
I really don't mind the idea of your new URLs after thinking it through I just want to clean this one up and give it a fighting chance before it gets any worse and as you can see most posts seem to be agreeing with that...

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 12:02
The only sad thing is that you don't give changes even a chance. There will be no forum additions - but there will be a site attached to this forum.

About dead forums: A lot of them are still beta and we didn't decide yet if we should merge some forums :)

7th is now going to openining new URLs with the hopes that there will be new crowds running in like at a buffet thats one dollar on a promotional Sunday

That's not the idea. The idea is to offer more content to our community.
I don't mind extra URLs, just don't like the cluttered forums.

Merge them, I say!

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Mad Cat+7 February 2004 - 04:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Mad Cat @ 7 February 2004 - 04:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 12:02
The only sad thing is that you don't give changes even a chance. There will be no forum additions - but there will be a site attached to this forum.

About dead forums: A lot of them are still beta and we didn't decide yet if we should merge some forums :)

7th is now going to openining new URLs with the hopes that there will be new crowds running in like at a buffet thats one dollar on a promotional Sunday

That's not the idea. The idea is to offer more content to our community.
I don't mind extra URLs, just don't like the cluttered forums.

Merge them, I say! [/b][/quote]
There it is there...

[Cheese]

Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 11:02
The only sad thing is that you don't give changes even a chance. There will be no forum additions - but there will be a site attached to this forum.

About dead forums: A lot of them are still beta and we didn't decide yet if we should merge some forums :)

7th is now going to openining new URLs with the hopes that there will be new crowds running in like at a buffet thats one dollar on a promotional Sunday

That's not the idea. The idea is to offer more content to our community.
Wouldn't it be of interest to you to see how people feel about this issue...perhaps a poll?

[RealitY]

Originally posted by REALITY@7 February 2004 - 01:45
I would like this to be a Poll with two options:

1. Clean House And Get rid Of Some Of The Worlds (We Could Decide Which Later)
2. Keep All The Worlds
I agree and already asked, it also seems obvious what the general opinion is...

[deerslayer]

Reality mentioned a poll. good idea -- seek a consensus here. :)

[sharedholder]

REALITY what do you saing quoting from my post its not all reall.Remember that not all of us are asked for new worlds. :)

[RealitY]

Originally posted by sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 04:32
REALITY what do you saing quoting from my post its not all reall.Remember that not all of us are asked for new worlds. :)
Well I for one didn't ask for new worlds and it appears we agree that they sux and clutter this forum up and have spread us apart without having any benefit that I can see. We were all one here at one time and I still think most of us care about this place still, so why not try to fix things and bring us back together again...

[Adster]

OK I don't see a probably with the original world we once had

but adding in the P2P sections BT Soul seek etc has just gone over the top

what was wrong with posting in movieworld about problems with BT or problems with Soulseek in Musicworld?

I mean i remember the days in Musicworld where myself and the gang would be posting like crazy for hrs and it was addictive, I used to get home looking forward to see what replies there were for a certain thread, now I get home and it will be lucky to get 1 reply the place is just dead.

OK this forum is filesharingtalk OK??

so why do we need top 40 talk???

yes yes we have the lounge for talking shit

but enough is enough

if anything sportsworld is needed

but what i say or Reality says or anyone else says is not going to change anything anyway we have no say on what is getting done we have had members asking for TV World god knows how many times and same for sportswrold and instead we get other sections like top 40 charts crap!!


so be it

oh and another thing about Beta testing and giving it a chance I think it's been 3 months now....

does Beta testing take 3 months normally??

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...4&hl=musicworld (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95474&hl=musicworld)

I made that Post awhile back.But like Spider Dude said.I was Drunk. :blink:


;) And I said it when it first was made.Codecs should be in MovieWorld.Its saying we are more for Movies then Music.


:P But what the Hell man.Its just a Forum.Do what you want 7th.I am going to bed. :P

[Adster]

Yes I never did understand that post of FCs and still don't :blink: :unsure: :blink:

[Rocktron]

Dunno if this should be a Poll later but.. i have a name for it when it does.

" War of the KLF Worlds "
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/War%20of%20the%20KLF%20Worlds2.jpg

Watch the heat ray on our KLF logo..

:rolleyes:

[internet.news]

For me this K-Lite Board always was a nice place to share my thoughts openly
with some nice people - ok, all of you has nice characters in some ways, I think -
as the character counts most.

And this Forum always will remain this kind of place besides offline sharing - that is
why I am always opened if someone wants to visit me for a few days ;) Why not?

In the last time I am more doing offline sharing of my thoughts as I have other
important things to do. If you want me to read through your threads, just PM me and I would have a look and express my impressions.

[Mad Cat]

Originally posted by internet.news@7 February 2004 - 14:42
For me this K-Lite Board always was a nice place to share my thoughts openly
with some nice people - ok, all of you has nice characters in some ways, I think -
as the character counts most.

And this Forum always will remain this kind of place besides offline sharing - that is
why I am always opened if someone wants to visit me for a few days ;) Why not?

In the last time I am more doing offline sharing of my thoughts as I have other
important things to do. If you want me to read through your threads, just PM me and I would have a look and express my impressions.
So, do you want to keep the worlds or not?

What you posted seems totally irrelevant to me.


Poll please !!

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by Rocktron@7 February 2004 - 15:37
Dunno if this should be a Poll later but.. i have a name for it when it does.

" War of the KLF Worlds "
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/War%20of%20the%20KLF%20Worlds2.jpg

Watch the heat ray on our KLF logo..

