'Don't drop out and drive '
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: peat moss
Thought this was off the wall ,can remember being 16 and having to drop out of school to help support the family . I think its mean spirited but time will tell .
Link :http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=74f8452b-5faf-4a93-b533-bc1e4e9f6b4d&k=97517
Posted by: JPaul
Good idea, well done Canadia.
Posted by: DanB
I left school at 16 and I can't drive :(
Posted by: peat moss
Good idea, well done Canadia.
Do you really mean that JP ? You can vote , drink (some countries ) and join the army @ 18 . But can't drive ? Seems rather drastic .
I apoligise for not putting the link in the thread properly by the way . :D
TORONTO - Ontario high school students who apply for a driver's licence will be forced to show proof they are attending school as part of proposed legislation raising the provincial dropout age to 18.
Posted by: Everose
Peat, I noticed that it excluded those that have jobs with 'learning components.' I have to wonder who is going to be the judge of which jobs contain learning components.
Posted by: peat moss
@ Rose or a farming community ? The little buggers are driving tractors at 7 or 8 ? But nice to see a womens perspective , I missed that learning componets bit by the way sorry . :blushing:
Posted by: MagicNakor
There are "work-learn" programs in Canada, and it is also possible to begin your trade apprenticeships in a similiar manner. I believe that would be what they refer to with "learning components."
:shuriken:
Posted by: Mr JP Fugley
Good idea, well done Canadia.
Do you really mean that JP ? You can vote , drink (some countries ) and join the army @ 18 . But can't drive ? Seems rather drastic .
I apoligise for not putting the link in the thread properly by the way . :D
TORONTO - Ontario high school students who apply for a driver's licence will be forced to show proof they are attending school as part of proposed legislation raising the provincial dropout age to 18.
Sorry must have mis-read, I thought 18 year olds could get the licence and it was 16-17 year olds who would be effected.
When can you get a licence without an "educational component".
Posted by: peat moss
Guys and girls , I read a follow up to this in the local paper ,I thought was funny .
Three examples of High school drop outs Henry Ford , (he knew cars !) Richard Bransten the Mega store guy , and Thomis Edison . Made me think :) in all honesty I have a young daughter (15) having trouble in school , and would do anything to keep her on the straight and narrow so will use this to an unfair advantage .
Posted by: JPaul
Henry Ford was a nazi
If you mean Richard Branson he went to Stowe, a famous English Public School (high fees etc), ergo his folks had a few quid to help him set up his first business (Virgin). He certainly didn't leave it at 16. If you mean someone else, my bad.
Don't know who the other chap is.
Posted by: GepperRankins
nice one canada. make it harder for the kids who will struggle to find jobs :thumbsup:
Posted by: Mr JP Fugley
nice one canada. make it harder for the kids who will struggle to find jobs :thumbsup:
just the ones who leave school early and don't get an apprenticeship.
Posted by: j2k4
Henry Ford was a nazi
And this led him to quit school? :huh:
Posted by: Mr JP Fugley
Henry Ford was a nazi
And this led him to quit school? :huh:
what makes you think that, i'd be very surprised if that was the case.
Posted by: GepperRankins
nice one canada. make it harder for the kids who will struggle to find jobs :thumbsup:
just the ones who leave school early and don't get an apprenticeship.
agreed
Posted by: j2k4
Henry Ford was a nazi
Many others were taken in by Hitler; Charles Lindbergh and T.J. Watson, Sr. come to mind.
Reprehensible as Henry Ford's personal views may have been, he was not a Nazi.
Back on topic, now. ;)
Posted by: Mr JP Fugley
Henry Ford was a nazi
Many others were taken in by Hitler; Charles Lindbergh and T.J. Watson, Sr. come to mind.
Reprehensible as Henry Ford's personal views may have been, he was not a Nazi.
so the anti-semitic publications, the substantial financial support for the nazi party and the medal he received from them (the highest available to a foreigner) are all to be ignored then.
i think not mon ami. he may not actually have been a card carrying member ....but then
Posted by: j2k4
Many others were taken in by Hitler; Charles Lindbergh and T.J. Watson, Sr. come to mind.
