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Entity101
04-26-2004, 05:50 PM
After a couple of long discussions the FST moderation team has decided to make some changes to the forum rules.
These are now the current rules on this forum:
1. All posts are the property of the poster. Comments and opinions are those of the poster, and do not necessarily reflect the views or beliefs of this site and its administrators. Posts may be deleted or edited for any reasons the administrators and moderators deem reasonable.
2. Posts containing subject matter deemed grotesque, disturbing, obscene, malicious, or of a sexual nature may be edited or deleted. Images containing complete nudity are not allowed, and nude images in which the subject(s) are topless may only be posted in the Lounge area. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults or any other discriminatory comments or content.
3. Spam is not permitted in any form. Any posting or messaging of junk content is not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to: unsolicited advertising, deceptive links, repetitive postings, postings or messaging for the purpose of commercial or personal gain, links to online popularity game sites (i.e. outwars, kings of chaos, Porn Star Guru, etc.) This also applies to content in signatures and avatars. Any questions or requests related to this subject may be sent to the forum moderators or administrators.
4. It is not allowed to use this board to promote your own website or forum. You may however place a link to your personal (non-commercial) website in your signature, as long as it doesn't contain any illegal material or excessive advertising. You must however remove such a link when the moderation team decides that you can't use it in your signature. Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed, unless a moderator or administrator gives you explicit permission. This permission can be revoked at any time by the moderation team.
5. As this is a file sharing community, any discussions promoting leeching are prohibited. This includes discussions encouraging or promoting the use of products where the sole purpose or benefit is the ability to leech.
6. Try to post in the correct forum. Take the time to look at the other topics, read forum descriptions, and see where your topic should go. Also, take the time to read the FAQs and other pinned topics. The administrators and moderators may move topics that are posted in the wrong area.
7. Posts that contain direct download links to copyrighted software, private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites, and hacking sites are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly related to any of this information will be edited. Hacking discussions are strictly prohibited within the forum. Sig2dat and ED2K hashes are NOT considered to be DDL, therefore allowed. Torrent links are never allowed as they contain detailed file location information and enable users to instantly download a file.
If you link to legal programs or mp3's, link to the official website containing information about the file as our mod team cannot control the content of every link. If you are an artist you are allowed to link directly to your art if your art is hosted on your own server or domain name.
It is not allowed to link to websites that contain malicious content (this includes scripts) or excessive pop-ups.
8. Signatures and Avatars will be restricted in size and content. Consult rules 2 and 3 for restricted content. Combined file sizes for images used for avatars and in signatures may not exceed 100,000 bytes. Additionally, Signatures may not exceed 500x150 pixels in dimension. Signatures and avatars that do not comply may be removed or edited by a moderator or administator without notification. Avatars can be uploaded. The maximum dimension for an avatar can not exceed 80x80 pixels.
9. If you have a very large picture to display (filesize larger than 300 kb) please link it. Stretching threads is a no-no, and if it occurs the server replaces your image with a thumbnail version which is linked to the original picture.
10. Do not Stalk. Do not travel the boards looking for people who you feel are breaking rules so you can tell them off. Do not warn people of the rules when they first arrive - that can be insulting. If someone is being a nuisance on the board, and a moderator is aware of the situation, consider backing off. Goading and provoking troublemakers takes control of the situation away from the moderator and makes their role more difficult.
11. Flaming moderators or administrators isn't allowed. They just do their job and they are very good at it.
12. Actions and decisions made by moderators and administrators are final. If you disagree, then try to resolve it using PM (Personal Message) with that moderator, and if that isn't possible PM another moderator or administrator. Starting a topic about the decision instead of using the PM system is not allowed, and will be considered as circumvention of the board rules, and will be treated accordingly.
13. Using another account to circumvent a moderation or ban isn't allowed. This will result in a ban of ALL your present and future accounts.
14. Deliberately trying to circumvent the board rules is not allowed.
15. You are responsible to read our board guidelines from time to time to be aware of the current version. Please check back often to check if our guidelines have changed.
16. These rules are not open to members own interpretation. The rules will be applied by the moderation team as they see fit. The rules are there to keep the board running smoothly and so that it can be enjoyed by everyone.
17. Breaking a forum rule will result in an official warning, a moderation period or even a permanent ban.
muchspl2
04-26-2004, 05:52 PM
be nice to highlight the changes :)
sharedholder
04-26-2004, 06:16 PM
Cool rules :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
What's with the DIALER POP UP on the EDSKES (http://home.hccnet.nl/h.edskes/mirror.htm) site ?
It is not allowed to link to websites that contain malicious content (this includes scripts) or excessive pop-ups.
Originally posted by muchspl2@26 April 2004 - 18:52
be nice to highlight the changes :)
yeah, please do, i ain't readin' through all of it again.
muchspl2
04-26-2004, 07:01 PM
probably the first time reading them for most people anyway :rolleyes:
nanotek
04-26-2004, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@26 April 2004 - 21:01
probably the first time reading them for most people anyway :rolleyes:
hehe so true :P
Rat Faced
04-26-2004, 07:08 PM
I've hilighted the main changes, from the top of my head.
Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed..........
afraid of a little competition?
vivitron 15
04-26-2004, 07:29 PM
how do you define "similar" - my forum contains discussions about files - and about sharing :o and software..........am i allowed it?
Rat Faced
04-26-2004, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by vivitron 15@26 April 2004 - 19:29
how do you define "similar" - my forum contains discussions about files - and about sharing :o and software..........am i allowed it?
Hows about i give you explicit permission to put your mind at rest?
;)
Originally posted by Rat Faced@26 April 2004 - 20:08
I've hilighted the main changes, from the top of my head.
thanks :)
Oh and sucks to antispam(no offense, but it got me, you gotta fix it so people who post simultaneously doesn't affect antispam, 'cus that's what happens)
vivitron 15
04-26-2004, 07:41 PM
Cool, thanks RF....
dontcha just love playing Devils Advocate? :P
btw: im recording the fact that you just gave me explicit permission to have anything I want in my sig ;) - but i wont abuse it, cos i like you geordie scumbags........lol, just kiddin, to see if you find it : P
Can I have one of those explicit things too :lol: But I dont know what to put in there yet :blink:
Originally posted by shn@26 April 2004 - 12:22
Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed..........
afraid of a little competition?
Hmmm I wonder why they changed this? :rolleyes:
The other changes I don't have something against.... but this is plain dumb :blink: :frusty: :helpsmile:
thewizeard
04-26-2004, 07:58 PM
Are we allowed to post links to, lets say, Slyck's forums for example?
vivitron 15
04-26-2004, 08:14 PM
:o Nigel - you have posted a link in your sig which contravenes:
Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed
Your participation, in Folding@Home, might just help save a life(of someone you love) (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=95354&view=findpost&p=826334)
i do believe this is a forum, it has a similar subject to FST, and that you wont have been given express permission to do it :o
k, im gonna leave this one now, ive had my fun and i know when i start to piss people off (usually when i start to speak :huh: - ah well, nm - enjoy the thread folks)
edit: forum has a "u" in it :o
:lol: 7.3 means that my little idiot script and balamm's h4x0r scripts are gone.
4 and 11... do I smell *****? <_<
Entity101
04-26-2004, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by nigel123@26 April 2004 - 19:58
Are we allowed to post links to, lets say, Slyck's forums for example?
Yes, a link to an article on Slyck is allowed. Because Slyck often is the source of interesting articles about filesharing that can't be found elsewhere.
In general, links to specific topics on other forums are ok. Provided that it contains usefull information related to a topic on this forum.
We have no problem with respected forums like for example doom9 and slyck.
@vivitron, F@H related things are allowed too :01: duh :P
sharedholder
04-26-2004, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by shn@26 April 2004 - 19:22
afraid of a little competition?
A mod or maybe a admin just deleted the link in my sig to my codec packs download mirror without any pop ups or adds. <_< <_< <_<
Entity101
04-26-2004, 08:42 PM
Links that you stole from another site...
Other people do the hard work or pay for hosting and you just copy and paste stuff.
nostalgia
04-26-2004, 08:43 PM
Euh Sharedholder? About your sig; what's Bluster Clean??
nanotek
04-26-2004, 08:48 PM
Originally posted by nostalgia@26 April 2004 - 22:43
Euh Sharedholder? About your sig; what's Bluster Clean??
yeh just noticed it too :D must be the new p2p prog that kicks ass :P
What the hell are googleberries?
:eat:
MUSLEMAN
04-26-2004, 08:51 PM
how come our links are deleted but the kdp links are still in their sig :blink: :blink: :blink:
sharedholder
04-26-2004, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by Error403@26 April 2004 - 20:42
Links that you stole from another site...
Other people do the hard work or pay for hosting and you just copy and paste stuff.