:rolleyes:
I have the original record of that.

Had no idea they made it into a CD.

:ninja:

[Cheese]

:01: C'mon lets have a poll :01:

Unless you're scared...? :ph34r:

[Benno]

Basically I like the new sections I just think that there are too many. I say lets get rid of the 2 or 3 least populated.
As for the new URLs I dont like judging something I dont know, so I'll wait to see how it looks.

@Ad this wont be new sections on the board but new URLs.

[7thElement]

It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts :)

[internet.news]

I think the World are good as I used them to tell ppl about recently ripped movies -
and it is useful.

I especially used Musicworld to search for a Soundtrack, which was hard to find
and after I bought it I shared it.

And Movieworld, in which I informed ppl that I share a new rip of a movie ;)

:rolleyes:


So, yes, keep the Worlds up!

[internet.news]

Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 16:36
It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts :)
I think, 7th, - that is my impression - that originally there were some sections, and
it was ok. When you addded the new sections, I think it is not so good as you can
more easily use the overview. But at the moment the sections are ok, I would not
add or delete - cause there are already some threads in the new sections - any
section right now. Just take care of them, if you need a new Moderator, I can help
you, seriously. Don't laugh, that is a serious offer. :rolleyes:

[sharedholder]

Originally posted by 7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:36
It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts :)
Sorry, but gonna be too late.Think about it.Like i said in my other post this board started to die :( when his identity was changed from Kazaa Lite Board in Filesharing talk board.Try to post Kazaa Lite in first place like in the past and get rid of all other usless '' worlds '' . :)

[NightStalker]

Originally posted by sharedholder+7 February 2004 - 10:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 7 February 2004 - 10:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:36
It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts :)
Sorry, but gonna be too late.Think about it.Like i said in my other post this board started to die :( when his identity was changed from Kazaa Lite Board in Filesharing talk board.Try to post Kazaa Lite in first place like in the past and get rid of all other usless '' worlds '' . :) [/b][/quote]
sharedholder, Kazaa Lite is becoming non-existent, it is slowly dying and the network as a whole is being flooded with mailous software every day. Why would it change if our identity changed back to "Kazaa Lite Forums", and get rid of the worlds?

[sharedholder]

:lol: An why do you have a link on your signature to Kazaa Lite forums ? :lol: ;)

[7thElement]

Originally posted by sharedholder+7 February 2004 - 15:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 7 February 2004 - 15:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 15:36
It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts :)
Sorry, but gonna be too late.Think about it.Like i said in my other post this board started to die :( when his identity was changed from Kazaa Lite Board in Filesharing talk board.Try to post Kazaa Lite in first place like in the past and get rid of all other usless '' worlds '' . :) [/b][/quote]
The fact is that Kazaa Lite is not longer developed by the old development team. There are many KL forks but they are not a real replacement because it is not centralized at all.

There are no issues regarding the KL site and this board. Everybody agrees that making this board a great P2P portal is the best way instead to let it die. Paul, VB, Error and myself 100% agree to all changes and we all look forward to open our gates asap.

I got some PM's asking me why klitesite.com doesn't link here and many people think that KLitesite.com doesn't support this forum but this is wrong. If there were issues then I would not host klitesite.com myself.

The reason that we don't link here: KLitesite.com generates masses of traffic. I am sure you remember old times when the board was slow and 300 guests were online. Atm everything is fast and reliable.

We know that many people will complain but that's normal. I also talked to Paul about it and his answer was:

"If you go left people complain, if you go right people complain if you go people complain and if you don't go people complain too"

There is no way to make all members happy but we are going to give it a try. We know people will complain, cry about the "old KL board" but we believe in new content and in offering our members new areas (which have NOTHING to do with the board)

[internet.news]

Well said ;)

Only let me correct something: for me the K-Lite Board was never slow,
if it would have been slow I would never been here. Cause I am on dialup.
And this is the only board script (invision), which is fast enough ;) t oshare 1:1
thoughts.

http://internet-news.gmxhome.de/sweet.jpg

[sharedholder]

There is no way to make all members happy but we are going to give it a try. We know people will complain, cry about the "old KL board" but we believe in new content and in offering our members new areas (which have NOTHING to do with the board)


So if you believe in new content of this board how do you explain that this board is dieng ?Not because they are make their forums ( i'm one of those and still coming here ) just because what ? Maybe its a overall problem.Like i said people don't like big changes like we have now ( too many new sections) , we are very confused what is this board or what this board going to be.The web is full with p2p filesharing forums we have enough of mix filesharing forums.Try to make something new and don't let this board to die ! I'm not complaing about the old days , i just sayng that we must have a forum pointed in a stright direction , a specific thing, not filesharing talk.Too many boards are about filesharing.

[RGX]

Poll please

Personally, I agree with REALITY in that I think the filesharing worlds should be put back together. The other worlds in the seperate section (gameworld, movieworld, hardwareworld) are perfectly fine for our needs, and shouldnt be toyed around with. When I first came to this board it was smaller and every section had its own seperate community, and there was always something new to read, wheras now these groups seem to be diminishing, and i think a scaling down and a bit of time might help new groups grow.

[Rocktron]

Originally posted by MagicNakor+7 February 2004 - 16:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MagicNakor @ 7 February 2004 - 16:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Rocktron@7 February 2004 - 15:37
Dunno if this should be a Poll later but.. i have a name for it when it does.

" War of the KLF Worlds "
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/War%20of%20the%20KLF%20Worlds2.jpg

Watch the heat ray on our KLF logo..

