How can there be any justification for this utter nonsense!
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: Barbarossa
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/7112929.stm
A British schoolteacher has been arrested in Sudan accused of insulting Islam's Prophet, after she allowed her pupils to name a teddy bear Muhammad.
Well, my feelings are pretty apparent. There can't be. It's zealotry gone mad, but I'd like to see some of our Islamic members try and justify their religion with respect to this new story.
Also... a punishment of 40 lashes could be meted out :blink:
A bit barbaric, innit :unsure:
Posted by: AmpeD
yes, terrible. But they can run their country however they want.
Posted by: dave12
too bad thats not good she accepted that "she made an "innocent mistake" by letting the six and seven-year-olds choose the name." she should not get any lashes.
Posted by: Cheese
The children voted for the name, surely the children should be the ones punished?
Posted by: lynx
While I can't see any justification in this, I have absolutely no sympathy for her predicament.
The Foreign Office has been saying for ages that it isn't a safe place to go to, but wankers like this woman think they know better.
Now she'll be expecting the Foreign Office to put pressure on the Sudanese Government, who will no doubt want some concessions in the discussions about Darfur.
That in turn is likely to cost lives, so I as far as I'm concerned they should let her rot, and even encourage double punishment for being such a stupid twat.
Posted by: Barbarossa
Now she'll be expecting the Foreign Office to put pressure on the Sudanese Government, who will no doubt want some concessions in the discussions about Darfur.
I wouldn't be surprised if that wasn't really what this is all about :shutup:
Posted by: SAM
the sudan government is crazy to do such terrible and unjustified act against a teacher who did nothing wrong
this punishment is against islamic laws itself those people are fanatics and insane:angry:
Posted by: zoe68
I agree with Lynx, who in their right mind would go there?
Posted by: Barbarossa
Well, they've charged her. :dabs:
She's due to appear before a "court" today I think.
Posted by: psxcite
Come on. She is an educated woman who knows how serious they take their religion. She knew she was taking a risk in allowing the kids to give the bear that name. I'm not saying the punishment is justified in any way. But if I were teaching at a Catholic school and named the class snake after the Pope, well I would definately expect some backlash.
Posted by: Biggles
Come on. She is an educated woman who knows how serious they take their religion. She knew she was taking a risk in allowing the kids to give the bear that name. I'm not saying the punishment is justified in any way. But if I were teaching at a Catholic school and named the class snake after the Pope, well I would definately expect some backlash.
Benedict the Snake
sounds ok to me
So she got 15 days in jail of which 5 is already served and they don't think she will have to serve the full 15 days.
In other words she will be booted out the moment the visas are ready. Seems completely mad but I suppose the Judge had to balance loony local fundamentalist opinion with not making the country as a whole look stupid and so opted for a safe course.
Posted by: clocker
In other words she will be booted out the moment the visas are ready. Seems completely mad but I suppose the Judge had to balance loony local fundamentalist opinion with not making the country as a whole look stupid and so opted for a safe course.
A bit late for that, I suspect.
Posted by: bigboab
She got the worst possible sentence. She was ordered to Return to the U.K. I wonder if she will appeal?:lol:
Posted by: Barbarossa
Not just anywhere in the UK, but Liverpool! :lol:
Posted by: psxcite
Is the UK really that bad? I've always wanted to visit.
Posted by: Snee
Come on. She is an educated woman who knows how serious they take their religion. She knew she was taking a risk in allowing the kids to give the bear that name. I'm not saying the punishment is justified in any way. But if I were teaching at a Catholic school and named the class snake after the Pope, well I would definately expect some backlash.
Muhammad = snake :blink:
Posted by: benchez
Is the UK really that bad? I've always wanted to visit.
Especially Liverpool... :unsure:
She made a silly mistake and the law was silly too. But does that balance out :01:
Posted by: bigboab
Come on. She is an educated woman who knows how serious they take their religion. She knew she was taking a risk in allowing the kids to give the bear that name. I'm not saying the punishment is justified in any way. But if I were teaching at a Catholic school and named the class snake after the Pope, well I would definately expect some backlash.