Are you pay for hosting files on the I-Shou University FTP SERVER ? (http://ftp.isu.edu.tw/pub/Windows/Edskes/) or maybe on the Vienna University of Technology, Austria FTP SERVER (http://gd.tuwien.ac.at/pc/bazar/?fisel=nN) ?
muchspl2
04-26-2004, 09:02 PM
someone didn't read rule 16 :lol:
:eat:
Originally posted by muchspl2@26 April 2004 - 21:02
someone didn't read rule 16 :lol:
Didnt that just say 17 http://www.fasttrackhelp.com/forums/html/emoticons/7372ec59.gif :lol:
Illuminati
04-26-2004, 09:09 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@26 April 2004 - 22:02
someone didn't read rule 16 :lol:
:eat:
Shh - I want to see how deep the hole can be dug http://members.shaw.ca/wenpigsfly/smileys/snack.gif
MUSLEMAN
04-26-2004, 09:15 PM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@26 April 2004 - 16:51
how come our links are deleted but the kdp links are still in their sig :blink: :blink: :blink:
i ask again :blink: :blink: :blink:
nsane
04-26-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by i dunno
CENSOR THIS, MOTHERFUCKER
good one :lol: :lol:
MUSLEMAN
04-26-2004, 10:04 PM
so i can't even have a link to the klt web page?? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
10. Do not Stalk. Do not travel the boards looking for people who you feel are breaking rules so you can tell them off. Do not warn people of the rules when they first arrive - that can be insulting. If someone is being a nuisance on the board, and a moderator is aware of the situation, consider backing off. Goading and provoking troublemakers takes control of the situation away from the moderator and makes their role more difficult.
Now that one I like. So long junior deputies. :)
nsane
04-26-2004, 10:09 PM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@26 April 2004 - 16:04
so i can't even have a link to the klt web page?? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
4. It is not allowed to use this board to promote your own website or forum. You may however place a link to your personal (non-commercial) website in your signature, as long as it doesn't contain any illegal material or excessive advertising. You must however remove such a link when the moderation team decides that you can't use it in your signature. Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed, unless a moderator or administrator gives you explicit permission. This permission can be revoked at any time by the moderation team.
12. Actions and decisions made by moderators and administrators are final. If you disagree, then try to resolve it using PM (Personal Message) with that moderator, and if that isn't possible PM another moderator or administrator. Starting a topic about the decision instead of using the PM system is not allowed, and will be considered as circumvention of the board rules, and will be treated accordingly.
:rolleyes:
Rat Faced
04-26-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by shn@26 April 2004 - 22:05
10. Do not Stalk. Do not travel the boards looking for people who you feel are breaking rules so you can tell them off. Do not warn people of the rules when they first arrive - that can be insulting. If someone is being a nuisance on the board, and a moderator is aware of the situation, consider backing off. Goading and provoking troublemakers takes control of the situation away from the moderator and makes their role more difficult.
Now that one I like. So long junior deputies. :)
That ones not new.... :blink:
MUSLEMAN
04-26-2004, 10:13 PM
Originally posted by nsane+26 April 2004 - 18:09--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (nsane @ 26 April 2004 - 18:09)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@26 April 2004 - 16:04
so i can't even have a link to the klt web page?? :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
12. Actions and decisions made by moderators and administrators are final. If you disagree, then try to resolve it using PM (Personal Message) with that moderator, and if that isn't possible PM another moderator or administrator. Starting a topic about the decision instead of using the PM system is not allowed, and will be considered as circumvention of the board rules, and will be treated accordingly.
:rolleyes: [/b][/quote]
4. It is not allowed to use this board to promote your own website or forum. You may however place a link to your personal (non-commercial) website in your signature, as long as it doesn't contain any illegal material or excessive advertising. You must however remove such a link when the moderation team decides that you can't use it in your signature. Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed, unless a moderator or administrator gives you explicit permission. This permission can be revoked at any time by the moderation team. :P :P :P :P
nsane
04-26-2004, 10:15 PM
i just added that to my post, damn those timeouts :angry: :lol:
edit: and the way your putting would pretty much include every site with k-lite k++ on it :rolleyes:
edit 2: and its in my sig :huh:
Entity101
04-26-2004, 10:21 PM
If all members show that they can behave normally, then the rules will become less strict.
We (the whole team) have been forced to take these (drastic) steps.
MUSLEMAN
04-26-2004, 10:21 PM
Originally posted by nsane@26 April 2004 - 18:15
i just added that to my post, damn those timeouts :angry: :lol:
edit: and the way your putting would pretty much include every site with k-lite k++ on it :rolleyes:
edit 2: and its in my sig :huh:
check our own sig and everybody else's and notice everybody else has a link to thier site except for us. once again fst showing how fair they are.
thats fine tho, we have a link to fst on our forum and also inside klt but thats ok. :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
yonki
04-26-2004, 11:47 PM
1. All posts are the property of the poster[...]Posts may be deleted or edited for any reasons the administrators and moderators deem reasonable.
Shouldnt you use another word instead of property?
Property: the right to posses, use, and dispose of anything.
But if you can delete it, how can you say its my property?
16. These rules are not open to members own interpretation.
That sounds to me like the Iquisition.
And ill stop now before you ban me :unsure:
J'Pol
04-27-2004, 12:36 AM
Okey Dokey Skip,
New rules, not a problem.
I will give it my best shot not to use this forum to advertise my own website. I will also give it my best shot not to rip the pish out of people who are putting their own time and effort into creating a board which I have a great deal of fun being a member of.
Particularly if in doing so I would be advertising a pile of piss, or stuff which had been stolen from other people's efforts.
FFS I just realised, I don't have my own website and I have been fighting against these things for as long as I can remember. JohnBoy (or similar) spamming about ESV and Verifiedownloads (again or similar) spring readily to mind. The former advertising a shite program, the latter advertising a site which stole it's content from other people (came here when our own verified section was suspended).
Both came in with the old "guys I'm a n00b, but I just stumbled across this site, it's great you should try it".
No Probs, new rules. Only those whose actions they will curtail will object.
Entity101
04-27-2004, 06:59 AM
No Probs, new rules. Only those whose actions they will curtail will object.
Wise you are.
-Yoda
:P
RealitY
04-27-2004, 07:36 AM
About Time...
Benno
04-27-2004, 07:42 PM
Originally posted by sharedholder@26 April 2004 - 20:55
Vienna University of Technology, Austria
:01: :01:
MUSLEMAN
04-27-2004, 11:29 PM
Originally posted by J'Pol@26 April 2004 - 20:36
No Probs, new rules. Only those whose actions they will curtail will object.
you mean those who get singled out, and have the rules inforced on them, while the same exact rule does not apply to any body else :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
J'Pol
04-28-2004, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN+28 April 2004 - 00:29--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 28 April 2004 - 00:29)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-J'Pol@26 April 2004 - 20:36
No Probs, new rules. Only those whose actions they will curtail will object.
you mean those who get singled out, and have the rules inforced on them, while the same exact rule does not apply to any body else :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: [/b][/quote]
If the shoe fits wear it, that was your choice. I named no names, I simply made an observation.
Those who get singled out are those who are breaking the rules, FFS there's a shock. Go figure why admin and mods want them to stop doing what they are doing, breaking the rules. It's beyond my meager wit.
But then again I can spell enforce properly, what ya gonna do. Particularly when the people who own the forum are getting pissed of with it being used as a billboard. Quelle surprise.
The choices are really simple stop it or .... call for Hobson, let him choose.
Since when spelling something correctly adds more credibility to a statement.
Statements like those & the one's made on sharedholder for spelling/grammar were of very degraded humor. Things, certainly, are changing.
This isn't the same kind of wit, J'Pol used to have.
----
I see many links to different forums, having similar board as FST, in many sigs & their links, certainly, aren't blocked.
The rules seems to be modified & enforced only on those they wanted.
Bullshit!
Chevy
04-28-2004, 12:55 AM
Did you guys have your sigs removed (klitetools)? I found that site pretty cool.
(sorry it's off-topic but don't know where to post this and didn't feel it deemed a new section. This is not a subtle anything - just a question)
I didn't have it in my sig, but yes all the people who had (klitetools) got their sigs removed.
Dont know whether it became personal with few mods/admin or whatever, that site surely is helpful.
Chevy
04-28-2004, 01:04 AM
Originally posted by I.am@28 April 2004 - 01:00
I didn't have it in my sig, but yes all the people who had (klitetools) got their sigs removed.
Dont know whether it became personal with few mods/admin or whatever, that site surely is helpful.
Maybe it does deserve a thread then although it would be deleted as quick as a klitetool sig :(
J'Pol
04-28-2004, 01:07 AM
Originally posted by I.am@28 April 2004 - 01:38
Since when spelling something correctly adds more credibility to a statement.
Statements like those & the one's made on sharedholder for spelling/grammar were of very degraded humor. Things, certainly, are changing.
This isn't the same kind of wit, J'Pol used to have.
----
I see many links to different forums, having similar board as FST, in many sigs & their links, certainly, aren't blocked.
The rules seems to be modified & enforced only on those they wanted.
Bullshit!
Since we board English talk.
Understanding better if board language all same.
Point missed you did. He say fuck rules, we do what we want. I say we members, we want forum stay, we glad it here. We prefer admin / mod to people who want support other site.
Things changing yes. We think good thing, you don't think good thing, that OK.
You go your site and post there. No prob for us here.
TTFN
Enjoy yourself.
Virtualbody1234
04-28-2004, 01:09 AM
Originally posted by J'Pol@27 April 2004 - 18:17
But then again I can spell enforce properly, what ya gonna do. Particularly when the people who own the forum are getting pissed of with it being used as a billboard. Quelle surprise.
Is that like pissed off ? :-"
NightStalker
04-28-2004, 01:16 AM
Originally posted by I.am@27 April 2004 - 20:00
I didn't have it in my sig, but yes all the people who had (klitetools) got their sigs removed.