:rolleyes:
I have the original record of that.

Had no idea they made it into a CD.

:ninja: [/b][/quote]
Well it did! Connect to soulseek and get it from me... ;)

[NightStalker]

Originally posted by sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 11:00
:lol: An why do you have a link on your signature to Kazaa Lite forums ? :lol: ;)
Well, if you had looked at the forums, you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks. ;)

[sharedholder]

Originally posted by NightStalker+7 February 2004 - 18:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 7 February 2004 - 18:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 11:00
:lol: An why do you have a link on your signature to Kazaa Lite forums ? :lol:&nbsp; ;)
Well, if you had looked at the forums, you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks. ;) [/b][/quote]
Calling a forum '' Kazaa Download Place '' doesn't sound like a '' you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks.'' ;)

[NightStalker]

Originally posted by sharedholder+7 February 2004 - 14:32--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 7 February 2004 - 14:32)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by NightStalker@7 February 2004 - 18:42
<!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 11:00
:lol: An why do you have a link on your signature to Kazaa Lite forums ? :lol:&nbsp; ;)
Well, if you had looked at the forums, you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks. ;)
Calling a forum '' Kazaa Download Place '' doesn't sound like a '' you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks.'' ;) [/b][/quote]
Oh, and let's take a peak into your website:
*sarcasm*
K-Lite tools "Home of the Freeware"?

I thought I would find Kazaa Lite tools, not freeware programs. :rolleyes:

[MagicNakor]

Originally posted by Rocktron+7 February 2004 - 18:55--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Rocktron @ 7 February 2004 - 18:55)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by MagicNakor@7 February 2004 - 16:16
<!--QuoteBegin-Rocktron@7 February 2004 - 15:37
Dunno if this should be a Poll later but.. i have a name for it when it does.

" War of the KLF Worlds "
http://www.chinkii.com/uploads/album/misc/War%20of%20the%20KLF%20Worlds2.jpg

Watch the heat ray on our KLF logo..

:rolleyes:
I have the original record of that.

Had no idea they made it into a CD.

:ninja:
Well it did! Connect to soulseek and get it from me... ;) [/b][/quote]
Why would I do that? My record player still works. :P

:ninja:

[clocker]

Originally posted by MagicNakor@7 February 2004 - 12:33

Why would I do that? My record player still works. :P


That may be but your hamster is geting ready to retire and your steam engine needs some major work...

[MagicNakor]

I upgraded from hamster to husky-team. No worries there.

:ninja:

[internet.news]

Originally posted by sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 17:41
There is no way to make all members happy but we are going to give it a try. We know people will complain, cry about the "old KL board" but we believe in new content and in offering our members new areas (which have NOTHING to do with the board)


So if you believe in new content of this board how do you explain that this board is dieng ?Not because they are make their forums ( i'm one of those and still coming here ) just because what ? Maybe its a overall problem.Like i said people don't like big changes like we have now ( too many new sections) , we are very confused what is this board or what this board going to be.The web is full with p2p filesharing forums we have enough of mix filesharing forums.Try to make something new and don't let this board to die ! I'm not complaing about the old days , i just sayng that we must have a forum pointed in a stright direction , a specific thing, not filesharing talk.Too many boards are about filesharing.
About changes I have to say you something!

Don't force big changes - if you don't to have a disaster like in german policy:
politicians wanted to save money for the household and now the health and the
cultural system here suffer a lot of this :(

Don't force changes - just let the K-Lite Board like it was - changes will come
slowly, I am sure. But don't force changes, be happy like it was before. Forced
changes only leads to complains and uncomfortable feelings.

[RGX]

Originally posted by internet.news@7 February 2004 - 21:47

About changes I have to say you something!

Don't force big changes - if you don't to have a disaster like in german policy:
politicians wanted to save money for the household and now the health and the
cultural system here suffer a lot of this :(

Don't force changes - just let the K-Lite Board like it was - changes will come
slowly, I am sure. But don't force changes, be happy like it was before. Forced
changes only leads to complains and uncomfortable feelings.
Thats actually a good post. The board was succesful the way it was. Why was it changed?

[RealitY]

Originally posted by RGX+7 February 2004 - 09:46--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RGX @ 7 February 2004 - 09:46)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Poll please

Personally, I agree with REALITY in that I think the filesharing worlds should be put back together. The other worlds in the seperate section (gameworld, movieworld, hardwareworld) are perfectly fine for our needs, and shouldnt be toyed around with. When I first came to this board it was smaller and every section had its own seperate community, and there was always something new to read, wheras now these groups seem to be diminishing, and i think a scaling down and a bit of time might help new groups grow. [/b]
Well thats all I was trying to say for now, just tighten it up a bit and maybe a community will emerge again, because what is happening now surely cannot be considered good.


Originally posted by 7thElement +--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (7thElement )</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>There are no issues regarding the KL site and this board. Everybody agrees that making this board a great P2P portal is the best way instead to let it die. Paul, VB, Error and myself 100% agree to all changes and we all look forward to open our gates asap.[/b]
I agree.


<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement @
We know that many people will complain but that's normal. I also talked to Paul about it and his answer was:

"If you go left people complain, if you go right people complain if you go people complain and if you don't go people complain too"[/quote]
I really don't remember Paul being this stubborn, and rather remember him knowing what was best for the community, not just what he wanted, actually I always felt what he wanted what was best for us all, that is clearly no longer the case. Sure people will complain and I guess you can quote that in every post where we do, but it has nothing to do with what really going on.


