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Posted by: tracydani

I thought about putting this in the lounge but figured if the response is good, this would be headliner news.

I am with FC when it comes to thinking that we have the best programmers here at the forum.
I know that individually you all may not be able to do this but what are the chances that you guys could work together on a new p2p for the members of this forum to test?
You all have the inside track to what we want out of a p2p program and get constant feedback from the members here. You could, between you come up with the next thing in p2p.
Unless things change, eventually the heat is gonna get too much for our favorite program and we will need somethin new.
I know there are allready others out there, but you could take the best from each and give us the ultimate p2p experiance.

I would like to hear from each of you your ideas for the chances of this working. Do you think you could do this together? Would you be willing to try? Is this just a dream?

Thanks for your time :)

Edit: Thanks for moving this :)



Posted by: Ynhockey

Well, the programmers are definately good enough, but:

1) Many have put hours of work into Kazaa Lite and K++ and it's only natural for them to feel the need to continue with it and not start a new project

2) There's no need for a new P2P as K++ is always updated along with other utilities and is slowly reaching perfection with every new build/version.

So I don't think there's the need... maybe people will disagree though :unsure:



Posted by: zeos100

Ther is a few new p2p progs out:
Progact Fast track,
Xs client,
thes two look vary good maybe we can be a test Forum 4 one of them ??
Bicuz making a new p2p prog from nhating is vary vary hard plus trying to make it in a stage of program like kazaa who have a compny bhinde it with good programers how gate paid to make this program.



Posted by: tracydani

I know nothing of programming so I don't know how hard it would be.
But I was thinking that this could give the programmers here a great deal of freedom to concentrate on the things we all want instead of tryin to figure out how to make something work with anothers program.

I mean it seems obvious that kazaa knows we are here and work against the things these guys do. Look at how they blocked the pl cheat a while back with an update.
If they keep doing this with updates then these guys gotta go through the whole thing again. I am sure they can do this, but how long are you all gonna want to keep re-hacking the same things?
A new program could solve those problems and free you up for better things.

Again, I know nothing about this so it may be easier to keep re-hacking than to actually make it fresh?



Posted by: vivitron 15

I know nothing of programming so I don't know how hard it would be.

I am in pretty much the same boat, know nothing complex enough to do stg like this, but it does occur to me that, if a prog were written from scratch, then there'd be no way anyone could get sued, like they are trying to with sharman at the moment, cos noone would 'officially' have created it, thus we'd be onto the next generation of p2p.

don't particularly know if anyone wants to volunteer, but i'm sure someone out there would enjoy the challenge.



Posted by: Cl1mh4224rd

Originally posted by vivitron 15@30 January 2003 - 17:40
if a prog were written from scratch, then there'd be no way anyone could get sued, like they are trying to with sharman at the moment, cos noone would 'officially' have created it
I'm not understanding something here... Sued for what?



Posted by: vivitron 15

search through the forum..basically, the riaa is trying to stop sharman making the software, cos they say it's only purpose is to share copyright material which is illegal. (or stg like that)

but if a collaboration of 'anonymous' people were to create a new piece of software, then who would be ordered to stop making it? if people were in different countries it would become even more interesting.



Posted by: Benno

if someone would do this wouldnt we have to few sources?
i mean it takes a lot of time to build up a whole new network and fasttrack already have a lot of users :)



Posted by: Neuromancer

Hm. If a P2P client could be erected by more elaborate distinguished members of this board it would have to be able to connect to Fast Track. Othervise it wouldn't make sense because of too few sources.

That, having a clean Fast Track connectable client with (for example) Shareaza looks and functions that are already out (Kazaa is pretty outdated) would be (is) a dream. Nobody (even here) knows enough about Fast Track protocols to make such a client.

Please prove me wrong, I'd be happy to volunteer as a beta tester! ^_^



Posted by: jetje

Maybe you have to start thinkin'out of the box when you wanna create a new p2p network and forget the
Fasttrack protocols B) The problem is i'm not an programmer but sure wanna help thinkin' if someone dares to take up this challenge



Posted by: tracydani

I wouldn't be too worried about not enough users. Look at emule, the most I have seen on is about 70,000(I'm not on there too often yet).

I don't think it would take very long if a good program was put together. Between this forum and the other forum, we probably have a couple thousand active members, and with the people just passing through, that would get the word out.

How many people do you know who use p2p? And how many of them frequent this forum? I know about a dozen people who use p2p(those are just the people I have spoken to about it) and none of them frequent this or the other forum.

If we passed the program to friends and aquaintances the sources would grow pretty quickly(especially if we had a reputation for quality and few if any fakes).

Anyway, what do you programmers out there think of the idea? Would any of you consider the idea alone? How about as a small group?

Just curious what you think and if we could possibly expect a great new program in the future, or if we are just dreaming :)






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