Go back to XP or keep vista?
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: S!X
I've been running a non-legit vista ultimate release for sometime now and have been getting really fed up with them, not only cause they won't hold activation but it seems to get sluggish really fast after a reformat. Due to these factors, i'm contemplating wether to reformat with vista for the 100th time or partition my drive, throw all my files on there and reformat with XP (which I have a real key for). What do you think? :frusty::dry:
Posted by: tesco
There's vista releases that have the activation crap removed.
I've had one that i downloaded in march running on one computer since then with no activation issues ever popping up.
Not sure if it's gotten any updates from windows update though. Maybe those might fck something. Not a big issue though, just don't update.
Mine has been running a few weeks with a version i just downloaded, that has sp1 integrated, also no issues with activation...
I don't even put in a key. :unsure:
Posted by: S!X
There's vista releases that have the activation crap removed.
I've had one that i downloaded in march running on one computer since then with no activation issues ever popping up.
Not sure if it's gotten any updates from windows update though. Maybe those might fck something. Not a big issue though, just don't update.
Mine has been running a few weeks with a version i just downloaded, that has sp1 integrated, also no issues with activation...
I don't even put in a key. :unsure:
Probably one of the monthly "BIE" releases, I was thinking of just using one of those but I don't know.
Posted by: Ramus
been running vista since it came out haven't had any real big issues with it. but if you are a big gamer i recommend you stick with XP Pro.
Posted by: LuckIEE
vista sucks
Posted by: lostdemon
It's all about preference.
I don't like Vista so I would go back to XP
Posted by: mbucari1
I vote XO too.
As I type I'm installing XP on my new vista laptop. I like performance in my computers, but I'm kinda funny tat way.
Posted by: OTO
It's all about preference.
I don't like Vista so I would go back to XP
I agree with lostdemon.
Posted by: pifpaf
It's all about preference.
I don't like Vista so I would go back to XP
i agree. imo, i would use xp sp3.
Posted by: ricardogaia
send vista out and stay with xp.
Posted by: Cabalo
if u are planning on timetravelling to older OS' , then why not Win95 ?
Posted by: Chewie
vista sucks
Thank you so much for such an erudite and expansive post.
Muppet.
I vote XO too.
As I type I'm installing XP on my new vista laptop. I like performance in my computers, but I'm kinda funny tat way.
I'll say you're funny - performance preferred so laptop it is!
Posted by: Aramk
xp :p
Posted by: MaaxHimself
YES, thats exactly what I did.
Vista blows, if you dont want XP go linux.
Posted by: mbucari1
Thank you so much for such an erudite and expansive post.
Muppet.
I vote XO too.
As I type I'm installing XP on my new vista laptop. I like performance in my computers, but I'm kinda funny tat way.
I'll say you're funny - performance preferred so laptop it is!lol. I need a laptop for school, so I want it to be as fast as it can for as little as possible.
Posted by: drfreshstart
i prefer vista, because it is more faster and there isnt so big problems about programs, most of them working perfect
Posted by: Snee
Some super-useful people in this thread :ermm:
I've been running a non-legit vista ultimate release for sometime now and have been getting really fed up with them, not only cause they won't hold activation but it seems to get sluggish really fast after a reformat. Due to these factors, i'm contemplating wether to reformat with vista for the 100th time or partition my drive, throw all my files on there and reformat with XP (which I have a real key for). What do you think? :frusty::dry:
Depends on what you use your computer for and what your system is like, really.
Most of this should be stating the obvious, but just in case:
You'll probably get more speed out of XP Pro irregardless, even if it's the 32-bit version running on a 64-bit system.
What Vista has over XP is being able to use RAM over 4GB at all, and RAM over 3GB "well", and 64-bit support (I hear the driver support for XP 64 can be dodgy). Oh, and dx10 without resorting to something homemade to get it working.
It does seem to get sluggish pretty fast, not sure exactly why that is, yet. Maybe it needs a third party defragger and a separate partition for pagefiles, and getting rid of all tempfiles and other junk from updating at even intervals, and shutting a shitload of unnecessary stuff down, obviously.