<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement
There is no way to make all members happy but we are going to give it a try.[/quote]
This sounds rather nice but it is just not the case anymore...

[tracydani]

Originally posted by Benno@7 February 2004 - 17:35
Basically I like the new sections I just think that there are too many. I say lets get rid of the 2 or 3 least populated.
As for the new URLs I dont like judging something I dont know, so I'll wait to see how it looks.

I agree with Benno on this.

I like the separate sections. I peronally have no need to visit each of the sections. Nor do I have the time to wade through all the useless(to me) posts just to find what I am interested in.

We have enough spam/argument posts here at times as it is, I don't want to add to the garbage I have to sort through.

Dump the 3 least used sections next month and see how it goes.

TD

[james_bond_rulez]

well it gives ppl the room to "do it" in.... <_<

but seriously i dont need to have sex in every room if ya know what i mean? gets tiresome after a while :lol:

need to recharge my ballz...... :lol: :lol: :lol:

i am just rambling over here hehehhe


:frusty:

[NotoriousBIC]

Originally posted by REALITY@7 February 2004 - 09:45
4. DC++ (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showforum=73)
Who's idea was this, I see less than 10 post in over a month, give me a break.
That would've been my idea and sadly I won't give you a break.

The new goal of this board was to include other P2P apps better, started by the fact that the old 'Other p2p programs' section in the old-style board was more active than the whole KLite section.
Coupled with the crackdown on Klite and it's subsequent 'negative growth' it seemed sensible (and to me still does) to integrate other p2p-apps more actively.
DC++ wasn't initially one of them, but I petitioned in this thread (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=87562) to include for several reasons (read topic for those).

Finally I fail to grasp the need to cut down on sections other than for esthetic reasons.
Even the less populated ones obviously fill a need and provide a lot of easier to find help than if they would've been stuck away in a 'General' section.

[nanotek]

i also mentioned giving it a forum and also included a small guide as to how to use it .when u look at the fact that there is so much gb worth of stuff being shared ( in the hub im at weve got 209 users sharing 3.90 TB at the moment ) how on earth can u leave this one out with so much being shared and considering the speeds u can also get :lol:

[iMartin]

Yeah, I say clear some of the old, not used forums *cough*BookWorld*cough*.

[MagicNakor]

May as well clear out Internetworld too then. Bookworld has more posts.

:ninja:

[RealitY]

My point is rather simple if you think back

Lets start with this
when u look at the fact that there is so much gb worth of stuff being shared ( in the hub im at weve got 209 users sharing 3.90 TB at the moment ) how on earth can u leave this one out with so much being shared and considering the speeds u can also get
First I never questioned the quantity or quality of the application, truth is if we were all in one group we would see each other more as we did before, also if we were all in one group you would get more views and more people joining making it even better.

Fact of the matter is I have never even looked at DC++ because it appears to be a ghost town, although if you had 1 nice pinned topic in a section such Filesharing Applications I would most likely be a member already.
:)


Also
The new goal of this board was to include other P2P apps better, started by the fact that the old 'Other p2p programs' section in the old-style board was more active than the whole KLite section.
You've made my point for me here, it was more active when we were all one, now that we've been split into little sections it is nothing more than ghost towns.

Can you serious tell me that you wouldn't draw more traffic and prefer to have a pinned topic in one section called Filesharing Applications that everyone would see...
:huh:

[Agrajag]

The way I see it. Visit the worlds you are interested in. Don't visit the worlds you have no interest in. Just ignore the ones that you dont't want to see, they are doing you no harm, but other people mught enjoy them. Theremay not be a post every 2 minutes, but some boards / worlds work that way, there may only be a couple of posts a day, and people still like them.

If you are interested in something then use the search function, you will find out who is talking about it and where they are. I really don't see the point in closing worlds just because they are not really busy. Some of us can both walk at a slower pace and accept that other people are interested in things we are not. I have no interest in hardware world, but why close it. I may visit it once or twice for advice, but I certainly won't hang about there.

[NotoriousBIC]

Originally posted by REALITY@9 February 2004 - 22:16
Can you serious tell me that you wouldn't draw more traffic and prefer to have a pinned topic in one section called Filesharing Applications that everyone would see...
:huh:
Dude, you CAN'T miss them now. :frusty:
Ask any mod/admin around; Pinned topics aren't that conspicious, especially if compared to a whole subsection...

[tracydani]

I ignore pinned topics. Unless they are a guide I am interested in, they just blend in as background noise. Sometimes making a whole page of noise in and of themselves :blink:

I prefer to not have to sort through topics I have no interest in.

TD

[MUSLEMAN]

Originally posted by NightStalker+7 February 2004 - 15:37--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 7 February 2004 - 15:37)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 14:32
Originally posted by NightStalker@7 February 2004 - 18:42
<!--QuoteBegin-sharedholder@7 February 2004 - 11:00
:lol: An why do you have a link on your signature to Kazaa Lite forums ? :lol:* ;)
Well, if you had looked at the forums, you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks. ;)
Calling a forum '' Kazaa Download Place '' doesn't sound like a '' you would see it is not just Kazaa Lite, but mulitple networks.'' ;)
Oh, and let's take a peak into your website:
*sarcasm*
K-Lite tools "Home of the Freeware"?