Dont know whether it became personal with few mods/admin or whatever, that site surely is helpful.
Maybe it became a problem when they started spamming this board; in which I mean many posts would contain "Go to my website", etc.
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 01:23 AM
so y again were the klitetools sigs removed again? because they contained similar topics to klboard right?
Chevy
04-28-2004, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by NightStalker+28 April 2004 - 01:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 28 April 2004 - 01:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@27 April 2004 - 20:00
I didn't have it in my sig, but yes all the people who had (klitetools) got their sigs removed.*
Dont know whether it became personal with few mods/admin or whatever, that site surely is helpful.
Maybe it became a problem when they started spamming this board; in which I mean many posts would contain "Go to my website", etc. [/b][/quote]
Wern't they told to point to their sigs though?
Was it go to "My website" for more information or rather go to "Klitetools address etc." for more information? Many times I refer to people to different forums as well just because a topic or a question is well addressed and the answer is more clear.
@Nighstalker, Nothing against you, but your sig has FileSharing place that has codec packs klite software etc. Thats my point exactly, why are the rules being implemented on certain people in this case only on one forum. If all the links in the sigs has to be removed that go to any kind of file sharing then all the people who tried helping klite after things were bad, should get their links off too. If things are consistent no one will have any objections. Thing starts to look ugly when its directed only against certain members.
In this case very well known senior members.
@JP, hope you understand its not being directed at you...rather on the whole situation, which certainly is not desirable.
Edit: Didnt get what you meant about going to your site :blink: Its not my site!
@Virtualbody :lol:
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I.am
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 02:43 AM
Originally posted by NightStalker+27 April 2004 - 21:16--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (NightStalker @ 27 April 2004 - 21:16)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@27 April 2004 - 20:00
I didn't have it in my sig, but yes all the people who had (klitetools) got their sigs removed.*
Dont know whether it became personal with few mods/admin or whatever, that site surely is helpful.
Maybe it became a problem when they started spamming this board; in which I mean many posts would contain "Go to my website", etc. [/b][/quote]
4. Links to forums (with similar subjects as FST) are not allowed, unless a moderator or administrator gives you explicit permission. This permission can be revoked at any time by the moderation team.
RealitY
04-28-2004, 05:26 AM
Originally posted by Error403+26 April 2004 - 12:42--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Error403 @ 26 April 2004 - 12:42)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Links that you stole from another site...
Other people do the hard work or pay for hosting and you just copy and paste stuff.[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-J'Pol@27 April 2004 - 16:17
Particularly when the people who own the forum are getting pissed of with it being used as a billboard. [/quote]
Enough Said FFS...
Billboard?
This forum was meant first to create a community, but it has obviously lost it's touch :smilie4:
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 06:09 AM
Originally posted by REALITY+28 April 2004 - 01:26--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 28 April 2004 - 01:26)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by Error403@26 April 2004 - 12:42
Links that you stole from another site...
Other people do the hard work or pay for hosting and you just copy and paste stuff.
<!--QuoteBegin-J'Pol@27 April 2004 - 16:17
Particularly when the people who own the forum are getting pissed of with it being used as a billboard.
Enough Said FFS... [/b][/quote]
why don't you just keep your brown nose out of it. evey body here knows you have no opinion of your own and how brown your nose is. and nobody respect what you say anyways :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
stop waisting the space
and thats reality :P
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:19 AM
As usuall you act as a moron who has little to say...
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:24 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:09
why don't you just keep your brown nose out of it. evey body here knows you have no opinion of your own and how brown your nose is. and nobody respect what you say anyways
Figured I'de quote this garbage, as for my opions I've expressed them long before this shit happened and have just been rather suprised why it didn't happen sooner. Besides you have klt now thanks to this board so why are you so hostile now because the free ride has ended...
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 06:26 AM
just take a deep breath and enjoy the fresh air and let that nose turn the normal color from brown
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:31 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:26
just take a deep breath and enjoy the fresh air and let that nose turn the normal color from brown
Rather funny quote considering your nose has the property of SHit on it...
:lol: :lol:
Besides its no secret what my fellings for you are you now is it, besides why are you still here considering all your afiliations that you have...
:huh: :huh:
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 06:32 AM
Originally posted by REALITY+28 April 2004 - 02:31--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 28 April 2004 - 02:31)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:26
just take a deep breath and enjoy the fresh air and let that nose turn the normal color from brown
Rather funny quote considering your nose has the property of SHit on it...
:lol: :lol: [/b][/quote]
just take a deep breath and enjoy the oxygen. there is a whole world out here, enjoy it.
and thats reality :P
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 06:35 AM
these last few posts, ive never laughed so hard :lol:
and thats reality :P
:lol: :lol:
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:36 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:32
thats reality :P
Well my conception of REALITY has been that your a leech on this board, although perhaps helpful on occasion, I think that sums it up...
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 06:39 AM
Originally posted by REALITY+28 April 2004 - 06:36--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (REALITY @ 28 April 2004 - 06:36)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:32
thats reality :P
Well my conception of REALITY has been that your a leech on this board, although perhaps helpful on occasion, I think that sums it up... [/b][/quote]
http://www.citypaper.net/vet/111402/big/oxygen.jpg
come on man, just breathe.
:lol: :)
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 06:40 AM
Originally posted by J'Pol+28 April 2004 - 01:07--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (J'Pol @ 28 April 2004 - 01:07)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-I.am@28 April 2004 - 01:38
Since when spelling something correctly adds more credibility to a statement.
Statements like those & the one's made on sharedholder for spelling/grammar were of very degraded humor. Things, certainly, are changing.
This isn't the same kind of wit, J'Pol used to have.
----
I see many links to different forums, having similar board as FST, in many sigs & their links, certainly, aren't blocked.
The rules seems to be modified & enforced only on those they wanted.
Bullshit!
Since we board English talk.
Understanding better if board language all same.
Point missed you did. He say fuck rules, we do what we want. I say we members, we want forum stay, we glad it here. We prefer admin / mod to people who want support other site.
Things changing yes. We think good thing, you don't think good thing, that OK.
You go your site and post there. No prob for us here.
TTFN
Enjoy yourself. [/b][/quote]
J'Pol I remember cause i have a very good memmory that long time ago you asked for LOGO CREATOR programm and i pm you the link from a warez board .
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showt...hl=LOGO+CREATOR (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?showtopic=62258&hl=LOGO+CREATOR)
THANK YOU J'Pol
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:42 AM
Originally posted by GHOST 1337+27 April 2004 - 22:39--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GHOST 1337 @ 27 April 2004 - 22:39)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by REALITY@28 April 2004 - 06:36
<!--QuoteBegin-MUSLEMAN@27 April 2004 - 22:32
thats reality :P
Well my conception of REALITY has been that your a leech on this board, although perhaps helpful on occasion, I think that sums it up...
http://www.citypaper.net/vet/111402/big/oxygen.jpg
come on man, just breathe.
:lol: :) [/b][/quote]
Maybe all of the klt clan should stop playing felching train and do the same...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 06:43 AM
Originally posted by REALITY@28 April 2004 - 06:42
stop playing FELCHING TRAIN
Never heard of it (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=felching+train)
RealitY
04-28-2004, 06:45 AM
Originally posted by GHOST 1337+27 April 2004 - 22:43--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (GHOST 1337 @ 27 April 2004 - 22:43)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-REALITY@28 April 2004 - 06:42
stop playing FELCHING TRAIN
Never heard of it (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=felching+train) [/b][/quote]
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
jetje
04-28-2004, 06:51 AM
Fact is that although we tried to say it plenty of times that advertising was only allowed in the sig, you guys kept posting it outside. If we did edit some out, you edit it back.
You still don't get it, you guys violated the board rules plenty of times. You brought this to yourself. Give me one reason why we should treat you guys different as any other member. Why you guys are so divine?
Instead of whoring over here why not post on your own forum? And leave us in peace. Or act like a guest in here and follow the simple rules that aply to all!
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 06:57 AM
Originally posted by jetje@28 April 2004 - 06:51
You still don't get it, you guys violated the board rules plenty of times. You brought this to yourself.
Instead of whoring over here why not post on your own forum? And leave us in peace.
I violated the rules ?????????????????????????????????? Check all my 5000 posts first.
Thanks for telling the truth, you want that i leave this forum .
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 06:57 AM
point to the post/s where you told me not to post where you guys edit a link in the post and i edited back :blink: :blink: :blink:
jetje
04-28-2004, 07:00 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder+28 April 2004 - 08:57--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 28 April 2004 - 08:57)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by jetje@28 April 2004 - 06:51
You still don't get it, you guys violated the board rules plenty of times. You brought this to yourself.
Instead of whoring over here why not post on your own forum? And leave us in peace.
I violated the rules ?????????????????????????????????? Check all my 5000 posts first.
