Time To Bomb Saddam

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

:lol: :lol: http://www.bigfatbaby.com/newfun2/flash/saddam.swf :lol: :lol:

[jetje]

:D lol the link is funny :D

Hope that it never comes that far

http://members.home.nl/admit/giffies%20uploaded/unclesam1.gif

[deckard]

I'm with you, Jetje. I hope it does not come to that. Oh, it's not like the SOB isn't way due, and you're right too, Funky, we should have finished it twelve years ago.

But I'm really afraid of the implications of a US willing to impose unilateral conditions on another nation...You guys ever read John Keegan? I just finished his "A History Of Warfare" and ironically, one of his conclusions was that the world is moving away from that Clausewitzian application of force and to support it he referred to the '91 Gulf war as "(the deprivation of of its illegal sequestration of territory achieved without the infliction of significant civilian casualties and authorized lby United Nations resolution)...the first genuine triumph of (the concept of) just war morality...since defined...in the seventeenth century."

We need consensus to do it, and it's just not there...not yet.

BTW, Jetje, Funky, I told my network buddy about my decision to stop downloading and he laughed. "I'll give you about a week," he said. "Two, tops"

At stake is a case of Guinness if he wins, a case of Grolsch for me if not. :P

[El_Jefe]

As long as it starts after May 1 of next year, I say bombs away.
I'll be done with my inactive reserve obligation by then :)

[Guest]

Don't ask FC if he has read "A history of Warfare" by John Keegan, he's only just started on the Where's Waldo books :D

[blobus]

do u really think Bush wants to make war in irak to help people in irak or because he doesn't like dictators ? He doesn't give a fuck about all this ! He just wan't to control petrol that's all. Saddam Hussein could be satan himself and have all massive destruction weapons he wants if he was a friend of USA. Pinochet was an horrible dictator and no american president has ever care as long as it was the CIA that put him in power...
Just a question of money and power nothing else. People die for this everyday and american president enjoy

(Sorry for my english...I'm french)

I hope intelligent american understand that usa can't just do what they want with the planet

[CantBeArsedLoggingIn]

If you have any kind of interest in Bush, war, corruption in American Government, your lives and the lives of your loved ones then you really should check THIS (http://www.kazaalite.ath.cx/bb/index.php?act=ST&f=5&t=4041) out! Not all Americans are stupid - but the stupid ones tend to have the biggest mouths lol.

[ugluk]

:lol: very funny!! :lol:

it's about god damn time to bomb the evil motherfucker!! :D

[deckard]

Sorry, CantBeArsedLoggingIn...I can't dl anything for at least two weeks...there's a case of Grolsch involved here...priorities are priorities, you know...wars may come and wars may go, but twenty-four Grolsches are a thing to cherish... :D

Also you're right, blobus, there is that nagging inconsistency in American foreign policy, but we have to set it right sooner or later. I'd like to see the US (hopefully in concert with a bunch of other democratic nations, among them your own) lay a heavy hand on some other corrupt despotic regimes, whether they have oil or not or the possibility that they might represent a huge market for new McDonald's franchises...

BTW (again) it would be nice if contributors nations or cities were available in the user post...I can't speak french but could stumble along a little in German or Spanish...

[Rat Faced]

Its upto the users to control their profile.

If they want you to know, or dont mind it'll be there.

If they dont, they can hide it.... and everyone already knows my views on this topic.

A Poll in Britain showed that almost as many people distrusted Bush as Hussain...and MORE thought he was a bigger threat to world peace.

[tracydani]

deckard,
If we don't make it possible for new Mc Donald's frachises in these countries, where are the American tourists gonna eat? :lol: :lol:

[Rat Faced]

tracydani Posted on Nov 22 2002, 06:02 PM
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deckard,
If we don't make it possible for new Mc Donald's frachises in these countries, where are the American tourists gonna eat?    

LMAO

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
http://199.72.125.57/Wayne/gifs/anim/badtaste.gif

[iBLoStboY]

Funny! check it out (http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/osamabox/)


There is something really funny on here about OSama click new Stuff - Osama + Saddam = 1 :lol:

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

Originally posted by iBLoStboY@Nov 22 2002, 03:21 PM
Funny! check it out (http://www.joecartoon.com/pages/osamabox/)
;) What does a fly and Santa Claus got to do with Saddam Husain? ;)

[deckard]

I'm not sure either FC -- & I wonder why all the conversation in this and like topics seems to get shifted to the US and what a terrible nation it is. Like this nation has committed some terrible aggression ...doesn't anybody remember what Saddam Hussein has done?