Posted by: TheSickEmpire
Some super-useful people in this thread :ermm:
I've been running a non-legit vista ultimate release for sometime now and have been getting really fed up with them, not only cause they won't hold activation but it seems to get sluggish really fast after a reformat. Due to these factors, i'm contemplating wether to reformat with vista for the 100th time or partition my drive, throw all my files on there and reformat with XP (which I have a real key for). What do you think? :frusty::dry:
Depends on what you use your computer for and what your system is like, really.
Most of this should be stating the obvious, but just in case:
You'll probably get more speed out of XP Pro irregardless, even if it's the 32-bit version running on a 64-bit system.
What Vista has over XP is being able to use RAM over 4GB at all, and RAM over 3GB "well", and 64-bit support (I hear the driver support for XP 64 can be dodgy). Oh, and dx10 without resorting to something homemade to get it working.
It does seem to get sluggish pretty fast, not sure exactly why that is, yet. Maybe it needs a third party defragger and a separate partition for pagefiles, and getting rid of all tempfiles and other junk from updating at even intervals, and shutting a shitload of unnecessary stuff down, obviously.
I tossed in a 4GB flash drive for readyboost and completely removed my page file. Vista worked great.
Only reason I reverted back to XP was I needed to use some older programs that would never be updated to Vista. And, I gotta say, I miss Vista. Gonna be installing Vista Ultimate 64bit once I get my E7200 installed.
Vista + large music collection = sex.
Posted by: peat moss
I still prefer XP pro , I think it's faster on my systems . I'm using XP Indego 9 on one computer and Black XP 19 on the other .
I wonder if its the performance tweak that's included ?
PERFORMANCE TWEAK: CORE OS & KERNAL RUNNING IN RAM
Posted by: Bassi2o
xp ftw ;)
Posted by: Snee
I still prefer XP pro , I think it's faster on my systems . I'm using XP Indego 9 on one computer and Black XP 19 on the other .
I wonder if its the performance tweak that's included ?
PERFORMANCE TWEAK: CORE OS & KERNAL RUNNING IN RAM
I never liked those home-hacked things, preferring to know exactly what alterations I've made myself.
You can do that sort of thing on any xp, though. Lookie here: http://kadaitcha.cx/performance.html (scroll down a bit).
Found a few sites for tweaking Vista as well. Here's one: http://www.tweakvista.com/VistaPerformanceTweaks.aspx (not seen any reviews of it, and can't be arsed going through everything, so use at your own peril). And don't bother with the utility on there, just those articles.
Posted by: fOrUmAs
I have been is same situacion like u.
For few months i have used Vista and it was good (not many problems also) untill one day i started to ask my self why i really need vista for so much??
there was also some programs that still havent work with vista yet even tho vista was out abouth year and half...then i have started to get some errors with my video card bla bla so this was very good time to go back to my favorite OS ever XP,and just in than time(one or two week later) SP3 was released and i have no more reasone to go back vista..
now im on dual boot XP and Ubuntu, so next time when i will use new windows it will be windows 7..
even Bill Gates said vista is not that great
Posted by: peat moss
@ Snee , ya I knew some of those tricks from the first link and use them religiously, as for the other are they the same people as Tweak XP ?
I know it helps that I have a dual quad and 3 gb of ram but still tweak and use programs like Windowblinds and Styler to give my computer a personal feel .
Posted by: yevgeny
go back to xp install nod32 v3 and sygate firewall debug build. xp seems more prone to malware/advertising trojans. i find vista too annoying for that to be a reason to use it. although if the problem is with the activation; get one of the monthly releases of vista from the usual places. the activation patch works flawlessly.
Posted by: revolution
I don't like Vista so I would go back to XP
Posted by: Snee
@ Snee , ya I knew some of those tricks from the first link and use them religiously, as for the other are they the same people as Tweak XP ?
No idea, tbh.
Posted by: jeymacel
I strongly recommend you to use microsoft windows sp2 Student variant of ETH0
Posted by: nthpeter
xp is perfect for me, but i like the vista design, maybe windows 7 will be better than these.
Posted by: clocker
This poll is idiotic and some of the responses are even worse ("Vista sucks"...oh yeah, that's helpful).
First, basing your impressions on an admittedly "non-legit", cracked copy of the OS is silly...what did you expect?
Second, you didn't mention your PC specs or what you intend on doing with the machine, so how can anyone pretend to give pertinent advice?