Thanks for telling the truth, you want that i leave this forum . [/b]
see this is one of your problems, reading....
and qouting wrong...
you forgot this part to qoute:
<!--QuoteBegin-jetje
Or act like a guest in here and follow the simple rules that aply to all![/quote]
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 07:02 AM
You just try to bann me jetje, and i guess i'm free to quote everything i want no ??
jetje
04-28-2004, 07:09 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder@28 April 2004 - 09:02
You just try to bann me jetje, and i guess i'm free to quote everything i want no ??
whatever, if that's your idea... i have nothing against any of you personally. I just have something against the excessive advertising you guys do over here. I tried to tell you plenty times. And believe me or not, i'm not the only one that sees it that way. Also i believe we asked plenty of times to keep the advertising within the rules you guys posted outside of that.... Again Shared why should we treat you different? I wonder if someone does the same thing on your forum how you would react,.... mmmm well maybe i should come over and start posting the way you guys do over here???? Then we will see what you do when this is done there...
Do you think that KLite resurection could get this kind of exposure on your site?
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 07:15 AM
Originally posted by jetje@28 April 2004 - 07:09
Do you think that KLite resurection could get this kind of exposure on your site?
:blink: :huh: Clicky Clicky (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/sounds/arnold1-11c.wav)
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 07:15 AM
I didn't asked you to treat me different .
I always followed the forum rules ( linking your site in your sig..... ) and if i posted a link to my freeware site it was just to help someone that want RegCleaner to download or anytyhing else, you know this better than me.
I never got your pm's about editing my posts or anything else, my posts was trashed or closed without any reply from the moderating team ( see the story about the new kazaa startpage )
I don't make any $$ like i was accused by some members with my sites . <_<
Geez where is the thread going! Can we all resolve this maturely :)
Instead of roars & cries & roars, can we resolve this? :D
Keeping links in the sigs is definetly the way to go if its your own site. And if it wasn't clear before maybe its clear now.
Can we get two things totally resolved?
Unbanning haxor (a warning might have taken care of the situation? or even serious warning - putting him in the category of killa_sin etc. is totally unjustified)
& either everyone keeping the links in their sig or everyone who has a link in their sig related to file sharing all ripped off for consistency. :)
Lets not spoil it & try to make it better, shall we?
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by jetje@28 April 2004 - 03:09
Do you think that KLite resurection could get this kind of exposure on your site?
acctully yes till just last week it was getting alot of it. till started to have google ads and stuff like that :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
jetje
04-28-2004, 07:21 AM
Originally posted by I.am@28 April 2004 - 09:17
& either everyone keeping the links in their sig or everyone who has a link in their sig related to file sharing all ripped off for consistency. :)
Lets not spoil it & try to make it better, shall we?
This is really all we wanted from the start... ;)
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN
..and nobody respect what you say anyways..
i do
..
and seeing as you are so concerned with the rules here, dont you have any at your place ?
because i see from your board that your mods now want to spam this place, using my avatar url, with some bullshit script
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 07:23 AM
no clue what you are talking about pol :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
care to explain????
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 07:23 AM
I smell something like
-- TOPIC CLOSED -- :lol: :lol: :lol:
Originally posted by jetje+28 April 2004 - 00:21--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (jetje @ 28 April 2004 - 00:21)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-I.am@28 April 2004 - 09:17
& either everyone keeping the links in their sig or everyone who has a link in their sig related to file sharing all ripped off for consistency. :)
Lets not spoil it & try to make it better, shall we?
This is really all we wanted from the start... ;)[/b][/quote]
:)
So lets work on that!
The thing is many people still have links in their sigs to other forums. No offense to anyone but consistency lacks maybe thats why it looks little unfair.
:) I am sure at this point we can still handle things than going overboard! ;)
I dont see any threat to KLB from these forums, it never was. All link back to it as the founder forum of klite.
In any case its obviously upto the admins & mods to decide regarding this, I just hope both sides are seen clearly. :)
Still what about the haxor situation?
RealitY
04-28-2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by sharedholder@27 April 2004 - 23:15
you know this better than me
Perhaps, but I think the clan you travel with has just become a fkin pain, I think maybe even you can understand this...
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@28 April 2004 - 07:23
no clue what you are talking about pol :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
care to explain????
i took some pics, as you need to be registered to see it -
Image Resized
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/1z.gif' width='200' height='120' border='0' alt='click for full size view'> ('http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/1z.gif')
Image Resized
[img]http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/2z.gif' width='200' height='120' border='0' alt='click for full size view'> ('http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/2z.gif')
Image Resized
[img]http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/3z.gif' width='200' height='120' border='0' alt='click for full size view'> ('http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/3z.gif')
no clue what you are talking about
care to explain????
even though you posted in the same thread [i]after these posts ?
pol, its being talked about a script @shaw for balamm's smiley site not here . :D
No idea why your name was mentioned though :blink: same pol?
Can we rather resolve the issue at hand instead of pointing fingers? :)
Originally posted by I.am@28 April 2004 - 07:39
pol, its being talked about a script @shaw for balamm's smiley site not here . :D
No idea why your name was mentioned though :blink: same pol?
LOL
same 'pol' with the same avatar url ? thats why i left that in the second pic, without the code
i suggest you read the thread, all these pics were in succession and in reply to each other
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 07:47 AM
Originally posted by pol@28 April 2004 - 07:22
because i see from your board that your mods now want to spam this place, using my avatar url, with some bullshit script
I don't see on your screenshots anything about YOUR AVATAR URL .
Originally posted by sharedholder+28 April 2004 - 07:47--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (sharedholder @ 28 April 2004 - 07:47)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteBegin-pol@28 April 2004 - 07:22
because i see from your board that your mods now want to spam this place, using my avatar url, with some bullshit script
I don't see on your screenshots anything about YOUR AVATAR URL .[/b][/quote]
Image Resized
[img]http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/2z.gif' width='200' height='120' border='0' alt='click for full size view'> ('http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/2z.gif')
member #30482
i think the pics, and that thread, and the fact that none of you have objected to it speaks for itself.
FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
04-28-2004, 07:56 AM
:) What about them TimberWolves tonight?Garnett just might get out of the First Round. :D
LOL
balamm asked if there's a way to block referrers on IIS to which haxor replied with a script. It seems balamm doesnt have php on his IIS so he said I dont have php support he needs if its possible in html - hence a bag of tricks :D
I suggest you read the questions again and you will know what I comprehend. I didnt read through the script thinking it was obviously the answer to his question.
Can we rather resolve the issue at hand instead of pointing fingers?* :)
Edit: If no one wants to listen here :frusty: :frusty:
I am done with this!
I just hoped much more from the few I knew!
:(
NightStalker
04-28-2004, 02:39 PM
Originally posted by I.am@27 April 2004 - 21:18
@Nighstalker, Nothing against you, but your sig has FileSharing place that has codec packs klite software etc. Thats my point exactly, why are the rules being implemented on certain people in this case only on one forum. If all the links in the sigs has to be removed that go to any kind of file sharing then all the people who tried helping klite after things were bad, should get their links off too. If things are consistent no one will have any objections. Thing starts to look ugly when its directed only against certain members.
If the moderation team has a problem with my signature, I will act upon the request and remove it.
Adster
04-28-2004, 03:07 PM
wait a minutes
this means we should have to by law re register are accounts to agree to teh new rules/?
Cheese
04-28-2004, 03:32 PM
Will the rules be updated every time someone argues with the team so that the team can have their own way? :blink:
[B][O][T]
04-28-2004, 03:38 PM
Originally posted by Board Rules
15. You are responsible to read our board guidelines from time to time to be aware of the current version. Please check back often to check if our guidelines have changed.
BOT
sharedholder
04-28-2004, 03:43 PM
Originally posted by Adster@28 April 2004 - 15:07
wait a minutes
this means we should have to by law re register are accounts to agree to teh new rules/?
Adster :01: :01: :01: :01: :01:
muchspl2
04-28-2004, 03:50 PM
seems pretty simple to me, you guy were going out of your way to bring people to your forum, they cut that shit out
now your pissed, but you can't be totally ignorant to the fact
just drop it before its a complete ban of your whole "crew" be thankful for the members you have because of this forum, now your on your own
Originally posted by Adster@28 April 2004 - 16:07
wait a minutes
this means we should have to by law re register are accounts to agree to teh new rules/?
Nah, I think it says that we are obligated to check up on new regs and follow them.
Or wait, was that added now?
EDit: no, 15 was an old one.
15. You are responsible to read our board guidelines from time to time to be aware of the current version. Please check back often to check if our guidelines have changed.
At least RF hadn't hi-lit it as new.
EDit again: missed BOT's post, sorry.