In no particular order

Nerve gassed the Kurdish minority in Northern Iraq (part of his own constituency).

Invaded Kuwait with the intent of illegal acquisition of territory.

Waged war against Iran with the same intent.

Has very likely provided funding and support to paramilitary organizations whose intent is the infliction of civilian casualties.


And in the category of suppositions...

That regime (under that man's personal control) is trying to develop both nuclear weapons and delivery systems

Has thousands of tons of bio/chemical weapons hidden away

Wishes to eliminate the state of Israel.


I don't for one moment think that our nation or government is innocent or blameless (very little in Weltpolitik is) but I am wracking my mind to think of anything comparable, at least in very recent history.

Between 1965 and 1973 our leadership very much wanted to eliminate the state of North Vietnam and its nascent unification with South Vietnam.

Since 1945 the US has maintained the worlds most extensive arsenal of weapons of mass destruction (but hasn't used them)

Has since 1975 deposed or been instrumental in the deposition of the legally elected governments of Chile and Grenada.

Has supplied the undeveloped nations with much of their lethal weaponry. (But then so has China and the former Soviet Union and now Russia) (not that it makes it OK)

But:

No Americans, no Britons, no Germans, no French, no Danes, no Scandinavians (etc etc you get the idea) have organized in paramilitary groups to kill civilians and destroy property in foreign lands. Prior to 9/11 the worst terrorist activity commited upon American soil was accomplished by an American.

And there is no organized support network among those nations encouraging people to do so.

So it just comes down to this: some of the practices of the Middle Eastern Governments have to be curtailed and brought into conformity with wider world values. That includes Israel, too. But I don't think that it's an easy thing to do...the USA can more easily stomp Hussein's plutocracy than it can persuade Israel to adopt a more rational and farsighted attitude toward its expansionist policies...

& I am not fond of the embargo & blockade against Iraq, think that it hurts everyone there except their elite, i.e. just the ordinary people...

(I realize that I am opening up a big can of worms here but I am prepared for the fierce debate!)

[jetje]

Don't know what Santa has gotta do wit sadam except the 1st letter and that probably ain't gonna be bombed while Santa hangs around (so that's why i hope he stays forever). But sure those Joe cartoons are Freakin' funny :D :D :D :D

btw back on topic. I am not against the US. But i am against war in general. And i think the politicians in the US uses War for popularity and political reasons not to keep the world a safe place. Ever seen the movie "Wag The Dog"? Think it so close to the real thing. Speaking of movies, if you talk about war so easy
you must see Black Hawk Down. I thought was a very realistic movie, and it was for our weakhearted souls modified. Think real life was even tougher. If you see that, who wants war? It must be politicians, people in the war/weapon industry.... They're the only one benefitting of war.

[El_Jefe]

@deckard

I don't really disagree with you on any of the above, but I think alot of the international community and some americans believe that we're just too hypocritical in the application of our foreign policy. Israel and it's military actions against the Palistinians are widely condemned by the international community, yet endorsed by the US. Yet, the US expects other nations to bow to world wide expectations, when it serves its interests.
We demand that Iraq provide full disclosure and disarmament because to the threat they represent. Yet, we do next to nothing about North Korea. North Korea consistantly has made threats against the US and its neighbor nations. They've test fired long range ballistic missiles. They provide missile technology to other rogue nations. Their people have had a consistent diet of tree bark for the last five years. Yet their military doesn't suffer the hardships of famine and drought. What have we done about them? A country that represents a real threat to the international community and world peace. We cut off their heating oil shipment.

Until we become a little more reasonable in our overall foreign policy, I can't imagine that the rest of the world will whole heartedly jump on the band wagon of every American crusade.

[deckard]

Jefe, I couldn't agree with you more!

Without a consistent US foreign policy based on universally accepted ethics and standards, we're going to get trashed no matter what we do. And I am so disappointed that we have not followed up on our promise to do right by Afghanistan. If we're not helping those poor people, then I ashamed for my nation, regardless of our current economy. And cutting off the heating oil for the people of North Korea is shameful.

BTW, you are in the service, I think? I saw somewhere that you are located somewhere in South Korea?

I remember that we still maintain a large force in SK...

[El_Jefe]

Originally posted by deckard@Nov 23 2002, 09:19 PM
BTW, you are in the service, I think? I saw somewhere that you are located somewhere in South Korea?