I thought I would find Kazaa Lite tools, not freeware programs. :rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
maybe your blindness likes to look again, i'll give you a minute to take your foot out of your mouth :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:

[RealitY]

Originally posted by tracydani@9 February 2004 - 15:53
I ignore pinned topics. Unless they are a guide I am interested in
Well point in fact, if it hadn't have been for the mIRC guide that was pinned originally in Filesharing under the one simple heading Other Filesharing Applications I most likely would have never noticed it since I really didn't use IRC much, but thanks to that pinned topic I use it quite often now as it seems much easier for many of us to stumble on good information than search for it...

[tracydani]

That guide came in very hany for me too. I have been using IRC to get about half of the files I download because of it.

My point was not to get rid of pinned topics but to not have too many of them within a section. They tend to get overlooked that way.

This is why I like to have a section for each of the main apps. with pinned guides for them within their section. Easier to find info on the specific app. you like instead of searching through a page of pinned topics only to need to go to the next page to sort through all the combined apps and their discussions.

Less litter within the sections that way(all posts I am not personally interested in are litter to me), and I can easily get to the info I need.

If I decide to look into DC or something else, I will go to that section and look for the pinned guide. Then I will read the supporting topics within that section to get all the help I need.

TD

[RealitY]

Originally posted by tracydani@1 March 2004 - 09:11
My point was not to get rid of pinned topics but to not have too many of them within a section. They tend to get overlooked that way.
Kinda like too many sub sections.
:P :P

This is why I like to have a section for each of the main apps. with pinned guides for them within their section.&nbsp; Easier to find info on the specific app.
Yes it can be quite easy to find anythng in an empty room or ghost town, just not as entertaining or as populated...

[Lamsey]

It took you three weeks to come up with that reply? Good grief REALITY, I knew you were slow but this takes the biscuit :P

[kAb]

well its been a month and the board is still losing traffic.

when are you going to accept the truth that your changes suck 7th?

[supersonic]

I came here to give my opnio if any1 wanna listen to it anyways. I doubt it <_<
I liked this board before, because of the high-traffic and many people the person can make communication with. Personally, the most thing scared people signing up and new commers as you call them is the flamming and name calling..no0B as an example. Anyways, the board was finner before the last changes were made.

I think that Shareaza/BT/ED2K/EMULE/OVERNET and ED2K compatible cleints (eg. Edonkey2ooo) should be considered in the same category, since Shareaza includes them all and some tips/problems and questions
might (or might not) be related to any (if not all) of the above mentioned. Except BT, all the other cleints mentioned above are using edonkey network. Probably more cleints will add this network anyways, such as Morpheus 4, so including most (if not all) of the above cleints in 1 category will not set an ending to Earth IMO.
As others have mentioned, BT problems/Q/T;H/new additions could be posted in movie world, for example.

Many categories made me lose alot of my efforts trying to help people around and exchanging information, since people post the similar or same questions in different worlds, because they can't read all of the posts in all of the new worlds (Search can be used anyway))

I'm actually lazy (as most ppl in here), so I can't be in 10 boards (worlds) at the same time or switching betw33n worlds. I think that will be a waste of time and bandwidth.

Thus, keeping the worlds as they are will cause more trouble then solution to the
traffic. Many stupid or useless posts will be wasted, wasting time/bandwidth and making the board slower and slower.

I agree with most of the people in here about making a nice poll asking for what the majority of the boards members think about the changes. A line or two will be enough to explain the motivation behind choosing one (or moreE) of the options in the poll.

Making more URLs and websites for the same board is a good idea. The board had more popularity, because people will find the board easily with short/fast and more reliable URLs like we had before K-lite got shut-down, where I spent a great deal of my time just trying to find the board, fearing it was wiped-out as well.

Finally, I think that this is actually a majore issue in the board, eliminating some (if not all) of the worlds is highly recommended for the benifit of everyone. Also, other majore actions are recommended as well, such as making new URL, changing the MTF#ing resolution of this board that is n00w giving less readability.

hope this will contribute and add to the opinions of other membe...

[RealitY]

Originally posted by Lamsey@1 March 2004 - 14:36
It took you three weeks to come up with that reply? Good grief REALITY, I knew you were slow but this takes the biscuit :P
Actually I thought I'de let this topic rest for a bit and have lost a bit of interest in trying to fix things or make them better since as you've said this ain't a democracy, a lesson I have a hard time accepting...

[supersonic]

It is good that you actually realised this now (and not never). It is not Ir@q where you have your rights, freedoms and wishes granted :P

[kAb]

I asked for a poll in the poll topic :)

[RealitY]

Originally posted by kAb@1 March 2004 - 21:03
I asked for a poll in the poll topic :)
Well we both know that means jack shit even if there is a poll to be had...

[RealitY]

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[zapjb]

This forum is NOT as vibrant as before. Don't know why. Maybe merging some worlds would help.

But now that I think of it, the past admins (Paul & VB) were the best I've seen anywhere. Don't get me wrong the new ones (Error, 7th & BOT) are doing a great job keeping this place afloat. But I feel no communal direction. No communal say.

But Paul, VB, RN, Edskes (still around),pardon I'm sure I forgot others. All the innovations. The f*ck the establishment attitude. I remember Paul posting some real funny sh*t & it was all true. Just better back then. Dynamic, vibrant, exciting was what it was.

Not now I'm sorry to say. Still fun but not the same. :helpsmile:

[jetje]

Originally posted by zapjb@17 March 2004 - 09:24
This forum is NOT as vibrant as before. Don't know why. Maybe merging some worlds would help.

But now that I think of it, the past admins (Paul & VB) were the best I've seen anywhere. Don't get me wrong the new ones (Error, 7th & BOT) are doing a great job keeping this place afloat. But I feel no communal direction. No communal say.