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@28 April 2004 - 11:50
seems pretty simple to me, you guy were going out of your way to bring people to your forum, they cut that shit out
now your pissed, but you can't be totally ignorant to the fact
just drop it before its a complete ban of your whole "crew" be thankful for the members you have because of this forum, now your on your own
hey much that is not it at all. give me a breack i thought you were smarter then that :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
i'll say it one more time, this is not the only forum on the net nor the biggest. there are plently of other forums that would bring better results if one wanted to get members
muchspl2
04-28-2004, 07:58 PM
[devils advacate]
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=S...ghlite=register (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=fcca029681787543183626ea475c2676&search_in=posts&result_type=posts&highlite=register)
[/devils advocate]
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@28 April 2004 - 21:58
[devils advacate]
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=S...ghlite=register (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=fcca029681787543183626ea475c2676&search_in=posts&result_type=posts&highlite=register)
[/devils advocate]
yeh nice one m8 :D about time someone did that so everyone can see the truth . the same thing happened to me when i asked a question about low id concerning emule and a question about overnet .Mm kept telling me to join his forum as he had some pics
and a guide pinned there , i insisted to him him to post here cause i come here when ive a prob and i didnt want to join another forum and he got really aggro over it <_<
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 08:09 PM
lol totall of 19 posts from november 2003 to april 2004 :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink:
again its not about that. you wanna just bullshit or read what this is about??
its about having links in your sig.
your link is not even on the subject :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:16 PM
oh it is indeed on topic as it shows u spamming the forum trying to get ppl here to sign up on your forum
QUOTE (nanotek @ 3 March 2004 - 02:28)
QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 2 March 2004 - 19:58)
why don't walk us thru it with all the step by stop screen shots??
ever wondered why i would have said that m8 ? maybe i wanted a step by step walkthrough too? thats why im here and not anywhere else
redoing a thread : copy and paste works fine if ya ask me
hmm.....if hes a memeber there why would he ask here
then go and look, did you read my post??
so you want me to take 15 minutes to post something i already have because you don't want to take 1 minute to register for free and see it???
and that sounds right to your highness??
and why would he ask here, lot of people here are members there too.
oh and this is my post where u ask me to reg too :lol: and u wonder anymore ????
J'Pol
04-28-2004, 08:17 PM
As I understand it, it's about having links which are not in your sig.
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:19 PM
sure but trying to get ppl to reg in another forum is also part of the problem itself
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by nanotek@28 April 2004 - 16:19
sure but trying to get ppl to reg in another forum is also part of the problem itself
first of you except people to come in your house and fix your shit for you, so save it lazy.
second no, jpol, its about having links in your sig. none of us have any problems not linking to the website or forum in the post. we are no the only people who can't have a link in our sig, and that is what its about.
we have not listed any links in the post it self after we were asked to not to post a link.
its about that everybody else has a link to their site or forum in their sig except for us
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:27 PM
duh why would i come to forum like this if i wasnt trying to get any help :blink: i certainly dont come here to spam away ;)
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 08:28 PM
Originally posted by nanotek@28 April 2004 - 16:27
duh why would i come to forum like this if i wasnt trying to get any help :blink: i certainly dont come here to spam away ;)
i'm not even gonna waist my time on your responds anymore i can't take anybody who excepts people to do all the work for them.
good luck to you
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN+28 April 2004 - 22:28--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 28 April 2004 - 22:28)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@28 April 2004 - 16:27
duh why would i come to forum like this if i wasnt trying to get any help :blink: i certainly dont come here to spam away ;)
i'm not even gonna waist my time on your responds anymore i can't take anybody who excepts people to do all the work for them.
good luck to you [/b][/quote]
but u did take your time to quote me again m8 :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
and good luck to u too m8 just too bad u cant spamm here anymore :lol:
J'Pol
04-28-2004, 08:33 PM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN+28 April 2004 - 21:23--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (MUSLEMAN @ 28 April 2004 - 21:23)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-nanotek@28 April 2004 - 16:19
sure but trying to get ppl to reg in another forum is also part of the problem itself
first of you except people to come in your house and fix your shit for you, so save it lazy.
second no, jpol, its about having links in your sig. none of us have any problems not linking to the website or forum in the post. we are no the only people who can't have a link in our sig, and that is what its about.
we have not listed any links in the post it self after we were asked to not to post a link.
its about that everybody else has a link to their site or forum in their sig except for us [/b][/quote]
But wasn't that because one of your colleagues was posting links everywhere else. Then got really annoyed and angry about being told to stop it.
Was that not when things were changed.
MUSLEMAN
04-28-2004, 08:34 PM
speaking of spam http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=S...posts&hl=&st=25 (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=Search&nav=au&CODE=show&searchid=537b896f7fb37dc8f98a2e6a20a280d7&search_in=posts&result_type=posts&hl=&st=25)
i can't find one post by you that acctually said something to help somebody esle that was not already said by another member in that thread. :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
btw being called a spamer by somebody like you is a complement thx :P
nanotek
04-28-2004, 08:38 PM
nice to see that u took the time to reply to me cause i thought u didnt want to help a lazy person :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Calm it children, hissy fits.
ck-uk
04-28-2004, 09:00 PM
Realistically mate the admins can do what they like...we're on the internet man...
its our forum it isnt a business m8...a community man.They arent going to allow it to broken up ,or want to imo...
atiVidia
04-28-2004, 09:23 PM
Originally posted by Error403@26 April 2004 - 12:50
14. Deliberately trying to circumvent the board rules is not allowed.
16. These rules are not open to members own interpretation. The rules will be applied by the moderation team as they see fit. The rules are there to keep the board running smoothly and so that it can be enjoyed by everyone.
17. Breaking a forum rule will result in an official warning, a moderation period or even a permanent ban.
14+16+17 make it absolutely impossible to do anything on this board
this constitutes an informally official DDOS attack on FST.
i dont know who came up with the new rules but as time passes on this forum becomes more of a nazi germany (actually it becomes more of a Bushist United States :P)
my point is, the forum has taken a chainsaw to itself. if linking isnt allowed, expect me to find another way to do so :)
actually j/k but seriously: lighten up! the moderating team is forcing the death of the board. i wonder what 7th would do about this...
dont tell me that this is the damned internet cuz guess what we as users have no reason to obey the rules. p2p is against the rules but were doin it anyway! so dont sh|t at me saying that "Deliberately trying to circumvent the board rules is not allowed." or "These rules are not open to members own interpretation. The rules will be applied by the moderation team as they see fit. The rules are there to keep the board running smoothly and so that it can be enjoyed by everyone. " cuz guess what the added rules made it MUCH more UNENJOYABLE for many. so bull sh|t with the new rules, and bull sh|t with those mods who came up with them. the mods are free to circumvent rules arent they? YES they F__king are! and thats like saying Im allowed to shoot you and not be punished for it. to HELL with the mods that came up with this and FU<K the rules!
btw arent 14 ad 17 sorta the same? :P
lol ill still try to follow the old rules tho :D
Wasn't there only 16 rules earlier? :blink: :blink:
Entity101
04-28-2004, 09:58 PM
14+16+17 make it absolutely impossible to do anything on this board
Perhaps only for members like you.
Luckily there are thousands of others who think otherwise.
RealitY
04-28-2004, 10:02 PM
Originally posted by muchspl2@28 April 2004 - 11:58
[devils advacate]
http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=S...ghlite=register (http://filesharingtalk.com/index.php?act=Search&CODE=show&searchid=fcca029681787543183626ea475c2676&search_in=posts&result_type=posts&highlite=register)
[/devils advocate]
:P :P
ck-uk
04-28-2004, 10:07 PM
nice to see you error man
First of all, I truly don't think some of these mods are themselves. Why? Because they sound all alike, and this is not the case. It must be easy for someone who knows the passwords (every one of them) to log in as them ;)
Second, as I.am said, we tried to solve this in a peaceful way. We haven't post any links in our replies regarding KLT. After this, they told us to point to our sigs. So we did it. And now they removed everyone's links to KLT in sigs, not to mention they have banned some members who are affiliated (or maybe just registered?) with KLT.
So what's going on? Is FST afraid of competition, hence the new rules? This isn't a community anymore, it's just a site that THINKS they are the official K-lite site. Welcome to reality. FST is long gone a k-lite site. It's turned into an undemocrat regime, and, as someone pointed earlier, a Bushist America.
Either you change your way of thinking, or you are gonna keep losing members (probably to "FST-related" boards)
:smilie4:
Chevy
04-28-2004, 11:54 PM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 23:49
First of all, I truly don't think some of these mods are themselves. Why? Because they sound all alike, and this is not the case. It must be easy for someone who knows the passwords (every one of them) to log in as them ;)
Unless the software has been modded, on Invision boards even the admin can't see users' passwords
Well they put anti-spam, and they don't know how to take it out (so they say), so why wouldn't they be able to ;)
Besides, "7th" said that "rookie" was in charge of several other forums :rolleyes:
GHOST 1337
04-28-2004, 11:57 PM
Originally posted by Chevy+28 April 2004 - 23:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chevy @ 28 April 2004 - 23:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@28 April 2004 - 23:49
First of all, I truly don't think some of these mods are themselves. Why? Because they sound all alike, and this is not the case. It must be easy for someone who knows the passwords (every one of them) to log in as them ;)
Unless the software has been modded, on Invision boards even the admin can't see users' passwords [/b][/quote]
no but he change em' ;)
FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
04-29-2004, 12:00 AM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 18:49
It's turned into an undemocrat regime, and, as someone pointed earlier, a Bushist America.
<_< Thats right.Stay the fuck out of our way!
People want to keep saying how America is this and that.Well fine.We will just act that way.Every Country that does not obey our Laws and what our President has to say will pay the Price like all others have.
I have just HI-Jacked this Thread.What the fuck are you going to do about it?
*this Post has nothing against DWk just because it was Quoted from him.It is against every asshole that has something to say about my Nation.The Nation that some of us still Love.*
*Maybe this Thread will be closed now.*
Yeps, that's nothing against America, but against it's "leader".
However, as there's a Constitution, there are rules here. And if it's supposted to be just and fair with everyone, why are the link rules only applying to those members that are related to KLT? :smilie4:
muchspl2
04-29-2004, 12:12 AM
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/hijacked.gif
FuNkY CaPrIcOrN
04-29-2004, 12:17 AM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 19:07
Yeps, that's nothing against America, but against it's "leader".