Yes, I'm near Seoul, but I'm not in the service anymore. I'm here as a civilian contractor.

Yes, Afganistan is another embarrasment to the US. We talk about the virtues of democracy, and we let that country fall back into the same situation that allowed the Taliban to take control. I know presidents have said the US is not in the business of nation building, but I think that there's nothing wrong with it if it serves the greater good of the international community. It worked in Germany and Japan following WW2. If fact, in the case of Afganistan, it should probably be considered a responsibility of ours.

[Rat Faced]

Err, sorry to disagree but both Americans and British HAVE been involved in illegal action causing loss of life on foreign lands.

I believe that you'll find that your 'Kissinger' is wanted by the international court for crimes against humanity....of course the USA doesnt recognise the International Court when it suites them, and doesnt hand him over. Despite that he's caused the death of thousands of Americans (indirectly) as well as being directly resposible for thousands of foreign deaths.

Its widely known that British SAS have helped in other places training Guerillas against those legal governments you mention...but again nuff said.

During the Cold War, USA and USSR were playing games with bringing down foreign governments left right and centre to give a better world order in their favour....how any foreign people died in these games of ours?

Im not anti American as ppl seem to believe. I HATE any GOVERNMENT that acts like this, including my own....indeed its worse when its my own because they are doing it IN MY NAME...which I will not keep quiet about. :angry:

[El_Jefe]

Originally posted by Rat Faced@Nov 23 2002, 10:19 PM
I believe that you'll find that your 'Kissinger' is wanted by the international court for crimes against humanity....of course the USA doesnt recognise the International Court when it suites them, and doesnt hand him over. Despite that he's caused the death of thousands of Americans (indirectly) as well as being directly resposible for thousands of foreign deaths.

He shouldn't count, he's not really American. He's got that funny accent :D
Plus he's such a lovable and cuddly looking fellow. :D

Actually, in recent interviews, Kissinger really regrets alot of the actions and inactions that took place by the US government when he was a part of it. Not that it excuses it, of course.

[Rat Faced]

Nevertheless, he cant go to a lot of countries as he'd be arrested immediatly.

In fact he was lucky to get out of the UK earlier this year :lol:

That caused a lot of trouble for Blair, because the courts pointed out he should have been arrested and handed over....but the poodle didnt do it :angry:

[random nut]

It's the winners that write the history books and it's the losers that get convicted of crimes when the war is over. Has been like this forever, it's going to be like this as long as humans still exist.

[Guest]

The reason USA lets North Korea get away with it is simple...it doesnt have any OIL.

Its not just the USA thats hypocritical this way, just about every country is. The difference is that Americans by nature are quite insular, and just want the rest of the world to get on with what they want and leave them alone..the government though HAS to get involved as its a superpower.

The governments supporters are all big business (in Bushes case the Oil Companies in particular), and so the foreign policy changes each time in the favour of whoever is lining the current presidents pocket (oops sorry; campaign costs)

The Oil Companies want Big Profits; not environmental costs so the Kiato Agreement is thrown out. Iraq has HUGE Oil Deposits (2nd largest in the world) so the regime HAS to be removed (but dont mention that WE gave him the Gas to kill the Kurds, or that they were revolting because the USA promised to help...and then just left them to die). The Taliban wont hand Bin Laden over (they probably couldnt have if they'd wanted to) so lets bomb the shit out of them and change the regime, and oh yes about that big Oil Pipeline we've wanted for years but the Taliban wouldnt let be built through their country...lets just put all those US bases on the route we want and start to build it.

North Korea though...why bother? They have nothing WE want, let them get on with it..

Burma...killed more of their own people than Iraq ever did...got nothing we want..let them get on with it.

Palestine? Israel cant do ANYTHING wrong, lots of Jewish businessmen with deep pockets in the USA make sure thats the case.

War on Terrorrism...lot of Irish Americans, so lets NOT class the Real IRA as terrorists and let them keep raising money in the US of A and let them buy their bombs here. (But we better not let the public know)

I find that the American public in GENERAL are not informed about what is happening in the world around them, whereas in most places you get the news from many different sources and countries. This makes it MUCH harder for the media and government to manipulate the population (not impossible, just harder)

[FuNkY CaPrIcOrN]

:D Has anybody clicked on the link lately,I thought it was funny so I posted it,I screwed up and should of posted it in the joke section......my bad. :D

[Rat Faced]

That was me above, for some reason the registrations playing up on me again.