Muhammad = snake :blink:
The Fatwah is in the post.:fear:
Posted by: jesper12345
About a year ago I read in the news about a islamic woman who got raped by I think it was like 10 men or something. And she got sentenced to 700 lashes for being in the same room as 10 unknown men. But that was in Saudiarabia (they have the Quran as lawbook I think). I donīt mean to offend anyone but islamic laws are just wrong.
Posted by: SAM
plz delete this post
Posted by: bigboab
About a year ago I read in the news about a islamic woman who got raped by I think it was like 10 men or something. And she got sentenced to 700 lashes for being in the same room as 10 unknown men. But that was in Saudiarabia (they have the Quran as lawbook I think). I donīt mean to offend anyone but islamic laws are just wrong.
Is this the story you are thinking of?
http://www.jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/018811.php
Posted by: Ronnie Coleman
Maybe, but we are not entitled to reform other countries (or cultures...) value system or law system. ;)
About a year ago I read in the news about a islamic woman who got raped by I think it was like 10 men or something. And she got sentenced to 700 lashes for being in the same room as 10 unknown men. But that was in Saudiarabia (they have the Quran as lawbook I think). I donīt mean to offend anyone but islamic laws are just wrong.
Posted by: bigboab
Maybe, but we are not entitled to reform other countries (or cultures...) value system or law system. ;)
About a year ago I read in the news about a islamic woman who got raped by I think it was like 10 men or something. And she got sentenced to 700 lashes for being in the same room as 10 unknown men. But that was in Saudiarabia (they have the Quran as lawbook I think). I donīt mean to offend anyone but islamic laws are just wrong.
We are not entitled to interfere with the domestic affairs of other countries. Are we, however, allowed to stand by and see thousands of people being killed by dictators?
I personally do not have an answer to that considering we have stood by and allowed Pol Pot, Amin, Stalin, Mugabe and a few others to kill thousands, in some cases millions.
Posted by: Rat Faced
There is no simple answer, but you can't interfere when you want and ignore others that are worse and fixed easier.
How many people wouldnt have starved to death if the money spend in Iraq had gone to African charities?
http://www.randomimage.us/28088.html
Posted by: j2k4
There is no simple answer, but you can't interfere when you want and ignore others that are worse and fixed easier.
How many people wouldnt have starved to death if the money spend in Iraq had gone to African charities?
http://www.randomimage.us/28088.html
Less than you think.
Would you like to talk about the United Nations at all. :whistling
What would be your priority, AIDS all over central/eastern/western/southern Africa, or the Sudanese genocide?
Hmmm? :whistling
Posted by: sidewild
Well, I do not want to pull this off topic too much; there are 6 Billion people on this Earth and there are going to be 9 billion by the '50s, I believe. Therefore, I don't think it really matters that much to other countries that people are dying. It only comes down to monetary and political reasons for getting involved--so don't kid yourself.
Edit: And scientists say that the Earth can only support about 1 to 2 Billion properly.
Posted by: bigboab
Well, I do not want to pull this off topic too much; there are 6 Billion people on this Earth and there are going to be 9 billion by the '50s, I believe. Therefore, I don't think it really matters that much to other countries that people are dying. It only comes down to monetary and political reasons for getting involved--so don't kid yourself.
Edit: And scientists say that the Earth can only support about 1 to 2 Billion properly.
Unless we start eating each other.:)
Posted by: Biggles
plz delete this post
Surely an explanation of why the post is wrong would be a more intelligent response. As far as I am aware this case did occur although the details (number of men, lashes etc., are exaggerated in that particular post). Nevertheless a raped woman is going to be lashed for breaking some law about being out without a male family member.
Deleting the truth is never a good option.
Posted by: sidewild
Unless we start eating each other.:)
My point exactly :D