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  #11 Old 02-09-2010, 03:10 AM
 
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1. What do you use now adays then?

2. There are bad people where every you go, although I have no idea what kind of stuff you are seeing in the report section that deters you from BT.

3. Its the fastest method of filesharing and pretty underground on most sites.
1. I use newsgroups and rapidshare. bt in less than 5% of my needs.

2. FST reflects the good and the bad in bt. Though it's a forum not only for BT, 90%+ of the reports are bt related.
Everything circles around an unspoken economy. The "donations" for an invite; trading sites because some are harder to get into than others (basic economical principle); invites being sold left and right (many times to help pay an invite for an harder to get into site); people scamming each other and trading for the sole purpose of curiosity; most sites being ran by kids who have total disrespect for individual's privacy (see the infamous BT general thread); power hungry kids who use sites just for bragging rights, making them as bad as the traders they so much hate; forums about bt which are private (forum and private in the same sentence ) and where invites are pushed around like candy, with the trackers knowledge; pseudo-leet communities who think they run bt because the members are selected and have to follow rules of conduit everywhere, so they won't ruin everyone else's chances to join those same rare trackers; the seedbox business which thrives because everyone wants to achieve those high ranks in certain communities which will lead them to think they are good members and then can apply for even more sites (or trade those invites they get along the road); the amount of ass kissers who declared themselves anti-traders because it was a cool trend, when in the end all they want is to please some staffers who are then supposed to "trust" them; did I already mention the staff wars among trackers; users trying to catch other users trading just to show off so they can get invited somewhere else, and so on.

3. No it isn't. Newsgroups own it anytime, same happens with rapidshare accounts (though these can sometimes depend on the peering).
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  BitTorrent   -   #12 Old 02-09-2010, 03:21 AM
 
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I thought you were like 100% BT man lol, sort of just blew my mind.

I agree with all the points you have listed in #2, as I have experienced it all just by being in the general Bt section for over 3 months.
I never used newsgroups ever so I can't compare, but I know torrents are alot faster than rapidshare for me.

I myself dislike BT when tracker staff is immature or power hungry. Especially when they are so full of themselves they forget why they initially made the site... to share files.
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  BitTorrent   -   #13 Old 02-09-2010, 03:36 AM
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1. What do you use now adays then?

2. There are bad people where every you go, although I have no idea what kind of stuff you are seeing in the report section that deters you from BT.

3. Its the fastest method of filesharing and pretty underground on most sites.

3. No it isn't. Newsgroups own it anytime, same happens with rapidshare accounts (though these can sometimes depend on the peering).
Don't know what BT sites you are on but newsgroups won't max out a gbit connection, a good BT site will. Not to mention newsgroups pretimes are generally slower than a fast BT tracker as well.
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  BitTorrent   -   #14 Old 02-09-2010, 03:41 AM
 
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I thought you were like 100% BT man lol, sort of just blew my mind.

I agree with all the points you have listed in #2, as I have experienced it all just by being in the general Bt section for over 3 months.
I never used newsgroups ever so I can't compare, but I know torrents are alot faster than rapidshare for me.
I'm not detached of bt at all. I just see it from a different perspective. One that doesn't please many of those who I have mentioned at #2, which represent 90% of the bt population I've met.
I still try my best to make FST (and therefore, the bt community which communicates with this place) a forum where some can actually learn something. It's like fighting with windmills at times, but it's a responsibility of anyone who cares.

That doesn't mean I use that protocol too often. I was dumb enough to have rented seedboxes in the past and donated to sites who were not worthy. I spent my fair amount of time involved deep in that "bt economy".
I just took a breath and thought: what the fuck is this? Is this any worth? My time and my money? No.

FST on the other hand, serves a different purpose. I "donate" my time to this place, and it's well worth it. This forum made me laugh more times than I can remember. It's pure entertainment being a member here.