<_<

[jetje]

Originally posted by Guest@Nov 23 2002, 04:02 PM
The reason USA lets North Korea get away with it is simple...it doesnt have any OIL.

Its not just the USA thats hypocritical this way, just about every country is.

I find that the American public in GENERAL are not informed about what is happening in the world around them, whereas in most places you get the news from many different sources and countries. This makes it MUCH harder for the media and government to manipulate the population (not impossible, just harder)
So true, so true....

interesting fact
You know there was a result on a poll (FC did you joined that one?) that they had in the USA. The result was that over 80% of the Americans don't even know where Iraq is on the world map....? Think if the US bomber pilots are amongst them, they're gonna bomb a lot of wrong places again... ;)

[jetje]

just hear a nice synical joke on dutch tele:

If the americans are so badly after the oil, they don't have to risk a war, they can go to Spain, just scrape it right of the rocks.

[Rat Faced]

Thats not nice....although they did bring it on themselves :lol:

[deckard]

Jetje, I think that level of ignorance is a human condition and not strictly confined to the U.S. If you've watched Jay Leno's Streetwalking segments on The Tonight Show you will have noticed that our popular media has not let the situation go without comment.

And El Jefe, you are so right. The Marshall Plan should be the gold standard for American foreign policy, though I'm not so naive as to think that it was altogether altruistic...after all, after WWII we were the only nation that hadn't been bombed and/or invaded...the only with an intact industrial plant which had in fact tripled in capacity...the only nation with money to spend (the only nation with the atomic bomb) :( & investing in Europe was absolutely essential if we wanted markets for all that stuff.

But I agree, we have a deep responsibility to those poor people in Afghanistan, at least as signigicant as that to our own victims of 9/11...and if we invade Iraq then we will acquire that obligation as well.

(edited for minor clarification)

[deckard]

Also, Blackhawk Down was a great movie. A tragedy within a tragedy compounded by good intentions...

[Rat Faced]

You are so true deckard.

A recent Poll showed that over 20% of the UK did not know who was the Chancellor of the Exchequer, 65% did not know who their MP was, 15% did not know who the President of the USA was etc etc.

However there will always be the ignorant in every country. Its much harder to manipulate the populations in Europe by politicians and the media though...coz we can always see what the other countries are getting told. ie A balanced viewpoint.

Why listen to the propaganda of my government (pro war), when I can listen to the French (anti war) and German (neutral) as well.

Luckily the UK press know this, so you tend to get more papers speaking out against the Government...even when they can get accused of not being Patriotic. Mind they are ALL a bunch of lying bastards in Westminster and so are the press :lol:

[deckard]

Yeah, in the US you pretty much have to actively pursue alternative viewpoints 'cause it's just not widespread, tho PBS does a pretty good job with its current events programming.

Europe has always had a much more cosmopolitan culture...I love it!

[Rat Faced]

:lol: Pros and Cons.

You go next to the next state and they still speak the same Language (Except in Kentucky judging by FC :lol: )

Scandinavia and Northern Europe most people can speak it as a second language (although Germans sometimes find it funny to let you think they cant) but in places like France...Im sure the French Government activly discourage people learning it. On the other hand I cant speak French (or any other language)..its only compulsary until age14...and that was a long time ago.

:( <_< :lol:

[Rat Faced]

Just bringing this back to the top, coz the kids wont stop playing that bloody song :lol:

[deckard]

Sorry, RF, what song is that?

[zapjb]

The answer is fuel from CORN. <_<

[Rat Faced]

Just bringing this to the top....my kids cant get enough of it <_<

[----Dawn----]

I watched Blackhawk Down - its a great film - but where are all the cartoon rabbits? :blink:

[deckard]

Dawn, I believe that Bugs Bunny is somewhere off in 1943, fighting Nazis. Remember, I am way Deutsch or I wouldn't mention the subject. And I happen to know that he was also at war against the Japs. (Apologies to anyone of Nipponese heritage, but that is what we called Japanese Nazis in that war, the ones that murdered POWs and slaughtered Chinese civilians)

And Roger Rabbit is drinking himself silly in some low class Los Angeles Bar.

Sorry, those are all the cartoon rabbits I could think of.

[----Dawn----]

Lol - sorry - that was Watership Down - I always get those mixed up! ;)

[deckard]

I see... :blink:

[----Dawn----]

It was just a crap joke lol. :) Don't worry about it mate.