However, as there's a Constitution, there are rules here. And if it's supposted to be just and fair with everyone, why are the link rules only applying to those members that are related to KLT? :smilie4:
:( I do not know man.I know nothing that is going on anymore.People talk conspiracies and takeovers all the time.All I know is I love this Place and most the People that have come with it.
My Signature you can click on and it takes to my Site.Well no more.As it does seem to be wrong to me to have it like that when others can not.And that is not saying I am on anybodys side over any of this.
That Post above was wrong and should not of been put here.It was a burst of immature anger.At 29 there should not be any.....but there still is.But will keep it there for some of the Americans who feel the same way inside and maybe do not show it.
I need a Beer.Have not had one all week.And its Derby. :)
*last Post in this Thread from me.*
FC B)
NightStalker
04-29-2004, 12:21 AM
Originally posted by Chevy+28 April 2004 - 18:54--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Chevy @ 28 April 2004 - 18:54)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-DWk@28 April 2004 - 23:49
First of all, I truly don't think some of these mods are themselves. Why? Because they sound all alike, and this is not the case. It must be easy for someone who knows the passwords (every one of them) to log in as them ;)
Unless the software has been modded, on Invision boards even the admin can't see users' passwords [/b][/quote]
The closest they can get to a password, is the MD5 Hash located in the database; virtually uncrackable. ;)
Chevy
04-29-2004, 12:25 AM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 19:07
Yeps, that's nothing against America, but against it's "leader".
However, as there's a Constitution, there are rules here. And if it's supposted to be just and fair with everyone, why are the link rules only applying to those members that are related to KLT? :smilie4:
The US is a republic not a democracy
edit (just incase) - this does not refer to any politcal party but the political structure wether the republicans or democrats are in it doesn't matter (as far as this point)
Oh my bad then <_<
Didn't think that would make a single difference, since we are talking about FST and not US
;)
Chevy
04-29-2004, 12:34 AM
Originally posted by DWk@29 April 2004 - 00:27
Oh my bad then <_<
Didn't think that would make a single difference, since we are talking about FST and not US
;)
sorry - was meant as a sidenote - btw I DO agree with your posts on this
Glad you do. It's time to change some things though ;)
Adster
04-29-2004, 01:50 AM
OK first off my last post was a little joke
anyway
I think its starting to go over the top in here with all the new rules soon as a problem rises the mods can't handle it and just want to use new rules so they can highlight the new rules copy and past in a post over and over again! without a 10 pages debate with a member.
also this will still not stop the posts "Which asshole delete my posts" threads I can tell you that. If you have people breaking the rules then of course their going to break the new rules again.
thats the excuse for them to use their arrogance and power :P
PS please don't take that last lien seriously..
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 06:15 AM
every board has its rules and its all good. the problem here is when a group is singled out.
you have a rule not to post or have links to simailar forums, thats fine, your forum your rules but then what is going on for example with nightstalker's sig??? isn't that agains rule #4??? :blink: :blink:
that is where the problem comes in. you want no links to similar forums then more power to you. but be fair and make sure NOBODY has any links to such forums.
and we are not here to take down any p2p forum including this one. if anything we advertise and have links to p2p forums.
all we are saying is be fair thats all. you forum, your rules, no problems, just make sure you inforce the rule to every body. :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
thewizeard
04-29-2004, 06:23 AM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 23:49
First of all, I truly don't think some of these mods are themselves. Why? Because they sound all alike, and this is not the case. It must be easy for someone who knows the passwords (every one of them) to log in as them ;)
I have always suspected that there is actually only one member of the board. I will now tell you his name, but first a little explanation. The lounge is actually a bot; able to give fairly intelligent replies to any question that is asked. When it runs up against one of the more difficult questions, supplied by, for example, super bot J'Pol, then it answers with things like, "stfu" or "noob". If it has no answer, then it locks the topic as a sort of self protection, against overloading stacks or something. It is really quite simple. Now the real name of the only member of this board, it's Titey of course. Have a great day.... :)
Entity101
04-29-2004, 08:28 AM
every board has its rules and its all good. the problem here is when a group is singled out.
You guys singled out yourself by acting the way you did/do.
you have a rule not to post or have links to simailar forums, thats fine, your forum your rules but then what is going on for example with nightstalker's sig??? isn't that agains rule #4???
You can't expect that we scan the complete member base. We edit 'illegal' sigs when we come across them.
Cheese
04-29-2004, 08:34 AM
Originally posted by Error403@29 April 2004 - 07:28
every board has its rules and its all good. the problem here is when a group is singled out.
You guys singled out yourself by acting the way you did/do.
you have a rule not to post or have links to simailar forums, thats fine, your forum your rules but then what is going on for example with nightstalker's sig??? isn't that agains rule #4???
You can't expect that we scan the complete member base. We edit 'illegal' sigs when we come across them.
And if people are really concerned that other people's sigs are beaking the rules then just use the "Report" button. Simple really. :)
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 08:52 AM
Originally posted by Error403@29 April 2004 - 04:28
You can't expect that we scan the complete member base. We edit 'illegal' sigs when we come across them.
bull shit i have brought both mavol' s and nightstalkers and many others to yours and other mods attention. so dont' use that "we didn't know" bs, i have already brought it up at least 10 times
jetje
04-29-2004, 09:21 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@29 April 2004 - 08:15
that is where the problem comes in. you want no links to similar forums then more power to you. but be fair and make sure NOBODY has any links to such forums.
and we are not here to take down any p2p forum including this one. if anything we advertise and have links to p2p forums.
all we are saying is be fair thats all. you forum, your rules, no problems, just make sure you inforce the rule to every body. :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
If it is what you say it is we probably forbid the links in sigs, but it's not.
We don't. Same goes for the single your boards out. We act the same to all...
And really that is with a laid back attitude, and hope people will threat us the same.
Links in sigs will not be banned as long as it isn't part of a big advertising campaign. We will threat it with common sense, but bottom line is that if an admin or members of the mod team complain about it, the complaints will be taken seriously by the member. If you disagree solve that with mutual respect in pm... If you think a mod is being unfair (wich you probably tink i'm regarding to you, i guess) contact another mod or better an admin. We can talk about that in team chat then and can come back with a possible solution, instead of compromising the team/mod by a public post on the board, then there is little room left for a subtle solution.
Biggest problem with your site is the fact that you help people in here and then say they need to sign up at your forum to get a complete threatment, that is in our opinion advertising and kinda forcing people to sign up on your forum. Also there were still a lot of links that went to your site, instead of keeping those sig only. I know you disagree this thought of us but that's how we see it. If you wanna help people here that's fine, and believe it or not that's apreciated by me too. We can't make special cases for everyone, so we don't do it for your forum and posts here.
Fact is that if any of the mods said something about your site or the way you guys promote it, you people jumped on it... if sigs or links were removed some of you kept placing them back.
The recent history of posts (like the conspiracy theories) and posts from people that are followers of your forum didn't help much to improve that. At least it gave the impresson you guys were attacking this forum and the mods. Then "your people" attacked our actions in public in stead of solving things in pm and that kinda backfired on your posts and links.
We tried to explain that, but instead of getting it solved it got worse....
Well forum rule updates are here for everyone, it's not that we want to be more strict, it's that if some rules get violated and we enforce them, we don't get post like "where does the rules say that we can't...". Just hope you understand this a bit and can agree the basic thought of them and even better, can live with it. We don't have to agree on everything as long as we can find some golden midway that we all can live with. And in the end it's still the admins that have a final saying..
But i guess that at your forum that ain't much different.
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 09:31 AM
read rule #4 and then look at the people who i have named and tell me if that is not a similar forum.
save the rest of the bs :frusty: :frusty:
jetje
04-29-2004, 09:50 AM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@29 April 2004 - 11:31
read rule #4 and then look at the people who i have named and tell me if that is not a similar forum.
save the rest of the bs :frusty: :frusty:
rule #13, you must know by now that we interpetate the rules in a fair way... or otherwise you wouldn't be able to post... <_<
well that's probably the thnx for trying to be serious.. it seems your still not really concerned about the wealth of the whole forum, but just concerned about your posts and that of your rivals ;)
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 10:00 AM
like i said save it i got better things to do with my time listen to this bs
Lamsey
04-29-2004, 11:16 AM
Originally posted by DWk@28 April 2004 - 23:49
FST is long gone a k-lite site. It's turned into an undemocrat regime, and, as someone pointed earlier, a Bushist America.
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/riot.jpg
The reason the rules have had to be changed is because of the sad acts who keep weaseling around them, looking for loopholes. The whole klitetools thing is happening because they're continuing to shit-stir even after being told to back down - even netweiner knew when to give up. Haxor got banned for repeatedly circumventing rules and defying the mod team - they're not here to deal with that kind of shite, this is just something they do in their free time.
A lot of people say the board is now shite because of the team. That's untrue. The team do very well for the board given the circumstances.