Reprehensible as Henry Ford's personal views may have been, he was not a Nazi.
so the anti-semitic publications, the substantial financial support for the nazi party and the medal he received from them (the highest available to a foreigner) are all to be ignored then.
i think not mon ami. he may not actually have been a card carrying member ....but then
Ah, I see.
Much as our stateside Democrats bought into the idea of Saddam's WMD.
I see your point. :P
Posted by: JPaul
so the anti-semitic publications, the substantial financial support for the nazi party and the medal he received from them (the highest available to a foreigner) are all to be ignored then.
i think not mon ami. he may not actually have been a card carrying member ....but then
Ah, I see.
Much as our stateside Democrats bought into the idea of Saddam's WMD.
I see your point. :P
Yeah, the one put forward by your Republican Government.
Bottom Line, Henry Ford, the great American Industrialist published anti-semitic writings and was a a substantial supporter (probably the biggest overseas one) of the rise of the nazi party. For which they decorated him.
Charles Lindbergh, the great American Hero rallied people to support the nazi party and is thought by many to have recruited many others to their "cause".
No wonder you didn't join in with WWII, you were too feckin embarrased.
Didn't Ford supply vehicles to the nazi's
Ford was also active in Nazi Germany's prewar preparations. In 1938, for instance, it opened a truck assembly plant in Berlin whose "real purpose," according to U.S. Army Intelligence, was producing "troop transport-type" vehicles for the Wehrmacht. That year Ford's chief executive received the Nazi German Eagle (first class)....
The outbreak of war in September 1939 resulted inevitably in the full conversion by GM and Ford of their Axis plants to the production of military aircraft and trucks.... On the ground, GM and Ford subsidiaries built nearly 90 percent of the armored "mule" 3-ton half-trucks and more than 70 percent of the Reich's medium and heavy-duty trucks. These vehicles, according to American intelligence reports, served as "the backbone of the German Army transportation system."....
After the cessation of hostilities, GM and Ford demanded reparations from the U.S. Government for wartime damages sustained by their Axis facilities as a result of Allied bombing... Ford received a little less than $1 million, primarily as a result of damages sustained by its military truck complex at Cologne...
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=4368
Posted by: j2k4
You are right on all counts; he was, in fact, so enthusiastic about the Nazi cause he discomfited Herr Hitler mightily by flooding the German roadways with his automobiles.
This spurred Hitler to enlist F. Porsche to develop his Volkswagon.
Still doesn't make him a Nazi, sorry.
Hitler himself was a poor excuse for a Nazi, being Jewish and all-he was Schickelgruber/Salemon specie, as I recall.
Posted by: JPaul
You are right on all counts; he was, in fact, so enthusiastic about the Nazi cause he discomfited Herr Hitler mightily by flooding the German roadways with his automobiles.
This spurred Hitler to enlist F. Porsche to develop his Volkswagon.
Still doesn't make him a Nazi, sorry.
Hitler himself was a poor excuse for a Nazi, being Jewish and all-he was Schickelgruber/Salemon specie, as I recall.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck you must begin to suspect it is some species of aquatic fowl.
He was a feckin nazi, whether he ever joined the party or not.
Posted by: j2k4
You are right on all counts; he was, in fact, so enthusiastic about the Nazi cause he discomfited Herr Hitler mightily by flooding the German roadways with his automobiles.
This spurred Hitler to enlist F. Porsche to develop his Volkswagon.
Still doesn't make him a Nazi, sorry.
Hitler himself was a poor excuse for a Nazi, being Jewish and all-he was Schickelgruber/Salemon specie, as I recall.
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck you must begin to suspect it is some species of aquatic fowl.
He was a feckin nazi, whether he ever joined the party or not.
Pffft.
I have a cat that quacks like a duck; if pressed, I can quack like a duck myself.
I'd bet I could teach you to do it inside 30 seconds.
We may need manker's services here...
Posted by: JPaul
If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck you must begin to suspect it is some species of aquatic fowl.
He was a feckin nazi, whether he ever joined the party or not.
if pressed, I can quack like a duck myself.
Which part would one need to press to achieve this duckly curmudgeon.
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/test/duk.jpg
Posted by: j2k4
if pressed, I can quack like a duck myself.
Which part would one need to press to achieve this duckly curmudgeon.
http://www.angelfire.com/nj3/test/duk.jpg
The duckly curmudgeon button, obviously.