Posted by: silent h3ro
I think if you have at least 3 or 4 gigs of memory then you won't see much of a difference between XP and Vista. Also, Vista is more stable than XP.
Posted by: cope123
send vista out and stay with xp!
Posted by: Snee
Second, you didn't mention your PC specs or what you intend on doing with the machine, so how can anyone pretend to give pertinent advice?
Hoi, I tried :dabs:
Posted by: rtxs
if you have a good pc use vista (special for games)
if you have a pc with low ram use xp
Posted by: silent h3ro
I just ordered a DX 10 card off eBay and now I'm going to finally make a permanent switch to Vista but I'm going to need more memory lol :(.
Posted by: peat moss
I just ordered a DX 10 card off eBay and now I'm going to finally make a permanent switch to Vista but I'm going to need more memory lol :(.
Well as we all know that' s what keeps driving the computer hardware industry , new , better stuff for gamers that only works with Vista . Not ! There's third party groups still trying to port DX 10 to XP with not very good results ..yet .
Its coming tho time will time . I'v yet to find a hard core gamer running Vista , at lest with most of the online games like Final Fantasy 12 or WOW .
Posted by: KennyX
Dual boot, keep both.
edit: wait a minute, this is not the BT forum, how did I get here?
Posted by: Technix
XP ofc
Posted by: silent h3ro
@ peat moss - I checked benchmarks on google first and I found this (http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,2845,2302495,00.asp) and this (http://www.dragonsteelmods.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=8528&Itemid=39) which inspired me a little to switch, and DX10. The difference in the benchmarks are not big enough to make me want to stick with XP.
Posted by: AuthorityC
what an unequivocal answer.
Posted by: mr. nails
if u are planning on timetravelling to older OS' , then why not Win95 ?
i vote this. if ur pc is so under hardwared then just go back to win95. vista runs great and i for one have NO problems with it.
Posted by: messiaah
yeaa vista suckss as of now till they do something abt it
Posted by: clocker
yeaa vista suckss as of now till they do something abt it
Can you list five reasons you think this is so?
Posted by: peat moss
yeaa vista suckss as of now till they do something abt it
Can you list five reasons you think this is so?
I can give you a couple , Final Fantasy 11 , and the annoying security pop ups I can never seem to get rid of . I found XP Pro faster on my system .
I'm D/L Vista 32bit Black Edition 2009 SP1 as I type , thought I'd try after my failed XP 64 experiment .
Quote :
This Operating system is purely designed from Genuine Vista Ultimate by Benjamin. It will be more comfortable, faster and reliable when compared to other vista operating systems. All the error which the user faced in vista ultimate are fixed and tweaked. New hot fixes, updates and the Vista SP1 package are integrated. All the dream scene packs are activated. The Dolby digital plugins are also integrated for more fun with musics. New windows sounds, New Gadgets, New Login screen, New Default theme and more…. You can install any hardware without any problem, all the hardware errors are fixed. Just install this Black Edition 2009 and start your work. No need of installing any 3rd party softwares by searching the CD’s or DVD’s. All the softwares which you need to run quickly after installing a OS are inside.
Posted by: clocker
Can you list five reasons you think this is so?
I can give you a couple , Final Fantasy 11 , and the annoying security pop ups I can never seem to get rid of .
Although I'm not familiar with the game, within five minutes Google turned up any number of workarounds/patches to enable FF11 in Vista.
Disabling UAC seems to remove the security popups...I haven't seen one in months.
Posted by: #Palestinian#
About "annoying security pop ups" u can disable it from control panel the go to accounts/users , from their choose ur acc , I think u should turn off the last option (I don't remember cause i deleted vista and re-installed win XP sp3 ).
I think ur problem will be solved after doing that. And by the way , windows vista is so much complex .
Posted by: peat moss
@ clocker , ya I tried a few patches . It was for a fellow member Redhead68,my workmate . We tried everything to no avail and she is so impatient . She formatted three times yesterday , Win XP 64 , Black XP and a clean XP pro w/sp2 . She thought the last one one worked best out of the box with new ATI drivers .
Hey what are you going to do , if a gamer you have to jump thru hoops . Luckly all I play is old card games or some Gamehouse puzzle type games .
@Palestian, yep tried that but after a win update it still bothered me . Good be I had a dodgey install disk .....