What makes the board shite is that all the whinging and playground-mentality arguments have taken over the whole board, almost completely eradicating the enjoyable aspects of the forum for many.
atiVidia
04-29-2004, 11:38 AM
reality check, lamsey
the board is sh|t because of the mod team, not because of the members
the members find a way around the rules because the d@mned mods are trying to shut the public up. get real, that will never happen. and i kno where this will lead in the end
if a mass banning occurs, the site will go down with us :P
@ error403: only 500 members are actually still alive on this board, and as time passes, more of them are hating it. FST has become a dictatorial state since 7th left (not blaming it on rookie, hes still cool. im blaming it on the mods and other certain admins). you all screwed up, and when the members got annoyed and tryed finding a way around your screw ups, you banned them! now tell me: just how do u plan on retrieving the reputation of the long deceased k-lite board back?
id love to hear an answer, as i guarantee you that none of them will be good. :angry:
thewizeard
04-29-2004, 11:47 AM
Originally posted by Lamsey@29 April 2004 - 11:16
What makes the board shite is that all the whinging and playground-mentality arguments have taken over the whole board, almost completely eradicating the enjoyable aspects of the forum for many.
I can't totally agree with you Lamsey, I still enjoy my visits here and have no issues with the rules. There are still a great bunch of good members in the lounge, where I can have a good laugh, and as far as I can see, the active, online members seems to be higher than ever before. All that is necessary, is to do a little weeding now and again... :)
Edit: atiVidia, nor do I agree with you...
FST is being torn apart. We need to do something about it, please lets not get down to pedantic points, lets address the big issues here please. :)
Most of the Mods and Admins do good jobs IMO, but some have been a little dubious lately. Please can we get away from petty squabbling and work towards what effectivley is our common goal, the success of FST and its community.
Illuminati
04-29-2004, 12:05 PM
the board is sh|t because of the mod team, not because of the members
If a considerable portion of the member list didn't bullshit around on the boards or any of its occasional projects, the mod team wouldn't be as large as it is as less members would've been needed as mods. If we don't like it, we only have ourselves to blame.
the members find a way around the rules because the d@mned mods are trying to shut the public up. get real, that will never happen. and i kno where this will lead in the end
So why do you still have the right to post if that's the case? Why do I? Why does anyone else on this board still have the right?
Certain matters won't be tolerated on this board, end of story - If you don't like it, shed your tears outside the board or go with them. No-one forces anyone here, the choice to be here is optional - simple as that.
if a mass banning occurs, the site will go down with us :P
I frequent another five forums (including Jonno's forums) for different reasons. Anyone who I consider a valuable friend has my Trillian addresses and many I contact now & then. I'm covered for that situation and I believe that's the same for a few of the other regulars here - Cry us a river.
@ error403: only 500 members are actually still alive on this board, and as time passes, more of them are hating it.
Some hate the fact that they can't do everything that they want, some hate the fact that the team are pussy-footing around with certain people and letting matters linger instead of doing a "clean kill", so to speak. They can't satisfy everyone - They're human. Live with it.
FST has become a dictatorial state since 7th left
It's always been a dictatorial state. What VB, Paul & Jon did wasn't always what the whole community wanted - it was what was best for the board. In that reasoning, that was a dictatorship and it still applies.
you all screwed up, and when the members got annoyed and tryed finding a way around your screw ups, you banned them!
They screwed up in not getting the job done in full, in giving certain members another chance to piss about - A small punishment is usually given to offenders to get the message to them. Certain people didn't, so the punishments got more severe - Nothing new, check out any justice system in the world (apart from the UK's, anyway ;))
now tell me: just how do u plan on retrieving the reputation of the long deceased k-lite board back?
That reputation, that golden age, has long passed - The K-Lite board the old-timers knew is effectively dead, contributed by the shutdown of K-Lite K++ development by Sharman, too many ideas implemented in the board without any backup strategy, and members who can't take a hint to back off.
id love to hear an answer, as i guarantee you that none of them will be good.
Their job is to manage, oversee and help out on this board and its members - Not to act as the person you have a go at.
Just in case anyone didn't see it the first time Lamsey put it up...
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/riot.jpg
Here's my two cents:
In order to administer a board such as this one, rules must be established, and a uniformity of forum behavior expected from it's members.
There are difficulties both legal and practical with regard to things like links that go far beyond the mere publishing of same; some are absolutely harmless, others are incredibly malicious.
The need for uniform policy must triumph over the urge to publish, and discretion in such matters must necessarily reside with the administrators.
End of story.
As to the rules having to do with decorum:
While any effective rules are bound to be seen as arbitrary by some (the numbers/odds dictate this), the board cannot help but be aided by everyone being subject to the same set of rules.
Of course, it behooves the Mods and Admins to be painstaking in their application of these rules, but as I just said, the numbers dictate some will see certain actions as arbitrary, and there is no help for it.
I did read the new rules, and I remember seeing a caveat to the effect that certain conditions might be relaxed once everyone has had time to internalize things; it might be helpful if the Admins could give an idea of exactly what this might mean, but the opportunity doesn't easily present itself, as a loosing of such information would, of course, set off another spate of historical/hysterical recountings of past wrongs, or the perceptions of same.
I have been here for quite a while, and any of you who know me are aware that I am as capable as anyone else (I mean this very sincerely) of raising hackles and pissing people off (I am an accomplished provocateur), yet, while I have had numerous contacts with Mods and Admins over events, I have never been made to feel I even approached disciplinary action.
I have found, without fail, that respect given results in respect received, and I like it that way.
As onerous as the rules might seem just now, I would think that a good strategy for anyone with a risky question or urge might be to begin by PMing a Mod for an opinion; I'm sure they wouldn't mind, if others are willing to expend the effort.
Like the man says:
"You have to know how to carry on without getting carried away".
Enjoy the board, everyone, I know I will. :)
RPerry
04-29-2004, 01:26 PM
nice post j2k4 ;)
Illuminati
04-29-2004, 01:34 PM
Originally posted by j2k4@29 April 2004 - 14:20
I have found, without fail, that respect given results in respect received, and I like it that way.
As onerous as the rules might seem just now, I would think that a good strategy for anyone with a risky question or urge might be to begin by PMing a Mod for an opinion; I'm sure they wouldn't mind, if others are willing to expend the effort.
Like the man says:
"You have to know how to carry on without getting carried away".
Amen for all three points :D
Watch it, you guys, or I'll start, and no Mod on this board can stop me!!!
:lol: :lol: :lol:
atiVidia
04-29-2004, 05:02 PM
Originally posted by Illuminati@29 April 2004 - 07:05
the board is sh|t because of the mod team, not because of the members
If a considerable portion of the member list didn't bullshit around on the boards or any of its occasional projects, the mod team wouldn't be as large as it is as less members would've been needed as mods. If we don't like it, we only have ourselves to blame.
a Distributed Denial Of Service attack is not out of the question
the members find a way around the rules because the d@mned mods are trying to shut the public up. get real, that will never happen. and i kno where this will lead in the end
So why do you still have the right to post if that's the case? Why do I? Why does anyone else on this board still have the right?
Certain matters won't be tolerated on this board, end of story - If you don't like it, shed your tears outside the board or go with them. No-one forces anyone here, the choice to be here is optional - simple as that.
if a mass banning occurs, the site will go down with us :P
I frequent another five forums (including Jonno's forums) for different reasons. Anyone who I consider a valuable friend has my Trillian addresses and many I contact now & then. I'm covered for that situation and I believe that's the same for a few of the other regulars here - Cry us a river.
@ error403: only 500 members are actually still alive on this board, and as time passes, more of them are hating it.
Some hate the fact that they can't do everything that they want, some hate the fact that the team are pussy-footing around with certain people and letting matters linger instead of doing a "clean kill", so to speak. They can't satisfy everyone - They're human. Live with it.
FST has become a dictatorial state since 7th left
It's always been a dictatorial state. What VB, Paul & Jon did wasn't always what the whole community wanted - it was what was best for the board. In that reasoning, that was a dictatorship and it still applies.
you all screwed up, and when the members got annoyed and tryed finding a way around your screw ups, you banned them!
They screwed up in not getting the job done in full, in giving certain members another chance to piss about - A small punishment is usually given to offenders to get the message to them. Certain people didn't, so the punishments got more severe - Nothing new, check out any justice system in the world (apart from the UK's, anyway ;))
now tell me: just how do u plan on retrieving the reputation of the long deceased k-lite board back?
That reputation, that golden age, has long passed - The K-Lite board the old-timers knew is effectively dead, contributed by the shutdown of K-Lite K++ development by Sharman, too many ideas implemented in the board without any backup strategy, and members who can't take a hint to back off.
id love to hear an answer, as i guarantee you that none of them will be good.
Their job is to manage, oversee and help out on this board and its members - Not to act as the person you have a go at.
Just in case anyone didn't see it the first time Lamsey put it up...
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/riot.jpg
are you a mod here?
1: a considerable portion did not screw with the boards. it was the (exceedingly powerhungry) admins who felt that we <s>cant</s> should not be able to do anything anymore
2: we have the right because if they completely took it away then no one would come here anymore
3:whats that supposed to mean?
4:its not that we cant do everything, its that we can barely do anything at all! the lounge is free-talk, and thus we should be able to discuss the [banning] of another member without it being closed :)
5:not when i joined back in december. back then we were actually able to do things such as post links in our sigs. i dont see why its not allowed for us to have links to the kltools site for instance. this is stupidity on the admins and the mods part.
