So I'm Gonna Get An Amd
(Click here to view the original thread with full colors/images)Posted by: Keikan
So i'm gonna get an amd, what should i do for cooling? I don't exactly got that much cash so i was thinking of getting like a thermaltake 9 socket a heatsink and just a regular case fan, is that good or bad?
Posted by: lynx
Thermaltake certainly have good cooling, but the fans tend to be a bit noisy when the temperature gets up.
Don't be fooled by the 17db at 1300rpm, that's only at 20C, and I've never seen a cpu running at that temp. I think 40-45C is much more likely, which would give a fan speed of about 4000rpm. Since max speed is 4800rpm, with 48db noise output (small jet engine?) you can expect the average noise output to be around 41db, and that is NOISY.
Shop around, find one that gives good cooling without blasting your eardrums.
Posted by: 3rd gen noob
if you get a retail cpu, you'll get a hsf included with it...whether it'll be up to the job is another matter
if you're buying a separate heatsink, you should be looking for a copper heatsink
Posted by: 3RA1N1AC
Originally posted by 3rd gen noob@27 September 2003 - 03:14
if you get a retail cpu, you'll get a hsf included with it...whether it'll be up to the job is another matter
the "stock" HSF that comes with retail Athlons is fine. maybe not the best, but it is definitely adequate. i get temperatures between 40C and 50C with it (combined with arctic silver thermal paste)-- not spectacular, but well within safe operating temperature.
prolly the only reason you'd need a better one is if you're trying to build a "quiet PC" or you intend to overclock the CPU.
Posted by: Amarjit
"AMD in a box" systems include the micro-processer as well as an approved fan.
Posted by: Somebody1234
The stock AMD coolers that you get in a retail box are ok. You also get a much longer warranty if you buy that vs. OEM.
If you want, you can make a stock AMD cooler very quiet too.
http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showto...1516&hl=adaptor (http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=31516&hl=adaptor)
Posted by: Keikan
I heard heatsinks that come with amd athlon xp's were not very good, so i decided to get a thermaltake 9 but how loud could it be? My computer is pretty loud right now, i think it's because of the case fan. I just want it not deepfrying when i'm playing a game or encoding mpegs and i have a budjet to stick to so thermaltake9 heatsink and it's copper. http://www.thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/v9.htm
"Smart and silent"
PS: How are you soppse to make that stock cooler thing? Looks complicated, I can't build anything.
Posted by: 3RA1N1AC
Originally posted by Keikan@27 September 2003 - 13:46
I heard heatsinks that come with amd athlon xp's were not very good, so i decided to get a thermaltake 9 but how loud could it be?
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PS: How are you soppse to make that stock cooler thing? Looks complicated, I can't build anything.
you heard wrong. the heatsink that comes with an athlon xp is fine.
the "stock cooler"/"stock heatsink" is the standard heatsink that comes with the CPU.
Posted by: Keikan
Originally posted by 3RA1N1AC+27 September 2003 - 15:03--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (3RA1N1AC @ 27 September 2003 - 15:03)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-Keikan@27 September 2003 - 13:46
I heard heatsinks that come with amd athlon xp's were not very good, so i decided to get a thermaltake 9 but how loud could it be?
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PS: How are you soppse to make that stock cooler thing? Looks complicated, I can't build anything.
you heard wrong. the heatsink that comes with an athlon xp is fine.
the "stock cooler"/"stock heatsink" is the standard heatsink that comes with the CPU. [/b][/quote]
Wouldn't it be better to get the thermal take anyways? Because i don't want my cpu deepfrying when playing a game...
Posted by: Somebody1234
Look at this thread: http://www.klboard.ath.cx/index.php?showtopic=69811
It's the one about system temps. Look at my post there and you tell me if the stock cooler is not good enough. Take into consideration that the fan is really quiet also.
PS: How are you soppse to make that stock cooler thing? Looks complicated, I can't build anything.
I thought that was the point of that thread. It shows how to make one of those 'Fan adaptors'. If you are unable to follow those instructions then I think you can find one that's already made. I'll let you do the research on how or where to find one.
Posted by: Keikan
I don't know how to cut sheet metal
Posted by: 3rd gen noob
Originally posted by Keikan@28 September 2003 - 01:15
I don't know how to cut sheet metal
jigsaw
Posted by: Somebody1234
Or tinsnips.
http://www.tenlinks.com/NEWS/PR/CADKEY/images/viewer_tinsnip_300.jpg
Use a jigsaw to do the final circle cut.
Posted by: Keikan
I can live with the noise, i just don't want it deepfrying when i'm playing a game or encoding mpegs
Posted by: 3RA1N1AC
Originally posted by Keikan@27 September 2003 - 14:07
Wouldn't it be better to get the thermal take anyways? Because i don't want my cpu deepfrying when playing a game...
it would be "better," but not necessary. your CPU is not gonna fry, either way, as long as you put the heatsink on correctly. i've had an old athlon regularly go over 60C with a really cheapo heatsink, and it still works great. the one that comes with athlons nowadays can keep it under 50C, so it's definitely not going to fry.
you don't even have to start worrying until the temperature goes over 70C. CPUs are able to tolerate very high temperatures.
Posted by: lynx
Remember that every 3db increase means twice as loud. My cooler is rated at 28db, at about 40db the thermaltake would be 16 times louder. My XP2400+ runs at 35C (39C under load). The 8cm fan runs at about 2400rpm, and the whole heatsink/fan assembly cost me £14 (about $22), it's an Akasa AK 824cu-BL (that means it's got a pretty blue light too), rated up to XP3000+. If you really want a variable speed fan, try the AK825 (rated up to XP3400+), fan noise 22-39db, although speed control is manual.
Posted by: Somebody1234
Originally posted by Keikan@28 September 2003 - 04:42
I can live with the noise, i just don't want it deepfrying when i'm playing a game or encoding mpegs
Can you tell me how you can "deepfry" a CPU at a temp of 45C ?
But, do as you like. I was just trying to best answer your first question.
So i'm gonna get an amd, what should i do for cooling? I don't exactly got that much cash
You wanted something inexpensive and good. Even the stock heatsink with the small 60mm fan cools fine. It's just a bit noisy.
Posted by: Neo 721
or you could consider one one of those cooler master Aero 7's which provide exelent cooling.