is filesharingtalk classed as a 'warez' site?
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: djkemp1
hi all,
hope you can help. i heard that 'warez sites' get in bother quite a bit and individuals who use them can get in trouble.
i just wanted to know is this site or rlslog or vcdquality.com for example classed as 'warez sites' or are they safe to be on?
thanks for the help
Posted by: Skizo
FST is safe, unless you live in some country that won't even let you "chat" about file sharing.
There are no illegal or copyrighted files hosted on this site whatsoever.
Posted by: LaPistola
Short answer, no it is not a warez site.
Posted by: djkemp1
thanks for the info, what about other sites that share release info such as rlslog and vcdquality e.g? or are they just information sites too, sorry a little confused
Posted by: Sonnentier
I think Vcdq also only offers information about releases with no metadata or direct links.
With Rlslog I am a bit unsure. Sometimes the site offers Rapidshare links to samples, so they directly link to downloadable samples. A sample is part of the movie, I think you are also not allowed to distribute parts of a movie without authorization, but I'm not sure. Then also, rlslog often directly links to a Torrent on NewTorrents - not only automatically suggesting with which query to look for it, but directly deep linking to the specific torrent - I think this can also be seen as scienter action with the author directly involved in linking to a working torrent.
But release sites are of course not such a big target like the actual warez sites..
Posted by: djkemp1
ah i see, yeah but then FST also links directly to torrents and nzb's so surely that would be saying that this site also acts the same as rlslog. can individuals get in trouble for visiting these 2 sites for example?
Posted by: Skizo
FST hosts NZBs, yes. There is nothing illegal about that whatsoever.
That is completely different from hosting torrents which we do not do. Linking to such content is also against the rules and is expressly stated on the Rules page.
Doing so could bring FST into a different classification known as "third-party liability", which is something we do not want.
Rule 10 - Cracks/Keygens/Warez
Posting of direct download links to copyrighted material such as private ftp sites, serial numbers, warez sites and torrentlinks are prohibited. Posts directly or indirectly containing this information will be edited. Sig2dat quicklinks and hashes are NOT considered to be downloadable and will be allowed. Don't ask for torrents, cracks, serials or keygens to be posted, you are asking someone else to break this rule. Hacking/Cracking discussions are not allowed.
Posted by: djkemp1
what is the difference then between a torrent and a nzb? surely they both allow you to download the content?
Posted by: 100%
if "warez" is defined as "empty words".
then yes,
it is.
Posted by: djkemp1
"empty words"??
Posted by: tesco
what is the difference then between a torrent and a nzb? surely they both allow you to download the content?nzb is like a torrent, but it's used on for newsgroups, not for bittorrent.;)
Posted by: djkemp1
yes thats what im trying to say, a bit further up someone said that nzb's are fine but torrents aren't so why would nzb's not be classed as warez when torrents are?
Posted by: ideto
Providing URls is diferent of talking about who provide them.
No it isn't.
;)
Posted by: emperor_prem
thnx for the superb info
Posted by: tesco
yes thats what im trying to say, a bit further up someone said that nzb's are fine but torrents aren't so why would nzb's not be classed as warez when torrents are?
Not sure.
IMO, Torrents are fine.
The only reason we don't allow torrents here is because of all the heat on torrent sites. RIAA sueing and stuff.
They don't go after NZB sites (yet).;)
Posted by: yayyyyyy
Even in netherlands many sites has been seized and ppl invistegated just becouse there were ed2k links in them :)
http://torrentfreak.com/anti-piracy-outfit-threatens-shareconnector-071114/
so for that... everything depends on where you live... in many countries ed2k links are the same as torrent trackers and both can be seized... in others (canada? sweden?) both appears legit :)
http://filesharingtalk.com/vb3/f-ed2k-verifieds-15/
Posted by: djkemp1
so if thats the case then in the future this site could get in trouble for hosting nzb's. i think its a great site and can learn a lot from here so i would hate for it to ever go down because of nzb files that it hosts
Posted by: enoughfakefiles
Why does the lounge have to have all the spam posts?
/my bad i thought i was in the lounge :lol::lol:
Posted by: djkemp1
does anyone know if RLSLOG is a legit site? i don't want to visit sites that people could potentially get in trouble for for viewing. hope you can help and clear it up for me?
Posted by: kloot
does anyone know if RLSLOG is a legit site? i don't want to visit sites that people could potentially get in trouble for for viewing. hope you can help and clear it up for me?
You can't get into any trouble for viewing rlslog. If the owner of the site is a serious filesharer aswel as running that site, then the site is the last of his/her worries if s/he gets caught.
Posted by: djkemp1
ok so is it a legal site in the eyes of the law?
Posted by: Alexson777
ok so is it a legal site in the eyes of the law?
sure m8 its legal site
give it try to look around all sections and see yourself :naughty:
Posted by: djkemp1
how do u mean try and look round all sections?
Posted by: markupmaster
I wouldn't classify it as a warez site...
Posted by: saqib
this is bullshit , we r clean
Posted by: Alexson777
how do u mean try and look round all sections?
:yup::yup::yup::yup:
Posted by: djkemp1
no sorry i was talking of rlslog.net, is rlslog.net a legit and legal site?
Posted by: REALiSTiC
i could say that FST is not a Warez site.
because it doesn't host illegally files in it's servers.
Posted by: Daisy
no way !
Posted by: Tudor
i could say that FST is not a Warez site.
because it doesn't host illegally files in it's servers.
:yup:
Posted by: AvRiL LaViGnE
it isn't a warez site
Posted by: Ri0T
It's not a warez site. It's a site in which file sharing is discussed, just like it name says...
Posted by: djkemp1
thanks for the info guys. does anyone know about the site RLSLOG.NET. is that site a legitimate and legal site?
Posted by: Mr JP Fugley
I agree with Rossco. I see no intrinsic difference between NZB and Torrent files, from a technical viewpoint.
However I also agree with him in that it's currently torrent providers who are attracting all of the attention. Just look at what happened to Oink.
So from a purely pragmatic viewpoint it makes absolute sense for him to allow posting of NZB files but not torrent files. I'm sure he would agree that may change as the filesharing World changes.
Where I fundamentally disagree is this whole "invite trading" thing, as I think it leads to other people being put at risk. We have discussed that at some length elsewhere.
Posted by: grimms
I agree with Rossco. I see no intrinsic difference between NZB and Torrent files, from a technical viewpoint.
However I also agree with him in that it's currently torrent providers who are attracting all of the attention. Just look at what happened to Oink.
So from a purely pragmatic viewpoint it makes absolute sense for him to allow posting of NZB files but not torrent files. I'm sure he would agree that may change as the filesharing World changes.
Where I fundamentally disagree is this whole "invite trading" thing, as I think it leads to other people being put at risk. We have discussed that at some length elsewhere.
Definitely agree. You save yourself a lot of hassle, headaches and legal problems by just disallowing hosting and links to torrent files on FST. NZB files are ok due to it not being a problem or even a grey area (Yet)as far as file sharing. That could all change but probably won't (Not at least for the time being).
To the OP, all the concerns you have as far as getting into trouble with the said sites you mentioned= no trouble at all (Unless your country prohibits any activity related to file sharing or even talk relating to file sharing).
Meaning if your sites do not ban the mention or access to file sharing resources then it should be ok. Reading the opinions of others is not problematic or illegal, meaning it is not illegal(In most places).
Posted by: brotherdoobie
if "warez" is defined as "empty words".
then yes,
it is.
It isn't and I don't believe that as a whole - our words are empty.
Why do you, Zed?
-bd