6: the public follows the rules when the rules are fair and in place due to necessity. rules such as "breaking a rule on purpose is against the rules" are retarded. if this rule is up for members, it WILL be in effect for FST mods and admins and forum stars (sorry but ur title doesnt protect u here lamsey :P)
by the way: taking people out of Iraq and Afghanistan for "conspiring against the USA" and throwing them into a rotten-as-hell detention facility is what the US, and the internatl govt if up to... (w/o proof, may i add. they are doing it based on what they look like) that is (1, racist. 2. giving others Out of boundaries a harsher punishment, 3. just plain stupid.)
moderation sequences and bans are now being given out w/o warning (or a warning jumps to a ban for something as silly as posting a link to another forun), and as such the board must be held accountable.
7:no the reputation died upon the disappearance of Marc.
8:their job as of now is to fix their act and clean the rules of senseless bullsh|t.
9: it is indeed a <s>semi-benevolent</s> dictatorship :P
muchspl2
04-29-2004, 05:23 PM
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/deadhorse.gif
Originally posted by muchspl2@29 April 2004 - 18:23
http://filesharingtalk.com/sigs/deadhorse.gif
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Perfect
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by atiVidia+29 April 2004 - 13:02--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (atiVidia @ 29 April 2004 - 13:02)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Illuminati@29 April 2004 - 07:05
the board is sh|t because of the mod team, not because of the members
If a considerable portion of the member list didn't bullshit around on the boards or any of its occasional projects, the mod team wouldn't be as large as it is as less members would've been needed as mods. If we don't like it, we only have ourselves to blame.
a Distributed Denial Of Service attack is not out of the question
the members find a way around the rules because the d@mned mods are trying to shut the public up. get real, that will never happen. and i kno where this will lead in the end
So why do you still have the right to post if that's the case? Why do I? Why does anyone else on this board still have the right?
Certain matters won't be tolerated on this board, end of story - If you don't like it, shed your tears outside the board or go with them. No-one forces anyone here, the choice to be here is optional - simple as that.
if a mass banning occurs, the site will go down with us :P
I frequent another five forums (including Jonno's forums) for different reasons. Anyone who I consider a valuable friend has my Trillian addresses and many I contact now & then. I'm covered for that situation and I believe that's the same for a few of the other regulars here - Cry us a river.
@ error403: only 500 members are actually still alive on this board, and as time passes, more of them are hating it.
Some hate the fact that they can't do everything that they want, some hate the fact that the team are pussy-footing around with certain people and letting matters linger instead of doing a "clean kill", so to speak. They can't satisfy everyone - They're human. Live with it.
FST has become a dictatorial state since 7th left
It's always been a dictatorial state. What VB, Paul & Jon did wasn't always what the whole community wanted - it was what was best for the board. In that reasoning, that was a dictatorship and it still applies.
you all screwed up, and when the members got annoyed and tryed finding a way around your screw ups, you banned them!
They screwed up in not getting the job done in full, in giving certain members another chance to piss about - A small punishment is usually given to offenders to get the message to them. Certain people didn't, so the punishments got more severe - Nothing new, check out any justice system in the world (apart from the UK's, anyway ;))
now tell me: just how do u plan on retrieving the reputation of the long deceased k-lite board back?
That reputation, that golden age, has long passed - The K-Lite board the old-timers knew is effectively dead, contributed by the shutdown of K-Lite K++ development by Sharman, too many ideas implemented in the board without any backup strategy, and members who can't take a hint to back off.
id love to hear an answer, as i guarantee you that none of them will be good.
Their job is to manage, oversee and help out on this board and its members - Not to act as the person you have a go at.
Just in case anyone didn't see it the first time Lamsey put it up...
http://www.mcbriens.net/liam/img/riot.jpg
are you a mod here?
1: a considerable portion did not screw with the boards. it was the (exceedingly powerhungry) admins who felt that we <s>cant</s> should not be able to do anything anymore
2: we have the right because if they completely took it away then no one would come here anymore
3:whats that supposed to mean?
4:its not that we cant do everything, its that we can barely do anything at all! the lounge is free-talk, and thus we should be able to discuss the of another member without it being closed :)
5:not when i joined back in december. back then we were actually able to do things such as post links in our sigs. i dont see why its not allowed for us to have links to the kltools site for instance. this is stupidity on the admins and the mods part.
6: the public follows the rules when the rules are fair and in place due to necessity. rules such as "breaking a rule on purpose is against the rules" are retarded. if this rule is up for members, it WILL be in effect for FST mods and admins and forum stars (sorry but ur title doesnt protect u here lamsey :P)
by the way: taking people out of Iraq and Afghanistan for "conspiring against the USA" and throwing them into a rotten-as-hell detention facility is what the US, and the internatl govt if up to... (w/o proof, may i add. they are doing it based on what they look like) that is (1, racist. 2. giving others Out of boundaries a harsher punishment, 3. just plain stupid.)
moderation sequences and bans are now being given out w/o warning (or a warning jumps to a ban for something as silly as posting a link to another forun), and as such the board must be held accountable.
7:no the reputation died upon the disappearance of Marc.
8:their job as of now is to fix their act and clean the rules of senseless bullsh|t.
9: it is indeed a <s>semi-benevolent</s> dictatorship :P [/quote]
well said
@lamsey, the klitetools team you are refering too, were only asking people to go for more support to kltforums only for klite and overnet lite. all the bs you guys are talking about happened only in the klite section at which this forum has openly disowned and does not support. lets not forget that it was just two weeks ago that the whole klite section got jamed in to one.
you guys don't want to offer support for klite that is fine, at least don't be selfish and let the poor members get a different response other than " KLITE SUCKS USE SOMETHING ELSE"
its not like we were in evey section of the board telling people to go to kltforums. it was only for klite support which i might ad that aside from "use something else" is none existant :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
Filliz
04-29-2004, 06:22 PM
Originally posted by MUSLEMAN@29 April 2004 - 18:04
let the poor members get a different response other than " KLITE SUCKS USE SOMETHING ELSE"
its not like we were in evey section of the board telling people to go to kltforums. it was only for klite support which i might ad that aside from "use something else" is none existant :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
Yep,you got a point there.
Been reading through some posts in the fasttrack section and i saw a lot of replies like "k-lite good for nothin',use something else". or "the only good thing to use k-lite for is porn",...Obviously the people that say this don't know how to use it in a proper way.Or they choose to use a different p2p(wich i have no problem with)But if someone asks for help about k-lite,at least help him with looking or giving a solution to that problem other then refering him to a different proggy.
If they're desperate to use something else,they will.
And i have to agree with the fact that the so called "spamming and excesive advertising" for klt only happened in the fasttrack section on this board.
I think the mods made their point about this issue,so at least allow the links back in the sigs.
Entity101
04-29-2004, 06:24 PM
The majority of people wanted the KL sections merged and moved to filesharing. And there is nothing wrong with that, since 99% of all topics are problems/questions anyway. I have yet to see you give a valid argument why the merge is a bad thing. People can still ask the same questions or get support.
It's BS to point to another forum for klite support. You can give the same support here. And if not, why do you come here I ask?
People say KL sucks? Well, you posted this:
to be honest with you should not even use the theater for viewing, kazaa theater is buggy, use your own player
But besides that, you are generalisatizing. Some people say "KL sucks" and now suddenly WE are always saying "KL sucks".
The general opinion here is that there are other better networks out there. eMule, SoulSeek, BitTorrent, etc.
sharedholder
04-29-2004, 06:28 PM
:lol: :lol: I rememmber a old reply posted by '' PAUL '' the admin few days after SHARMAN letter :
Kazaa Lite sucks, use eMule cause its better .
MUSLEMAN
04-29-2004, 06:29 PM
no its not the generall openion its your openion and i come here to help the members who need help for klite so they can get something other then "klite sucks".
as for my quote there incase you want me to break in down for if you can see it for your self.
ITS REFERING TO THE PLAYER OF KAZAA NOT THE KLITE ITSELF :frusty: :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
you want to talk bs, let talk about how you guys can't scan 120 members sigs in the past week :frusty: that is all we have at the most at a time. not to mention that again the other member's name in question have benn brought up over and over again, even in this thread now :frusty: :frusty: :frusty:
and its kinda difficault to give support when there are other morans saying "klite sucks"
Wizard_Mon1
04-29-2004, 06:35 PM
Muscle Man you have a lot of respect from many members here for helping so many of us. I think the problem here is not the link to your site or the nature of it's content rather that it is constantly advertised. I think that any who advertise like you do with kltools would get the same treatment. I am a member there and i see its benefits however, i can also see the problem here which is advertising. For you much of the help you can give to users is already available at kltools so it makes sence to mention it to save yourself repeating things again and again. If the mod team don't like that then it is theirs not to like even if it means losing alot klite help and support.
Why, for example, can't their be an affiliation between the two sites? This solution could solve many problems.
I don't think the mod team is the issue here. I think a few people have built up alot of resentment due to the constant changing of the board, from one owner, name, layout to another. I'm sure the mods do there up most to keep this place as user friendly as possible and i see them do there job well with maybe a few hiccups every now and again, but that, in the mighty words of Inews, is just human.
All the worlds on this forum have a mod in charge why doesn't MM become incharge of the klite section, just an idea.
Finding a solution for the problem is the issue here not highlighting the issue again and again.
sharedholder
04-29-2004, 06:40 PM
Wizard_Mon1 the word '' affiliation '' doesn't exist on klboard, God and the mods know that i tried in the past when i used to have