But Paul, VB, RN, Edskes (still around),pardon I'm sure I forgot others. All the innovations. The f*ck the establishment attitude. I remember Paul posting some real funny sh*t & it was all true. Just better back then. Dynamic, vibrant, exciting was what it was.

Not now I'm sorry to say. Still fun but not the same. :helpsmile:
My guess, back then we all had a common client we used.. K-Lite.
It was pretty easy for Paul and VB in those days to get focus. With the fall of Kazaa we kinda lost our focus. Admin changes aren't a part of the problems but merely a coincedence. After the common interest fell away, people did go their own way to find new p2p clients... that's why we thought that with all our smart members we must be able to provide all the info on clients and tools, we have all the knowledge available.. The intention of the team was to give the members the platform to make a more general p2p forum.
It's up to our members to fill the gaps.


*note...
My guess one of the main reasons for the visitors in here, were the verifieds..
If we could do edonkey hashes or Torrents we would reach new heights. Problem is that we probably never can/will do that. Global laws on p2p/copyrights are changing fast. The way this forum is now (without illegal content) is a reason it can stay on the net forever. That way it's always able to unite the p2p community regardless which client/forum is hot or down and out. We can be a spider in the filesharing web!

[zapjb]

Good points jetje.

[I.am]

Originally posted by jetje@17 March 2004 - 02:21
We can be a spider in the filesharing web!
:lol: Good one!

[j4y3m]

linux world is stupid too...

[SeK612]

I don't mind the changes. I really like additions like "Internet World" and since I have stopped using K++ for most P2P things stuff like the eMule world are great. It saves having to hunt around the net and join different forums for each client.

The change is more of a migration and is neccessary as K++ had been removed from the main site. If the forums had existed as the were they would have struggled even more as no newcomers would be able to find the forums and Sharman would have tried their best to shut the forum down.

Finally whilst its nice to hark back to the "good old days" its never going to be the same. The new admins are here to stay. Paul, VB and RN have all made their decisions to take their leave from the running of this forum and designing of the clients and packages which have been released.

[RealitY]

I just had a thought, we should add aworld about the worlds...

[RGX]

Filesharing worlds discussion :lol:


I agree, we are too spread out, which makes this board boring, cluttered, and just not a fun, fast moving, vibrant place. The only sub-section I would say is still dynamic is the lounge, which is great, but when I first joined EVERY world was as active as that.

Some people wanted new worlds, we got them, they blatantly do not work. Can we change them back, or are we keeping them for posteritys sake?

[bulio]

I agree. We should on have:

bookworld
internetworld
softewareworld
gameworld

AND THATS IT

[Virtualbody1234]

I agree. We should on have:

bookworld
internetworld
softewareworld
gameworld

AND THATS IT
Why include Internetworld and Bookworld in that list? Those are the least used worlds.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by bulio@22 March 2004 - 16:51
I agree. We should on have:

bookworld
internetworld
softewareworld
gameworld

AND THATS IT
What? Get rid of Movieworld and Muiscworld? :blink:

[h1]

Originally posted by stupidguy@17 March 2004 - 04:57
linux world is stupid too...
I just know you're doing your job depriving a village somewhere of an idiot.

[4th gen]

Originally posted by haxor41789+22 March 2004 - 21:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (haxor41789 @ 22 March 2004 - 21:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stupidguy@17 March 2004 - 04:57
linux world is stupid too...
I just know you're doing your job depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. [/b][/quote]
How many different people actually post in/visit linuxworld?

[h1]

More than in News & Story Comments, General Codecs Discussion, Codec Pack Development, DC++, Shareaza, all Verifieds, Graphic Design, Webdevelopment, and Tutorials.

That and it's the newest section.

[Cheese]

Originally posted by haxor41789@22 March 2004 - 22:24
More than in News & Story Comments, General Codecs Discussion, Codec Pack Development, DC++, Shareaza, all Verifieds, Graphic Design, Webdevelopment, and Tutorials.

That and it's the newest section.
5. :)

[4th gen]

Originally posted by Withcheese+22 March 2004 - 22:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Withcheese @ 22 March 2004 - 22:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@22 March 2004 - 22:24
More than in News & Story Comments, General Codecs Discussion, Codec Pack Development, DC++, Shareaza, all Verifieds, Graphic Design, Webdevelopment, and Tutorials.

That and it's the newest section.
5. :) [/b][/quote]
Yep...RapFan has more accounts than that ;)

[Cheese]

Originally posted by 4th gen+22 March 2004 - 22:38--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4th gen @ 22 March 2004 - 22:38)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Withcheese@22 March 2004 - 22:29
<!--QuoteBegin-haxor41789@22 March 2004 - 22:24
More than in News & Story Comments, General Codecs Discussion, Codec Pack Development, DC++, Shareaza, all Verifieds, Graphic Design, Webdevelopment, and Tutorials.

That and it's the newest section.
5. :)
Yep...RapFan has more accounts than that ;) [/b][/quote]
Mind, it's still busier than Talk Club. :lol:

[h1]

:rolleyes: So you're implying that 5 members have made a thousand posts?

I forgot Talk Club though. :lol:

[4th gen]

Originally posted by haxor41789@22 March 2004 - 22:51
:rolleyes: So you're implying that 5 members have made a thousand posts?

I forgot Talk Club though. :lol:
There are a lot of members here who've made more than 1000 posts (especially now that the lounge is counted ;) )

[Cheese]

Originally posted by haxor41789@22 March 2004 - 22:51
:rolleyes: So you're implying that 5 members have made a thousand posts?