Posted by: Chewie
@ clocker , ya I tried a few patches . It was for a fellow member Redhead68,my workmate . We tried everything to no avail and she is so impatient . She formatted three times yesterday , Win XP 64 , Black XP and a clean XP pro w/sp2 . She thought the last one one worked best out of the box with new ATI drivers .
Hey what are you going to do , if a gamer you have to jump thru hoops . Luckly all I play is old card games or some Gamehouse puzzle type games .
@Palestian, yep tried that but after a win update it still bothered me . Good be I had a dodgey install disk .....
Hey peat, try the reg hacks in this attached rar.
UAC_off.reg and UAC_on.reg do what you'd expect and Uac_Notify_OFF.reg turns off only the notification bubble for UAC being off (so other notifications still work).
Posted by: peat moss
@ clocker , ya I tried a few patches . It was for a fellow member Redhead68,my workmate . We tried everything to no avail and she is so impatient . She formatted three times yesterday , Win XP 64 , Black XP and a clean XP pro w/sp2 . She thought the last one one worked best out of the box with new ATI drivers .
Hey what are you going to do , if a gamer you have to jump thru hoops . Luckly all I play is old card games or some Gamehouse puzzle type games .
@Palestian, yep tried that but after a win update it still bothered me . Good be I had a dodgey install disk .....
Hey peat, try the reg hacks in this attached rar.
UAC_off.reg and UAC_on.reg do what you'd expect and Uac_Notify_OFF.reg turns off only the notification bubble for UAC being off (so other notifications still work).
Ah thanks for your trouble friend that's awesome but just installed Win XP Black again . Still waiting to finish my Vista Black D/L so will save this . :fst:
Posted by: tesco
Peat all you need to do, and I've done this on every vista instalaltion i've ever done and it worked fine, is go into control panel -> user accounts -> and click disable user account control, then restart.
Posted by: whip22
my opinion, wait for windows 7; they say it's vista, just better speeds and stuff. XP runs all apps too so yea. Did you buy vista though? have you tried dual booting?
Posted by: silent h3ro
@ peat moss - What is Vista Black? I've heard of XP Black but I've never understood what that was either.
Posted by: seedman
I'm not sure what you're doing wrong, my Vista machines run fine.
Posted by: peat moss
@ peat moss - What is Vista Black? I've heard of XP Black but I've never understood what that was either.
Its a Tweaked or slip streamed Dvd that people make and share . Some are Windows XP Pro , Vista or Gamer Tweaked . Cracked no need to insert keys or fumble for driver disks and back up software cd's and best part unintended install .
Not for everyone as they may have out dated software or loaded with Malware and Trojan's . People just name like Black, Royal or Johnny's Disk . :D
I'm using Black XP 19 .Comes with a 4.6 gb bonus disk , Sp3 patches from June 08 on the disk . I just find them easy to use as I work on friends computers and find it faster .
Posted by: clocker
Cracked no need to insert keys or fumble for driver disks and back up software cd's and best part unintended install .
Isn't that the definition of a trojan?
Posted by: darkeyes
Vista Is too much better than xp
Posted by: Am0MuK
:naughty: Stay better on XP and you'll be Cool
Posted by: S!X
Little Update.
A little while after I started this thread, I installed the latest vista ultimate SP1 integrated release and just today I checked to see if it was still activated and it says that I have 2 days to do so. For some stupid reason these boot loaders that exist for vista don't wanna work for me, so I'm going back to my legit XP pro.Vista is nothing but a pain in the ass.
if u are planning on timetravelling to older OS' , then why not Win95 ?
i vote this. if ur pc is so under hardwared then just go back to win95. vista runs great and i for one have NO problems with it.
My comp is more then capable of running vista, but with 1GB of ram it's not worth it.
Posted by: clocker
My comp is more then capable of running vista, but with 1GB of ram it's not worth it.
No, it's not.
Vista needs 2GB min. and preferably, 4GB.
Posted by: dr jones
i have tried vista yet,but i heard it really bad,so go back to xp
Posted by: clocker
i have tried vista yet,but i heard it really bad,so go back to xp
You're kidding, right?
Posted by: Waiakea
most games and apps still use xp
Posted by: Chewie
i have tried vista yet,but i heard it really bad,so go back to xp
You're kidding, right?Who can tell? I'm not even sure it's English.
most games and apps still use xpIn what way do they use XP?