[deckard]

Not a worry here, dude.

[TRAVELBUG]

HAD THIS IN A EMA
>truly earned the appellation "The Great One"), he
>pales a bit by comparison to Frank McGee's Stanley Cup
>Playoff records, which took place pre-NHL, so don't
>make most of the record books: The record for most
>goal scoring in the Stanley Cup Playoffs is still held
>by Frank McGee. He scored 63 goals in 22 games in
>the 1902-1906 Stanley Cup Playoffs. In the regular
>1905 season, McGee scored 71 goals in 23 games. On
>Jan. 16, 1905, McGee scored 14 goals in a Stanley Cup
>game, as Ottawa trounced Dawson City, Yukon 23-2.
>That is still a Stanley Cup record. In that game,
>McGee scored eight consecutive goals in eight minutes
>and 20 seconds. Three of these came in a span of 90
>seconds and the fourth came 50 seconds later.
>
> * Air pollution is estimated to be a "major
>contributing factor" in nearly 140,000 premature
>deaths in North America. Terrorism, by contrast, has
>killed about 5,000 people in North America since, say,
>1900. Guess which causes the most concern and
>paranoia? (ok, i admit this is not a "fact", but a
>social commentary - our society is heavily influenced
>by two ugly forces which actually belong to the same
>coin: greed and fear. The odd thing about the fear
>side of the social equation is that people do not
>usually fear things that happen every day, all the
>time - automobile accidents, parental abductions,
>child and spousal abuse, drug overdoses, iatrogentic
>(ie, "medical system"-associated) errors, deaths from
>air and other pollution, etc. What they fear most is
>the unexpected - airplanes crashing into buildings,
>gunmen in dark alleys, stranger abductions, anthrax in
>the mail..... vast amounts of worry, energy,
>attention, paranoia and taxpayer dollars are spent
>trying to prevent a few unexpected events, while by
>contrast the vast majority of the negative forces in
>our world are simple accepted as "the usual" - the
>normal, un-newsworthy background to our lives. So, we
>get WEIRD facts such as governments ready, willing,
>able and eager to spend $100 billion dollars (and kill
>up to half a million people in the process) to prevent
>a so-called "rogue state" from lobbing an atom bomb at
>the world's only superpower, while a fund of less than
>a billion dollars set up to combat AIDS, the most
>deadly (numerically) disease our species has ever
>seen, may run out of money in two years due to lack of
>interest by the same states that routinely spend a
>thousand times that much each year on ways of killing
>people (virtually always under the guise of "self
>defense"......).)
>
>
> * Malaria kills about a million people each year,
>mostly children under 5, whose immune systems are not
>developed enough to deal with the parasite. It would
>cost about $2 billion US dollars per year to control
>malaria and eliminate at least half of these deaths.
>However, this level of worldwide commitment to
>preventing half a million deaths per year, is not
>likely to be achieved any time soon, largely for
>political reasons and for the simple fact that most of
>the deaths occur in the poorest countries, who cannot
>pay for medicines to tackle the problem - it wouldn't
>pay drug companies or first world governments to
>develop them.
>
>
> *
>
> * Unexploded bombs, mines and other deadly
>leftovers from WWI and WWII still litter Europe and
>northern Africa. The litter, especially mines, from
>one battle - el Alamein in Egypt (1942) for example,
>has killed or seriously injured an estimated 7 to 10
>thousand people in the past 20 years. Mines are
>especially hazardous, since they are deliberately
>hidden in such a way as to make traveling through a
>given area as dangerous as possible. At least 50
>million live land mines in 60 countries, pose a hazard
>to the general populace. They kill or maim about
>20,000 people per year - far more than the total from
>say, terrorists, yet receive surprisingly little in
>the way of funding.
>
>
> * The Gulf War of 1990 was one of the strangest
>wars in history. A few months before the bombing
>started, experts were predicting it would take 6
>months and 20,000 to 50,000 USA casualties to shove
>Saddam and the boys out of Kuwait. When the depleted
>(yet still radioactive) uranium actually started to
>fly (about 40 tons of the stuff was left behind!!),
>100,000+ Iraqi soldiers, and 147 "Allied" military
>personnel died in battle (vs 148 who died in
>non-battle accidents), in addition to 25,000+
>civilians. More tons of bombs were dropped than by
>all sides during WW II, and the direct cost was
>estimated at around 65 billion dollars - two thirds of
>a billion dollars an hour for 100 hours. However, it
>was not until AFTER the war that the true costs began
>to show up: about 100,000 Allied troops have come
>down with a debilitating mix of symptoms collectively
>dubbed "Gulf War Syndrome", and ~10,000 have died
>from it. It's existence is officially denied by most
>governments involved, but it is suspected to be the
>result of a) exposure to chemical warfare agents
>accidentally released, B) the aformentiontioned
>Depleted Uranium (inhaled in the form of extremely
>fine dust particles directly into the lungs), and c)
>other factors such as an untested cocktail of vaccines
>given to Allied troops. On the Iraqi side, strict,
>punitive embargoes and sanctions have been implicated
>in a number of deaths (largely children, women and