I forgot Talk Club though. :lol:
I would say you've made the majority of the posts yes. :)

[h1]

:lol: LOL @ 4th, I meant five members posting 1000 times between them in Linux World.

[bulio]

Originally posted by haxor41789+22 March 2004 - 22:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (haxor41789 @ 22 March 2004 - 22:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-stupidguy@17 March 2004 - 04:57
linux world is stupid too...
I just know you're doing your job depriving a village somewhere of an idiot. [/b][/quote]
Linux world is like on of the best places!!!! :angry:

[supersonic]

yea riight. Why won't we make windows world, Lindows World, Mac OSX world, DOS world, OSX world, Unix/Linux world (already th3r3) and did I forget any other OSes we can also include to make everything worse that it is?
we can merge some worlds to make them MULTIMEDIA world (jk). Anyways, 7th, Error and b0t won't listen to whatever we say :lol: (jk).

[bulio]

dc++ has to go, it's dead, and so does edonkey/emule <_<

[LSA]

Why delete worlds?

It makes things better organized.

[bulio]

edonkey/emule section can be merged into one ;)

[sArA]

I agree that there are perhaps too many worlds. It has gone a little sparse these days. I was around when wherever you looked, there was a familiar name on a thread. There are many worlds I never look at as they are not relevant or interesting for me. I wonder if the worlds should just be sub worlds and then people can just enter the main heading of their choice. This would at least make the board more navigable. Still, I don't know of a real solution.

Tired... off to bed...

Oh...I think a poll would be a good idea too ;)

[bulio]

yeah, a what forums should we merge or lose?

[junkyardking]

Originally posted by jetje@17 March 2004 - 09:21

If we could do edonkey hashes.
Actualy you can do ed2k links, but with a few of the ed2k sites including the biggest one getting shutdown it seems Admin have lost interest in creating a website/database....

[RealitY]

Originally posted by LSA@22 March 2004 - 17:34
Why delete worlds?
Where have you been...

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

;) SoulSeek should be a subforum in MusicWorld.It is where most go for Music.

:D Talked about this before though. :D

:huh: Well I guess we could do a Poll on what Program most use for Music.Or has that been done? :huh:

[bulio]

I agree with funky, soulseek should be a sub-category of musicworld B)

[jetje]

or musicworld a subcategory from soulseek ;) :lol:

[TRshady]

Dont like seeing some people jumping on the bandwagon and having a go at making things hard for 7th. The place was amazing before, loved it and is the only forum Ive stayed. Having the owners suddenly leave, was bound to place a load of pressure on the 'replacements' ... and I think 7th has been doing great.

Coming up with new ideas and trying to make something of this place, where I can easily imagine another owner would have simply kept the forum open and changed team members about to give those who moan a higher status to keep everyone happy.

but .... please at least give us a poll 7th!
I agree that there are far to much .... and limiting them would make the place more active as we wouldn't have to travel into the unknown to come across something we might wanna reply too.

[bulio]

Originally posted by TRshady@24 March 2004 - 19:43
Dont like seeing some people jumping on the bandwagon and having a go at making things hard for 7th. The place was amazing before, loved it and is the only forum Ive stayed. Having the owners suddenly leave, was bound to place a load of pressure on the 'replacements' ... and I think 7th has been doing great.

Coming up with new ideas and trying to make something of this place, where I can easily imagine another owner would have simply kept the forum open and changed team members about to give those who moan a higher status to keep everyone happy.

but .... please at least give us a poll 7th!
I agree that there are far to much .... and limiting them would make the place more active as we wouldn't have to travel into the unknown to come across something we might wanna reply too.
we need a pool, I gotta agree.

merge emule/dc++

merge soulseek into sub-section of musicwould

[Cyril]

Yes, think a poll is the way to go as seems everyone has an opinion.

[Busyman]

What would a poll be for? Our benefit?

7th implements worlds as HE sees fit. Nothing more.

I recall a polls for

FriendWorld

Sportsworld

TV World

Even if they received numerous votes for it........they were never implemented. :huh:

Some of the suggestions made here are easily logical but who ever said logic wins.

We've got a Talk Club that doesn't work for god's sake....yet....it's still there.
I recall a pinned topic in World News about a very small earthquake in California.
I think it received 10 responses.

All it takes is bit of logic to rearrange the worlds. Some worlds are so sparse that they shouldn't even be worlds at all, just pinned or lumped with similiar categories.

[kAb]

Originally posted by bulio+24 March 2004 - 19:34--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (bulio @ 24 March 2004 - 19:34)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-TRshady@24 March 2004 - 19:43
Dont like seeing some people jumping on the bandwagon and having a go at making things hard for 7th. The place was amazing before, loved it and is the only forum Ive stayed. Having the owners suddenly leave, was bound to place a load of pressure on the 'replacements' ... and I think 7th has been doing great.

Coming up with new ideas and trying to make something of this place, where I can easily imagine another owner would have simply kept the forum open and changed team members about to give those who moan a higher status to keep everyone happy.

but .... please at least give us a poll 7th!
I agree that there are far to much .... and limiting them would make the place more active as we wouldn't have to travel into the unknown to come across something we might wanna reply too.
we need a pool, I gotta agree.

merge emule/dc++

merge soulseek into sub-section of musicwould [/b][/quote]
no offense, but those two are not alike at all.
dc++ sux0rs :P

[NotoriousBIC]

Indeed it sucks...at tremendous speeds
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Apart from that I think it's not a good idea to merge worlds.
Especially not edonkey and dc++ as they're not alike AT ALL.