It is clearly labeled. ;)
Posted by: Biggles
In the 1920s and 1930s a great many people were extremely sympathetic towards Franco, Mussolini and Hitler and the other rather totalitarian right wing leaders of the time (ie the Romanian royal family - not to mention members of our own royal family). Being a Fascist pre 1939 was not considered an insult by those leaned in that direction.
Anti-semeticism was rife and in Europe and the US. Prejudice and discrimination were commonplace. Groucho Marx passed comment to this effect in referring to his difficulty in joining his local golf club although lesser lights in the Jewish community suffered far more degrading prejudice.
During this period, eugenics societies were unembarrassed about discussing improving the gene pool and in a number of US states criminals (often black) were sterilised as a matter of course.
It was only after the horrors of the Nazi regime were revealed in the late 40s that everyone began to (rather sharpishly) distance themselves from such points of view and personal histories were re-written.
Posted by: j2k4
In the 1920s and 1930s a great many people were extremely sympathetic towards Franco, Mussolini and Hitler and the other rather totalitarian right wing leaders of the time (ie the Romanian royal family - not to mention members of our own royal family). Being a Fascist pre 1939 was not considered an insult by those leaned in that direction.
Anti-semeticism was rife and in Europe and the US. Prejudice and discrimination were commonplace. Groucho Marx passed comment to this effect in referring to his difficulty in joining his local golf club although lesser lights in the Jewish community suffered far more degrading prejudice.
During this period, eugenics societies were unembarrassed about discussing improving the gene pool and in a number of US states criminals (often black) were sterilised as a matter of course.
It was only after the horrors of the Nazi regime were revealed in the late 40s that everyone began to (rather sharpishly) distance themselves from such points of view and personal histories were re-written.
So there. :snooty:
Posted by: billy boy
how do you people manage to turn a topic about not being able to leave school and drive into a discussion about whether or not Henry Ford was a nazi :lol:
Posted by: Biggles
Although we may make it look simple it is in fact due to years of hard work and practice.
Posted by: j2k4
Although we may make it look simple it is in fact due to years of hard work and practice.
JP and I are the forum's foremost practitioners of the various O.T. arts. :D
We've had to refine our talents for use in The Drawing Room, otherwise the mods would give us the toss, you see.
Posted by: JPaul
how do you people manage to turn a topic about not being able to leave school and drive into a discussion about whether or not Henry Ford was a nazi :lol:
The chap who started the thread mentioned that Mr Ford had left school early and had still turned out OK.
I thought it worthy of mention that he (Ford, not Moss) was an anti semite who published pamphlets supporting his view, a financial / ideological supporter of the nazi party, a war profiteer and a generally all round bad egg.
j2 just talked pish trying to defend the actions of a great American capitalist hero, as is his wont.
The rest, as they say, is chmistry.
Posted by: j2k4
how do you people manage to turn a topic about not being able to leave school and drive into a discussion about whether or not Henry Ford was a nazi :lol:
I thought it worthy of mention that he (Ford, not Moss) was an anti semite...
A worm unturned, but moving in a different direction, nonetheless...:D
Posted by: peat moss
I think thats that the beauty of this forum so mant twists and turns , always keeps me entertained tho . I usually start a topic from the heart , forget about it then come back for an update and think did I really say that ? :lol:
Posted by: JPaul
I think thats that the beauty of this forum so mant twists and turns , always keeps me entertained tho . I usually start a topic from the heart , forget about it then come back for an update and think did I really say that ? :lol:
You chaps from Canadia are weird.
Posted by: maebach
no is not/.
Posted by: MagicNakor
There isn't much else to do up here beside post random topics on message-boards.
Except moose, but we let the folks in the Yukon have them.
:shuriken:
Posted by: JPaul
There isn't much else to do up here beside post random topics on message-boards.
Except moose, but we let the folks in the Yukon have them.
:shuriken:
You "do" moose :sick:
Posted by: MagicNakor
Only so often as the Scots "do" sheep. ;)
:shuriken:
Posted by: JPaul
Only so often as the Scots "do" sheep. ;)
:shuriken:
So frequently, well.
Posted by: Biggles
Did someone say sheep? :naughty:
Posted by: maebach
:lol: I guess i'll get the moose