>unhealthy or weakened civilians) estimated variously
>at somewhere between 200,000 and 800,000, and UN
>studies are implicating that nasty "depleted" uranium
>in many cancers and congenital malformations probably
>due to genetic damage. A footnote to this carnage is
>the fact that a majority of the "Allied" countries'
>citizens still consider the war to have been justified
>and the right thing to have done.
>
>
> * Out-of-body experiences can be induced by
>stimulating a part of the brain called the right
>angular gyrus, Swiss researchers have discovered. They
>think a dysfunction in this region could account for
>the experience of leaving and floating above the body
>reported by some surgical and psychiatric patients.
>The right angular gyrus is close to areas involved in
>vision, hearing, balance and touch. It is thought
>that it could be responsible for integrating sensory
>information about the body, and that a failure to
>perform this task correctly could account for out of
>body experiences (OBEs). The angular gyrus is
>particularly susceptible to a drop in blood pressure,
>as happens during anesthesia. "It is in a frontier
>region between two vascular systems. If you have
>problems with arterial pressure this area is less
>nourished. Maybe that 'tickles' it - and that could be
>the underlying mechanism for OBEs", opines Margitta
>Seeck of Geneva University Hospital, who was a
>principle in the research. (summer 2002)
>
>
> * A Malaysian tribe called the Senoi centers much
>of its culture around dreams. At an early age, Senoi
>parents question their children closely about their
>dreams.
>
> * When you KNOW you are dreaming while you are
>actually in a dream state, this is called Lucid
>Dreaming. For a good review of the various methods
>used to achieve this interesting condition, see
>Lucid.html - a page i pirated and modified from a
>commercial website whose owners will probably not mind
>too much! (besides, these pages have a nasty habit of
>disappearing from the web......)
>
>
> * One in 5 children in the world have never seen
>the inside of a school room - but the "developed"
>world doesn't exactly come off smelling like roses
>either, when the chips are counted up: in places such
>as Canada and other "g-7" countries, 40% or more of
>the adult population is "functionally illiterate" -
>i.e., they can read a cereal box, street sign or
>parking ticket, but give them a copy of "Great
>Expectations" and they would be as lost as Jaques
>Cousteau on Mars. (Force them to read a couple of
>pages of "Ulysses" and their heads would most likely
>explode......)
>
>
> * While global warming will cause desertification
>in many parts of the world, it may also cause much of
>Europe to become so cold it would be uninhabitable.
>Northern Europe is currently warmed by the North
>Atlantic Drift - the continuation of the Gulf Stream,
>which wraps around Ireland and Scandinavia. This
>current is fed by heavy, high-salinity water sinking
>in the arctic, because of the freezing of sea water to
>form ice in the winter (when salt water freezes, the
>salt ions are forced out, which is why sea ice melts
>into fresh water!). If more sea ice melts due to
>higher average temperatures, the salinity of the
>surface water will be raised to the point where it
>will no longer sink, and thus no longer feed the Gulf
>Stram/North Atlantic Drift. If this occurs, Europe
>will no longer be indirectly warmed by the heat of the
>Caribbean sun, and it will be chilled to the point
>where another ice age is possible in the northern
>parts of the
>
>
> * One of the funniest pages on the internet,
>especially if a) you are at least halfway to becoming
>a "computer geek", and B) can overlook a couple of
>naughty articles mixed in with the good ones, is to be
>found at http://www.klawitter.de/enhumor.html#100bugs.
>
>
> * These are extremely rare occurrences, but if you
>sneeze too hard, you can fracture a rib. If you try
>to suppress a sneeze, you can rupture a blood vessel
>in your head or neck and die.
>
>
> * In 350, Pope Julius I declared that Christ's
>birth would be celebrated on December 25. There is
>little doubt that he was trying to make it as painless
>as possible for pagans to convert to Christianity.
>The new religion went down a bit easier, knowing that
>their feasts would not be taken away from them. The
>date had been celebrated in many religions and
>traditions, in connection with the winter solstice and
>the birthday of various gods and goddesses.
>
>
> * When a water-based solution is diluted, the
>molecules of the dissolved subtance(s) do not move
>further apart, as might be expected. Instead, they
>clump together - the more dilute the solution, the
>larger the clumps become. This may help explain why
>some homeopathic treatments (it is believed by
>homeopaths that the more dilute a solution is, the
>more powerful it becomes) actually seem to work. See
>http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991532
> for further details.
>
>
> * This entire page could easily be filled with
>REALLY dumb laws our semi-democratically elected
>officials have passed while enjoying our tax dollars,
>but one of the silliest of all has to be the New York
>statute that forbids anyone from walking around with
>an ice-cream cone in their pocket on Sundays. [i
>wonder if it was legal to smoke Wacky Tobacky in the
>state legislature on the day of the week THAT one was
>passed....]
>
:huh: Il today some ones thoughts