Posted by: lolfst
no need for vista IMO - no major improvements over XP
Posted by: ownzit
I didn't think i would like vista much as well.. but it seem to have grown on me.. not too bad.
Posted by: JenSenCO
i wont go to vista in the near future because xp suits just fine for me :)
Posted by: SubFlow
Ouch... I'm kinda late in this. Still, I've been using Vista since it first came out and it really has come a far way. Didn't seem like anything was working last year and now, pretty much everything works flawlessly. My recommendation is that you partition your hard drive. Run XP on one and Vista on the other. That's what I do... don't really use XP much but it makes me feel a little safer. =P
Posted by: clocker
i wont go to vista in the near future because xp suits just fine for me :)
Bet you said the same thing about ME...
Posted by: tejaspaiowns
Well I would always prefer XP , but that's just my opinion :)
Posted by: peat moss
I 'v tried a few different O/S in the last few months everything from Vista 32 , 64 bit , Ubuntu 8.04 and Win Pro 64 . Just trying to test my setup is all and found many good things from start up times to Security issues , gaming too .
I found that Xp Pro works best for me , I v got it tweaked looks like Vista and quite happy . Have tried Windows 7 Beta and look forward to it , Vista no not interested right now if ever . Keep in mind just my humble opinion .
Ah I know you guys and girls are getting sick of my pro Xp Pro posts but just warming up to tackle my Playstation 3 and Yellow Dog trials . That is just a neat idea , sure I'll fuck up something tho . :D
Posted by: haoran
send vista out and stay with xp.
me too:)
Posted by: Peanut
has down XP will already be the greatest ^^
Posted by: strjms72
Yes, I think the poll will be with XP, I would switch back to xp
Posted by: erickproi
Now the xp is very good then see that wave with vista
Posted by: clocker
Now the xp is very good then see that wave with vista
My thoughts exactly.
Posted by: Eargasm
Just switch to Ubuntu.
Posted by: respawn40
XP and Ubuntu > Vista
Posted by: silent h3ro
Vista is not as bad as everyone is saying it is. SP1 fixed most of its problems.
Posted by: niaz333
hello
thanks for your good job. I used in windows xp. This is great . It also work smoothly. I all time poll by xp. Because XP is the best.
thanks
Posted by: shutdk
Stick with XP if you want full perfomance. That's what I've done
Posted by: peat moss
Stick with XP if you want full perfomance. That's what I've done
I think that's the problem , we get bored and think there's something better out there . I keep coming back to XP Pro after trying a few different ones , wish Vista had some thing better to offer than memory allotment and Directx 10 tho .
I'm debating trying WinXP Borg 64 , just want to find an O/S that uses 64 bit and I could see a big improvement in multitasking other than showing my memory as 4 gb rather than 3.25 gb . I have over 8 gb of ddr2 ram just sitting here in a draw screaming to be used ....
I think that's my point I can't really see a better preforming o/s than XP for what I do . Simple browsing ,downloading , converting , burning movies and playing my card game at the same time . :lol:
Posted by: niks1101
I switched to Ubuntu recently and I'm really happy with it, been running it for about a month now and really do think this time it's ready for mass non uber techie users.
I've had a little Linux experience from a previous job and the last time I decided to switch was about 2003 and it just wasn't ready as a dedicated desktop replacement, too much faffing about and instability.
This time it's just about there, and the 3D effects are awesome ;)
Posted by: snakebite
I've been running a non-legit vista ultimate release for sometime now and have been getting really fed up with them, not only cause they won't hold activation but it seems to get sluggish really fast after a reformat. Due to these factors, i'm contemplating wether to reformat with vista for the 100th time or partition my drive, throw all my files on there and reformat with XP (which I have a real key for). What do you think? :frusty::dry:
Yep that would be the best idea ever to get rid of Vista and goto back to Windows Xp Pro Sp3 it rocks.....I just purchase a new Computer and told them to stick Vista where the Sun don't shine and give my Xp Pro it cost me a few extra dollars but it was worth it.
Posted by: Overlord
I love Vista, I could not imagine going back to XP at this point. The only non-legit releases people should use are BIE's.
Posted by: xxNARCOxx
If you can get a working Vista key, then stay with Vista IMO.