You'll only sacrifice clarity and get nothing in return.

[Busyman]

I think alot of people forget the reasons for separate worlds.

One is for clarity yes but the other is for popularity even more so.
If a world harldy gets responses/new topics a merge is due.

Other Filesharing Applications ;)

I have perused th board and noticed a ton of overlaps, barely used worlds, and worlds that are almost exactly alike.

Look at Codec Pack Development and Codec Pack Discussion.

First off you just need a Development section. Nothing more. Codec Pack Development is a ridiculous subsection.

If clarity is an issue there should be TV World but we just post it in Movieworld. Pretty simple.

[RealitY]

Originally posted by TRshady+24 March 2004 - 11:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (TRshady @ 24 March 2004 - 11:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Dont like seeing some people jumping on the bandwagon and having a go at making things hard for 7th. [/b]
I never said any of this was the fault of 7th, the truth is we did this to ourselves. When 7th first arrived here he seemed like he wanted to make changes and try to make us all happy, which never works as he was supposedly told Paul.

If I remember correctly many of us here thought the new worlds would be a good idea and he was happy to oblige, though none of us had the foresight that it might actually cause separation between us.

Unfortunately it appears as 7th stay here has moved on he has become rather jaded and not as eager to care about how we feel or maybe even his judgment has possibly become clouded for what is even best for this forum, I say this based on some comments he has made and the fact that he seemed possibly annoyed and insulted by some of the recent activities and comments around here and directed toward him, which I could hardly blame him for. I'm not even sure if he gives a shit anymore and I definitely know he doesn't care as much as he used to.

All it takes is bit of logic to rearrange the worlds. Some worlds are so sparse that they shouldn't even be worlds at all, just pinned or lumped with similar categories.

Thats exactly how it was and if it was the way it is now I would've never found Noob Irc Help as an example which at the time was just a pinned topic. Unfortunately some people as we have seen think having their own world makes them special as if to have their names in lights.

merge emule/dc++

The merging of eDonkey and DC++ seems rather confusing, I think that Shareaza merging with eDonkey would make more sense and in all truth DC++ just can back where it once was in Other P2P Apps. Although as Ive said before there should be just General Filesharing and Other P2P Apps And Tools as it once was.

<!--QuoteBegin-7thElement@7 February 2004 - 07:36
It's simply too early to decide if we merge some forums again or not. Give it a month or two and we will see if it makes sense to merge parts[/quote]
Well its been well over a month commander so what are your thoughts now...

[NotoriousBIC]

Originally posted by Busyman@25 March 2004 - 06:11
I think alot of people forget the reasons for separate worlds.

One is for clarity yes but the other is for popularity even more so.
If a world harldy gets responses/new topics a merge is due.

Other Filesharing Applications ;)
I don't know what popularity's gotta do with things if your goal is to provide information and help.

Those worlds are not for just talking you know. ;)

If they were for poularity we would have a lot of lounges.
As it is now it gives peeps and guests an easy to find place for info and help.

I don't see libraries merging their French section into 'Other Languages'. (although you Americans might do that :lol: )


p.s. Don't attack this allegorical example. It is just that; an example.

[Busyman]

Originally posted by NotoriousBIC+25 March 2004 - 09:52--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NotoriousBIC @ 25 March 2004 - 09:52)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Busyman@25 March 2004 - 06:11
I think alot of people forget the reasons for separate worlds.

One is for clarity yes but the other is for popularity even more so.
If a world harldy gets responses/new topics a merge is due.

Other Filesharing Applications ;)
I don't know what popularity's gotta do with things if your goal is to provide information and help.

Those worlds are not for just talking you know. ;)

If they were for poularity we would have a lot of lounges.
As it is now it gives peeps and guests an easy to find place for info and help.

I don't see libraries merging their French section into 'Other Languages'. (although you Americans might do that :lol: )


p.s. Don't attack this allegorical example. It is just that; an example. [/b][/quote]
No BIC you have to look at popularity AND clarity.

An example was Codec Pack Development. It should be in simply...Development.


Now if Codec Pack Development generated tons of chatter, it should remain on it's own.....but it doesn't.

Got me? You don't need a menu category for EVERYTHING.

[Peerzy]

@ 7th ELEMENT


And still 7th will defend everything he does and say that we are wrong and his way is better <_< .

Im starting to give up on here really...im just waiting for the 'Ultimate 7th Element Forum' to be the new name.

There are points which 90% of the members will think one answer but 1 person will think differently and he is so important that he makes the the choice no matter what, and after 1 month and a half he is to scared to make this a poll. Juts make this a poll 7th if your so sure this is the way to go, if more people vote for your changes then i will apologies but at least gie the coomunity the chanch to choose. After all this is psose to be a community not just a one man show calling all the shots.

Now poll it or it will show that you know as well as i do that not enough people like the changes to warrent them, but u suddenly count as thousands of people.

So whatda say, punk... ya gonna make my day....... <_<

[CoolMac]

i don't want to sound offensive but...
i don't see why should having more forums kill the spirit of the board.
Maybe it's because we live on differen worlds and have very different feelings,or maybe just because i don't have as long time as you have been on this board,but...
i'm just giving my opinion

[Arm]

Originally posted by NotoriousBIC@25 March 2004 - 00:56
Indeed it sucks...at tremendous speeds
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:o :o DAMN THATS FAST! :o

:( I wish I could download shit that fast.