[deckard]

> * Air pollution is estimated to be a "major
>contributing factor" in nearly 140,000 premature
>deaths in North America. Terrorism, by contrast, has
>killed about 5,000 people in North America since, say,
>1900. Guess which causes the most concern and
>paranoia? (ok, i admit this is not a "fact", but a
>social commentary - our society is heavily influenced
>by two ugly forces which actually belong to the same
>coin: greed and fear. The odd thing about the fear
>side of the social equation is that people do not
>usually fear things that happen every day, all the
>time - automobile accidents, parental abductions,
>child and spousal abuse, drug overdoses, iatrogentic
>(ie, "medical system"-associated) errors, deaths from
>air and other pollution, etc. What they fear most is
>the unexpected - airplanes crashing into buildings,
>gunmen in dark alleys, stranger abductions, anthrax in
>the mail..... vast amounts of worry, energy,
>attention, paranoia and taxpayer dollars are spent
>trying to prevent a few unexpected events, while by
>contrast the vast majority of the negative forces in
>our world are simple accepted as "the usual" - the
>normal, un-newsworthy background to our lives. So, we
>get WEIRD facts such as governments ready, willing,
>able and eager to spend $100 billion dollars (and kill
>up to half a million people in the process) to prevent
>a so-called "rogue state" from lobbing an atom bomb at
>the world's only superpower, while a fund of less than
>a billion dollars set up to combat AIDS, the most
>deadly (numerically) disease our species has ever
>seen, may run out of money in two years due to lack of
>interest by the same states that routinely spend a
>thousand times that much each year on ways of killing
>people (virtually always under the guise of "self
>defense"......).)

That makes too much damn sense! It's way easier to lash out at the big, gory events than it is to solve the silent, insidious ones.

> * Unexploded bombs, mines and other deadly
>leftovers from WWI and WWII still litter Europe and
>northern Africa. The litter, especially mines, from
>one battle - el Alamein in Egypt (1942) for example,
>has killed or seriously injured an estimated 7 to 10
>thousand people in the past 20 years. Mines are
>especially hazardous, since they are deliberately
>hidden in such a way as to make traveling through a
>given area as dangerous as possible. At least 50
>million live land mines in 60 countries, pose a hazard
>to the general populace. They kill or maim about
>20,000 people per year - far more than the total from
>say, terrorists, yet receive surprisingly little in
>the way of funding.

War...the gift that keeps on giving.

Hey, Bender, meant to ask you if you see this, are there still trenches and unexploded munitions in Belgium from WWI?

[TRAVELBUG]

SO WHAT DO U ALL THINK ABOUT THE ABOVE EMAIL i received i think it makes sense and interesting reading a bit heavy on the brain at times but something our war mongering nations should read thats my opinion guys

[POWER_USER]

Check this out!

http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunF...sh&display=1610 (http://www.madblast.com/view.cfm?type=FunFlash&display=1610)

:lol: :lol:

[mrcall1969]

Jeez that's annoying :angry:

[jetje]

As you can see we have some fun members always on it before it is hot...
I merged the topic to an old one... you see we are busy with this one a long time...

it still is a nice satiric one... to bad the real thing is a lot worse...... ;)