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Don't know what BT sites you are on but newsgroups won't max out a gbit connection, a good BT site will. Not to mention newsgroups pretimes are generally slower than a fast BT tracker as well.
Do you have a home gigabit connection? I thought so...
Try downloading any .torrent over a couple months old and then compare.
I'm sure any file I download from newsgroups will maximize my home line. With bt that doesn't happen. Therefore, as a end user, newsgroups is way faster than bt. Simple logic. Everything else are bt economics which are ridiculous.
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  BitTorrent   -   #15 Old 02-09-2010, 04:26 AM
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newsgroups are inferior to BT....

BT wont stop, and you that dont want to "donate" your time and money in BT and instead waste your time with newsgroups will regret it in time to come.

Not everybody is sucked up in this so called "dark BT economy" well it is if you are part of it yourself, there will always be users/admins etc.. with bad intentions.... But the good or shall is say "normal" people will always outway the bad... If you emerge yourself in the bad parts of BT then too bad for you because your ruining it for yourself...

BT is great, all the people ive met are really cool down-to-earth people.

There is always a market for something, if there is a demand there will be a supplier, when and if isp's start blocking BT then a new one will emerge that doesnt...

BT wont die it will get stronger as time goes on.
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  BitTorrent   -   #16 Old 02-09-2010, 05:45 AM
 
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newsgroups are inferior to BT....
keep talking trash .. you can only say one thing is inferior after making a comparision and i dont see you doing that .. r we supposed to believe it just cuz u say so?
Your title is quite a relevant precursor to your posts i say
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newsgroups are inferior to BT....

BT wont stop, and you that dont want to "donate" your time and money in BT and instead waste your time with newsgroups will regret it in time to come.

Not everybody is sucked up in this so called "dark BT economy" well it is if you are part of it yourself, there will always be users/admins etc.. with bad intentions.... But the good or shall is say "normal" people will always outway the bad... If you emerge yourself in the bad parts of BT then too bad for you because your ruining it for yourself...

BT is great, all the people ive met are really cool down-to-earth people.

There is always a market for something, if there is a demand there will be a supplier, when and if isp's start blocking BT then a new one will emerge that doesnt...

BT wont die it will get stronger as time goes on.
BT fanboi?

This reminds me of the old Sega-Nintendo wars (allthough I was very young I read about them later).
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  BitTorrent   -   #18 Old 02-09-2010, 06:04 AM
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.. r we supposed to believe it just cuz u say so?
First of all who is "we"...

Anyways.., you or "yall" can believe what i say if you like. , im just trying to figure out how I could make somebody "believe" that BT is superior to newgroups as if such a thing can be a fact, it is my opinion...

newsgroup fanboi?


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BT fanboi?
You can say that...

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  BitTorrent   -   #19 Old 02-09-2010, 06:24 AM
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2. FST reflects the good and the bad in bt. <...>
Great post. As one man said, this forum is the only true representation of BT community, and this community is full of shit. BT is not only being destroyed by outside (ISP caps and limits, courts, etc), but from inside too, by it's own community. IDK how it's gonna last, nobody knows, but the fact is that BT as we see it nowadays is diyng steadily. What will be next? Maybe BT will reorganize, maybe newsgroups will take its place... We'll see.
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  BitTorrent   -   #20 Old 02-09-2010, 06:47 AM
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Great post. As one man said, this forum is the only true representation of BT community, and this community is full of shit.
Im sorry, but i can not For the life of me figure out how this forum is a dead on representation of BT as a whole?...

And the reference to BT being full of shit??
Where do you guys get this??
I dont get this AT ALL, my experience in BT.
Ofc if have came ocross my share of scammers/cheaters etc...
But thats only natural in any group of anything there will be a bad apple...

If its so full of shit why are you even posting a BT thread??


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but the fact is that BT as we see it nowadays is diyng steadily.
Orly? I see it getting stronger all the time, anything thrown at BT, BT surpasses, for example two prominent trackers died around the same time, and what happened??

Trackers around the net welcomed them with open arms...
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